(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[150]OT[3x60 byo-yomi]
GN[European Championship -- 3rd place game -- Shikshin (w) vs. Debarre (b)]PW[Ilja Shikshin]PB[Thomas Debarre ]WR[1p]BR[6d]DT[2015-08-02]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[Muttley [3k\]: Hi, how long until the games start?
NightShift [6d\]: according to schedule it should be 3 minutes
Muttley [3k\]: mmm
Muttley [3k\]: they don't run to schedule if the players don't turn up on time :)
Muttley [3k\]: OK, fan and shikshin are there
Muttley [3k\]: There's nothing up there :)
Muttley [3k\]: Thank you for relaying the final :)
Muttley [3k\]: OK, Ali has now turned up
NightShift [6d\]: start their clocks :) must punish impunctuality ^_^
NightShift [6d\]: hehe only 2mins30 in 3rd place playoff :)
Muttley [3k\]: Plot twist: Tomas Debarre is disguised as the game relayer for his game
]RE[W+Resign]
;B[qd]
;W[dp]
;B[pq]
;W[dc]
;B[de]
;W[cg]
;B[cc]
;W[gc]
;B[fd]C[Korea4K [1d\]: c16
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;W[eb]
;B[cf]
;W[dg]
;B[cb]
;W[jc]C[glasszee [3k\]: i knew it was a matter of time until this pincer joseki got even more convoluted
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;B[oc]
;W[po]C[OoohShiny [10k\]: Ilja o/ gogo
PlaySlow [11k\]: Ilja is black right?
OoohShiny [10k\]: ? O_o
Noemis [3d\]: Not that KGS info are saying
PlaySlow [11k\]: Which one is Ilja:) cant see it from mobile:(
OoohShiny [10k\]: white
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;B[qo]
;W[pp]
;B[qp]
;W[oq]
;B[qn]
;W[pr]
;B[qq]
;W[np]C[PlaySlow [11k\]: Thanks oooh;)
OoohShiny [10k\]: no problem, we ddks have to stick together in this cruel world o/
Dalan [1d\]: yes we do.
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;B[fq]C[Hikaru123 [1k\]: this is the losers final?
gogonuts [4d\]: y
Zachmura [1d\]: it is also called bronze medal game
]
;W[iq]
;B[dn]
;W[fp]
;B[cq]
;W[cp]
;B[gp]
;W[fo]
;B[dq]
;W[gq]
;B[eq]
;W[ep]
;B[gr]
;W[hq]
;B[dj]C[gogonuts [4d\]: high quality fuseki
OoohShiny [10k\]: i dont know why i get this feeling
OoohShiny [10k\]: but pro games always feel somehow... clean
gogonuts [4d\]: because they're not dirty amas
OoohShiny [10k\]: ~~
tuquedenne [4d\]: Shikshin's game do really feel "clean" usually ? :D
MariusJ [1k\]: no but Thomas cleans this one
MariusJ [1k\]: for now
OoohShiny [10k\]: this is only the second game of Ilja i watch o.o
UrriS [4k\]: when he is Shikshin - probably/ not roln ^^
tuquedenne [4d\]: but Thomas isn't a pro :)
Fabbo [6k?\]: he is as close to getting a pro as anyone could be
]
;W[ff]C[OoohShiny [10k\]: so you can just skip 7/8/9 dan and can straight become 1p if you do well in tournaments?
MariusJ [1k\]: in Europe, pros are 8d
Fabbo [6k?\]: I meant that he was playing for being a pro and lost in the games
]
;B[fj]
;W[ee]C[Jahfab [2d\]: Thomas doesn't want to be pro
Fabbo [6k?\]: Even if.. He played in the qualifiers
tuquedenne [4d\]: what comes next?
tuquedenne [4d\]: q10?
OoohShiny [10k\]: ah, thomas wants to keep Go as hobby?
Jahfab [2d\]: yes
OoohShiny [10k\]: i see
OoohShiny [10k\]: how old is he?
]
;B[om]C[tuquedenne [4d\]: 22
OoohShiny [10k\]: mhh, i really need to step up my game if i want to become really good one day
gogonuts [4d\]: e15 looks too slow
gogonuts [4d\]: p7 is a great point
MariusJ [1k\]: good key point
tuquedenne [4d\]: thomas is very strong since he's 10
tuquedenne [4d\]: he may be an example but being less strong than him at the same age isn't a pity :)
Jahfab [2d\]: ^^
]
;W[qe]C[OoohShiny [10k\]: well but i am 27 =O almost too late to become good
AkiSanKaku [?\]: e15 urgent move
tuquedenne [4d\]: ask Jahfab :p
Jahfab [2d\]: hehe
gogonuts [4d\]: r13 is par for the course for shikshin :-)
]
;B[pd]C[Zachmura [1d\]: OoohShiny: it is said that kyu players have the rank they want
]
;W[rd]
;B[rc]C[OoohShiny [10k\]: i want to be 6d =O
Zachmura [1d\]: then you will have to work very hard :)
gogonuts [4d\]: free choice ends at 1k :-)
]
;W[qh]
;B[qj]
;W[re]C[OoohShiny [10k\]: hrm ._.
Jahfab [2d\]: this will be difficult
Jahfab [2d\]: aim for the dan already ;)
OoohShiny [10k\]: alright alright o.o
OoohShiny [10k\]: if free choice ends at 1kyu but i reach 3 dan
Annie [2d\]: how much did Shikshin lose by?
OoohShiny [10k\]: that would mean i am generally more intelligent than other human beings right?
OoohShiny [10k\]: like smarter than every kyu could ever dream of
Jahfab [2d\]: lol
Zachmura [1d\]: for some meanings of "intelligent" and some meanings of "other"
Jahfab [2d\]: but right now you're 10k
Jahfab [2d\]: so tha t means ....
Zachmura [1d\]: Shikshin lost by 3.5 or 2.5 and resigned before counting
OoohShiny [10k\]: yeah
Annie [2d\]: Thanks
OoohShiny [10k\]: right now i am 10kyu, so... i will need another year to reach 1d
Annie [2d\]: nah
PlaySlow [11k\]: Winner of this game will represent EUROPE in an event at China at january 2016
Annie [2d\]: just learn fundamental shapes and you'll get 5d in 2
PlaySlow [11k\]: Annie, i do not think it is that easy:)
OoohShiny [10k\]: in 2 weeks? =O
Annie [2d\]: ah does that mean bored one players are set too?
OoohShiny [10k\]: oh wow
OoohShiny [10k\]: impressive
Deodred [3d\]: borded
OoohShiny [10k\]: man, pros sure have a lot of fun
Annie [2d\]: Depends Slow, how motivated you are, how goood of a learner you are and are you studying?
OoohShiny [10k\]: i dont know, i am relaxed to be honest
OoohShiny [10k\]: took me 5 months to reach 10k
PlaySlow [11k\]: I meant not only studying shapes would be enough imo.
Annie [2d\]: Shiny, pros may have a lot of fun but they are also under a lot of stress
Annie [2d\]: oh that was a joke :)
PlaySlow [11k\]: Ah ok;)
doomV20 [5d\]: if you play passively, you counter half of the players who play on KGS
OoohShiny [10k\]: yeah, but ... you know, many people dont come to see china even once in their lives,a nd when you are representing europe everything gonna be for free, you probably even get paid for it
OoohShiny [10k\]: this sounds like an awesome deal
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;B[rg]C[Thumb [3d\]: It's pobably easier to become an airline pilot
Thumb [3d\]: *probably
OoohShiny [10k\]: ill remember that when i talk to the pilot flying me to china ~
Fabbo [6k?\]: I wonder why  white did not exchange s18 T17
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;W[pe]C[Fabbo [6k?\]: it would nake whites N17 kind of sente
Fabbo [6k?\]: *make
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;B[rh]
;W[nd]
;B[nc]
;W[md]
;B[lb]C[MariusJ [1k\]: How will white make points ?
Cool [1k\]: hz
gogonuts [4d\]: w needs a blitz attack on the left
]
;W[od]C[doomV20 [5d\]: my philosophy is - if you want to win games against dan players you have to fight
doomV20 [5d\]: but if you want to beat kyu players
doomV20 [5d\]: just play as passively as possible
doomV20 [5d\]: and bore them to submission
gofrit [1k\]: Thomas se débrouille pas trop mal là
]
;B[lc]
;W[ld]C[ofbusy [-\]: oué
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;B[fm]C[gogonuts [4d\]: f7 is such a fine point for b to get
gogonuts [4d\]: chances of winning greater for b now, including ws greater fighting strength
PlaySlow [11k\]: White should play some move to F5 Area now right?
PlaySlow [11k\]: Couldnt find any good move for W
gogonuts [4d\]: e15 made the game bad for w - smooth sailing for b since then
PlaySlow [11k\]: G7
PlaySlow [11k\]: H6 or G6
PlaySlow [11k\]: all feels not right
PlaySlow [11k\]: Gogonuts
PlaySlow [11k\]:  u mean White shouldnt spend a move to E15 right?
mnbvcx: b4 and h6
PlaySlow [11k\]: h6 g6 g5 h7, then black's shape would be great?
woebegone [-\]: f10 d6 f7 d10 does this shape have a name? dining table or something?
]
;W[gm]
;B[gl]
;W[hm]C[wade [5d\]: b has quite good position here
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;B[hl]C[woebegone [-\]: p7 looks well placed
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;W[im]C[gogonuts [4d\]: p7 is the bane of ws position
gogonuts [4d\]: and b got p7 because of w e15
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;B[il]
;W[jl]
;B[jk]
;W[kl]
;B[mn]
;W[lo]C[notevenbad [-\]: can anyone who has a clue about fuseki tell me if this is good or bad for w?
RedPanda [?\]: seems good for b 
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;B[ln]C[notevenbad [-\]: b seems to have a lot of cash and w not much
]
;W[kn]C[gofrit [1k\]: but white seems to have lot of sente move in yose
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;B[mo]
;W[mp]C[momiji [3d\]: w has to manufacture about 15 pts
RedPanda [?\]: how could w use that wall on the top right?
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;B[bn]C[gofrit [1k\]: I count 10pts difference without black center
gofrit [1k\]: pure cash here isn't it ?
]
;W[bp]C[RedPanda [?\]: was b4 that big?
gofrit [1k\]: 15pts perhaps ?
wade [5d\]: yeah it can become a really ugly ko for b
RedPanda [?\]: oh i see
]
;B[ci]
;W[br]
;B[bq]
;W[aq]
;B[cr]C[ofbusy [-\]: why did b sacrifice this group?
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;W[fn]
;B[em]C[tuquedenne [4d\]: it's alive isn't it?
MariusJ [1k\]: black's group ok, no ?
tuquedenne [4d\]: at least I found no move that kills :)
WangFei [3d\]: it's not dead
storn [3k\]: Which one?
stoup [2k\]: h2
tuquedenne [4d\]: then a2
storn [3k\]: And sagari, yes
woebegone [-\]: h2->seki?
RedPanda [?\]: isn't e1 the point?
wade [5d\]: i think he needs b7 and a6 to do it
tuquedenne [4d\]: e1->e2?
wade [5d\]: e1 e2 c1 d1 ko?
OoohShiny [10k\]: is C2 dead?
storn [3k\]: B plays c1 in sente
storn [3k\]: Because a2 throw in
wade [5d\]: if w has b5 then c1 isnt sente
storn [3k\]: Yes. But now w hasn't it)
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;W[dd]
;B[cd]
;W[df]
;B[ce]
;W[kc]C[woebegone [-\]: b h2 wrong now?
RedPanda [?\]: mmmm
RedPanda [?\]: seems wrong direction
MariusJ [1k\]: P10 ?
momiji [3d\]: w playing calm and thick- like a pro
BlackSmurf [1k?\]: Thomas plays white?
KBAC [2d\]: i hope w is confident about that  , for i'm not
RedPanda [?\]: no, ilja is white
BlackSmurf [1k?\]: Thx
storn [3k\]: Ilya white?? I thought b. I can't see it from mobile app
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;B[gg]C[Artemy [?\]: да, Илья играет белыми.
BlackSmurf [1k?\]: Am i missing something or b is leading comfortably? 
gofrit [1k\]: black no you doesn't
storn [3k\]: Спасибо
herissondu [5d\]: it's probably not that simple
momiji [3d\]: small lead perhaps- not comfortable
]
;W[he]C[WangFei [3d\]: j 13?
BlackSmurf [1k?\]: Ok, the status of the b group in the lower left corner is just alive... Right?
RedPanda [?\]: m13, just play in the middle XD
]
;B[kk]
;W[ll]C[storn [3k\]: WW looks so solid
storn [3k\]: W
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;B[lk]C[PlaySlow [10k\]: Ilya always play for thickness in generaly rather than territory right? At least it was the  impression i have had at this tournament. and some hectic fights
]
;W[ml]
;B[jg]C[PlaySlow [10k\]: Blacksmurf
PlaySlow [10k\]: I think if White plays bttom left first
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;W[pk]C[PlaySlow [10k\]: That  Black group can die
]
;B[qk]
;W[pl]C[Muttley [3k\]: what is the sequence
PlaySlow [10k\]: H2
]
;B[ql]
;W[on]C[PlaySlow [10k\]: H2 F1 D1 E2
Muttley [3k\]: h2 a2 first
PlaySlow [10k\]: Than it would be a ko right?
BlackSmurf [1k?\]: Nope 
PlaySlow [10k\]: Let me read
BlackSmurf [1k?\]: A2 a1 c1 I guess
PlaySlow [10k\]: sry i am slow:)
PlaySlow [10k\]: Aah than white should defend B2 group so black can play to E1 or E2 right?
PlaySlow [10k\]: So the group is alive?
effel [3k\]: H2 C1 A2 G1
BlackSmurf [1k?\]: So it seems...
tuquedenne [4d\]: q6 works?
RedPanda [?\]: q6 o6 ?
herissondu [5d\]: w is ahead
tuquedenne [4d\]: q6 o6 o7
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;B[ol]C[BlackSmurf [1k?\]: Doesn't o7 work?
]
;W[nm]C[BlackSmurf [1k?\]: Laaaaag...
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;B[pn]
;W[nn]
;B[nj]C[Cool [1k\]: r11 
daniug [2d\]: b ahead
daniug [2d\]: ?
RedPanda [?\]: can't say anymore
Cool [1k\]: b +4.5
storn [3k\]: I counted 2.5
Titaantje [1k?\]: Superb counting!
flaw [2k\]: S18 big
RedPanda [?\]: i didn't count, i used a d20
BlackSmurf [1k?\]: And added .5? Nice!
RedPanda [?\]: :)
Lyoug [2k\]: i find it hard to count since yose seems to favor white (S18, B13, H2)
noob1d [5d?\]: r2 big
]
;W[lg]C[noob1d [5d?\]: s18 bigger
Rodtank [1d\]: isn't s18 white sente
]
;B[kb]
;W[jb]C[PlaySlow [10k\]: N13 for black would be bigger maybe if top left black group is aliv?
PlaySlow [10k\]: e?
tonyho [1d\]: can h2 be reverse sente
tonyho [1d\]: ?
storn [3k\]: I think it's only w's sente
WangFei [3d\]: r2
UrriS [4k\]: r13 btw
]
;B[ng]
;W[ni]C[RedPanda [?\]: oh
SideEffect [2k\]: :O
RedPanda [?\]: i would never tought this move O.o
tonyho [1d\]: very complex now
PlaySlow [10k\]: White seems behind if he cannot take something at O13 area?
momiji [3d\]: there's always the ultraviolence...
]
;B[oj]C[Beef [3d\]: what's going on in the down left corner?
storn [3k\]: Nothing
BlackSmurf [1k?\]: B alive
storn [3k\]: It's alive
SideEffect [2k\]: b is dead
Eilinen [-\]: Where?
xzar [1k\]: oh because of C1 isn't itN
xzar [1k\]: ?
keysersoze [?\]: black is alive
SideEffect [2k\]: nuh uh
Beef [3d\]: hehe
storn [3k\]: C1 b sente
Beef [3d\]: h2 a2 a1 c1 a2 g1 and alive
storn [3k\]: Yes
storn [3k\]: Elementary tsumego)
Beef [3d\]: without the throw in is better
]
;W[oi]C[gomac: why the time is two minutes and thirty seconds?
storn [3k\]: Lol
WiteDragon [3k\]: 2 hours thirty minutse
storn [3k\]: May be 2.5 hours
WiteDragon [3k\]: but entered wrong i thin :-)
SideEffect [2k\]: what does black play if white plays e2
ikk7: e1 c1 e2 f1 d1 
keysersoze [?\]: if white e2 seki is possible but black gets better endgame e2 f2 e1 c1 a2 h2 j2 j1 f1 d1 
SideEffect [2k\]: :o
SemiBluff: you mean j1 at h1
tonyho [1d\]: r11 now?
]
;B[pg]C[mafutrct [-\]: what are the players' times, please?
SideEffect [2k\]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EN6QnHPu4cs
SideEffect [2k\]: It shows here
SideEffect [2k\]: :o
SideEffect [2k\]: If you can read pixels
mafutrct [-\]: "Live Streaming is not available in your country due to rights issues."
mafutrct [-\]: :\\
SideEffect [2k\]: D:
SideEffect [2k\]: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fi&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DEN6QnHPu4cs&edit-text=&act=url
SideEffect [2k\]: try this
SideEffect [2k\]: :o
RedPanda [?\]: try hola
mafutrct [-\]: page loads, but video does not, sadly
SideEffect [2k\]: :(
Zachmura [1d\]: b 35 min, w 1:11 i think
EGC2015b [-\]: yes
gofrit [1k\]: wich country ar you mafutrct ?
mafutrct [-\]: germany
gofrit [1k\]: very strange :(
RedPanda [?\]: are you using chrome?
mafutrct [-\]: yes
SideEffect [2k\]: EGC doesnt like germans watching the stream :(
gofrit [1k\]: try with firefox
Zachmura [1d\]: there are some issues with streaming to Germany
RedPanda [?\]: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/unlimited-free-vpn-hola/gkojfkhlekighikafcpjkiklfbnlmeio
mafutrct [-\]: i think certain powerful germans dont like germans watching the egc, rather :)
RedPanda [?\]: get this
SideEffect [2k\]: Hitler?
SideEffect [2k\]: :O
mafutrct [-\]: GEMA, rather
tuquedenne [4d\]: GEMA?  Gesellschaft für musikalische Aufführungs?
PlaySlow [10k\]: White 1:08
PlaySlow [10k\]: Black 0:35
mafutrct [-\]: thanks for the link Panda
mafutrct [-\]: something like that, tuq
mafutrct [-\]: thanks Slow
gofrit [1k\]: seems to be a problem with the IDM on chrome... seems to be ok with firefox
Lyoug [2k\]: Yes tuquedenne, basically they forbid streaming to youtube because of copyright issues (like if the streamer played some songs)
tuquedenne [4d\]: I see
BlackSmurf [1k?\]: Have they stopped for lunch?
PlaySlow [10k\]: ilya seems to reading
gofrit [1k\]: nope they're thinking
PlaySlow [10k\]: I liked black's position at O13, seems like no weakness
Fabbo [6k?\]: this looks too good for b here. Or am I just too weak to recognize something?
]
;W[pi]C[ofbusy [-\]: well t looks indeed good for b locally
]
;B[qg]
;W[mh]C[tonyho [1d\]: p14
]
;B[of]
;W[oe]
;B[kf]
;W[lf]
;B[ke]
;W[le]C[ben0 [6d\]: b cant cut
ben0 [6d\]: cause of r17
]
;B[kd]C[dude [?\]: what happens there?
BlackSmurf [1k?\]: Hmmm...
ben0 [6d\]: r17 q17 s18 n17 n18 and o18
ben0 [6d\]: cant capture
ben0 [6d\]: r18 instead of s18 sorry
zima [1k\]: b thinks he can
zima [1k\]: :)
OoohShiny [10k\]: are those really 2 eyes
OoohShiny [10k\]: i am only a puny 10k but for me it looks like 1 eye max
]
;W[pj]C[AlexOss [3k\]: fight, Ilya!
OoohShiny [10k\]: N10?
]
;B[pm]C[ben0 [6d\]: if thomas didnt see the sequence in the corner, it's quite bad
]
;W[mc]
;B[mb]
;W[qc]C[Hashishin [5k?\]: Ilja win all games? 
liusasori [4d\]: no he lost to ali yesterday
LucianC [-\]: The early L18 move was bad, without it Black could have made it a ko... 
Hashishin [5k?\]: ok, thx liusasori
liusasori [4d\]: this is why he is fighting for 3rd place
]
;B[pc]
;W[qb]C[TheThe [4k\]: this works?
storn [3k\]: nice!
tuquedenne [4d\]: looks like it does
]
;B[rb]C[storn [3k\]: I see!
]
;W[nb]C[storn [3k\]: good job, Ilja!
storn [3k\]: wow!!! nice tesuji!_
Warfreak2 [-\]: super roln
H16 [2d\]: q18
H16 [2d\]: just
Warfreak2 [-\]: q18 n19 
OoohShiny [10k\]: even if white gets S18 group is is only 1 eye
liusasori [4d\]: p18 s19 q18 r19 and b cant q19
NightShift [6d\]: this is standard tesuji shape
]
;B[ob]C[storn [3k\]: q18 n19 and m18 capturs
Weishenme [4d\]: very nice
H16 [2d\]: nice
]
;W[ra]C[OoohShiny [10k\]: oh
tuquedenne [4d\]: b's pretending w's still dead?
OoohShiny [10k\]: 2 eyes
tuquedenne [4d\]: t18 t16 o19 t17 o14?
tuquedenne [4d\]: or even l12 instead of o14
storn [3k\]: t18 t16 o19 and white has still one eye?
ben0 [6d\]: t18 o19
storn [3k\]: ah, no
ben0 [6d\]: w capture the three stone but black has to had a move
tuquedenne [4d\]: you're a silly boy, ben
ben0 [6d\]: :)
tuquedenne [4d\]: so, o19 t18 and w leads the game?
]
;B[sb]C[Warfreak2 [-\]: t18 o19 doesn't seem to do much
storn [3k\]: but still one eye?
]
;W[na]C[liusasori [4d\]: b end this in gote then
Warfreak2 [-\]: n19
]
;B[ma]C[storn [3k\]: yes, I see. b needs to live in gote
Warfreak2 [-\]: w still needs t16, but also n14
Warfreak2 [-\]: or something like m11
storn [3k\]: warfreak, w will make eye, because b needs l19 
Warfreak2 [-\]: yes, but if w makes the second eye after b l19, it's still not w sente
liusasori [4d\]: after w capture 3 stonbes in corner o14 and s18 miai for second eye
storn [3k\]: yes. Seems like white gote to live. But this is ilja)
Warfreak2 [-\]: w doesn't capture three stones
liusasori [4d\]: sorry yes
liusasori [4d\]: confusion between sequences ><
]
;W[sd]C[storn [3k\]: I liked this tesuji! hpw can I get skill to see it while playing?
Welvang [6d\]: Tsumego
]
;B[oa]C[liusasori [4d\]: do 10000 tsumego
storn [3k\]: omg... 
Krikri [1k\]: O18 now?
Eilinen [-\]: wut?
storn [3k\]: o18??
Krikri [1k\]: ah soory
ligo [5k?\]: please show stream link
Prometey [4k\]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EN6QnHPu4cs
Krikri [1k\]: *sorry
ligo [5k?\]: ty
]
;W[qa]C[liusasori [4d\]: o18 doesn't work if b simply o19
]
;B[ka]C[Krikri [1k\]: yeah it makes no difference 
storn [3k\]: and...
storn [3k\]: Will Ilja live in gote?
liusasori [4d\]: now bets are open
storn [3k\]: Or he will find another way?
liusasori [4d\]: I'd like to see k12
gofrit [1k\]: w n10 ?
ligo [5k?\]: how old are players?
storn [3k\]: n10 is useless
]
;W[mf]C[RedPanda [?\]: illja is 20ish i think
TheThe [4k\]: simples
storn [3k\]: ligo, Ilja is about 24-25
liusasori [4d\]: ilja already 25 he is a grandpa
tuquedenne [4d\]: so w is far ahead?
TheThe [4k\]: k12 would be more fun however
bleen [1d\]: both players mid20
suibaku [1d\]: they're both younger than me, huh?
liusasori [4d\]: w slightly ahead but b still has potential in center
ligo [5k?\]: is there sound in the link, perhaps the room or ticking clock?
]
;B[fg]C[tuquedenne [4d\]: even with the maximum of points for b in the center I'm counting w a komi ahead
]
;W[bf]
;B[be]C[Prometey [4k\]: e3 is dead?
RedPanda [?\]: no
suibaku [1d\]: n o
]
;W[bh]C[suibaku [1d\]: all kinds of cool stuff to do there
suibaku [1d\]: like a2
]
;B[af]C[storn [3k\]: b seems to be ahead, but w has so much tasty sente
storn [3k\]: yose sente
suibaku [1d\]: b not ahead
]
;W[bg]C[liusasori [4d\]: b is not ahead
storn [3k\]: isnt?
TheThe [4k\]: aga rules
suibaku [1d\]: rule set doesnt really make a difference -.-
TheThe [4k\]: oh but it does
liusasori [4d\]: o-if b could get all center and yose move like r2 and h2 then yes
liusasori [4d\]: but it will not be the case
Warfreak2 [-\]: h2 is a small gote for black
RedPanda [?\]: is there komi?
PlaySlow [10k\]: Eh
liusasori [4d\]: 7.5
vaurien [2k?\]: 7.5
AlexOss [3k\]: SУ crazy
PlaySlow [10k\]: Yes there is 7.5 point komi:)
SideEffect [2k\]: :O
RedPanda [?\]: ok thanks :)
]
;B[hb]C[AlexOss [3k\]: *SE crazy
SideEffect [2k\]: :OO
suibaku [1d\]: SE pro
liusasori [4d\]: h2 is small for black and w at first but next move for both is big
TheThe [4k\]: SE is 2003 tech, what do you expect
]
;W[hc]C[TheThe [4k\]: the whole kgs froze in time in 2003 actually
BlackSmurf [1k?\]: Schweppes?
storn [3k\]: h2 is sente for w, no?
liusasori [4d\]: so it's almost sente for b as well
]
;B[ib]C[storn [3k\]: why not to play it now?)
storn [3k\]: I need some coffee
liusasori [4d\]: well if b sacrify bottom in order to try to kill w top
suibaku [1d\]: because they both hate double sente -.-
liusasori [4d\]: if b had one free move now on top what he can do is the question
storn [3k\]: can w die at top?
]
;W[ic]C[vaurien [2k?\]: no
]
;B[ja]C[storn [3k\]: I mean if tenuki after b connects in k19 
liusasori [4d\]: now timing is good for big w yose ?
storn [3k\]: w must answer now?
]
;W[gb]C[storn [3k\]: finally yes. 
suibaku [1d\]: white alive and well now
storn [3k\]: so much tasty yose moves
RedPanda [?\]: r2 time?
storn [3k\]: b10 seems also big
storn [3k\]: but gote.
RedPanda [?\]: yes was looking thoose 2
storn [3k\]: or no... I am too lazy to read it
UrriS [4k\]: r11 double sente
suibaku [1d\]: has to be a toss up between h2 and r2
Warfreak2 [-\]: how
Warfreak2 [-\]: h2 is 2 points gote
Warfreak2 [-\]: r2 is much larger
]
;B[qr]C[PlaySlow [10k\]: h2 for black is sente?
Warfreak2 [-\]: no, it's gote for black
TytanPracy [2d?\]: b10
Warfreak2 [-\]: if w h2, black will need to descend at g1 to live
PlaySlow [10k\]: H2 - J2 J1 K1 f2 L2
]
;W[db]C[Warfreak2 [-\]: what are you smoking
KKK2016: green grenn gras of home . . .
PlaySlow [10k\]: Ah ok Black group dies ifhe does that
]
;B[kh]C[Prometey [4k\]: c19
AlexOss [3k\]: W b10 ?
UrriS [4k\]: r11 first ^^
Warfreak2 [-\]: white b18 makes a 10,000 year ko
]
;W[bj]
;B[bi]
;W[ai]
;B[bk]C[Weishenme [4d\]: b is ahead no ?
RedPanda [?\]: ahha i was playing this sequence offline :D
vaansama [2d?\]: practice your reading withouyt
]
;W[hr]
;B[ar]
;W[as]
;B[cs]
;W[fr]
;B[bs]C[RedPanda [?\]: yeah i should 
]
;W[gs]
;B[er]C[gofrit [1k\]: ilja make a lot of points here
IstvanV [3k\]: E11
]
;W[or]C[ben0 [6d\]: seems it's a win for w
Warfreak2 [-\]: of course it is, roln is super strong
ben0 [6d\]: and there's still a thousand year ko in the upper left corner
Titaantje [1k?\]: Still very close
]
;B[da]C[ben0 [6d\]: not anymore :D
]
;W[ea]C[storn [3k\]: gote
ben0 [6d\]: but needed
]
;B[ca]
;W[if]C[jer [4d\]: Ben0 qui est qui ?
storn [3k\]: anyway, b hasn't enough for victory)
ben0 [6d\]: thomas est noir
gofrit [1k\]: f16 is still a bad thing between your teeth
ben0 [6d\]: il était bien puis il n'a pas vu une séquence en haut à droite et là il est mal je pense
tonyho [1d\]: g14?
]
;B[lh]C[jer [4d\]: Merde et fan est quoi ?
gofrit [1k\]: fan chasse
RemiC [-\]: noir
]
;W[mg]C[ben0 [6d\]: je sais pas, c'est le bordel dans leur parti
ben0 [6d\]: e
]
;B[mi]
;W[mj]
;B[li]
;W[mk]
;B[nl]
;W[nh]
;B[ig]
;W[dh]
;B[cj]
;W[ei]
;B[fi]
;W[qs]
;B[rs]
;W[ps]
;B[nf]
;W[ne]
;B[gf]
;W[ge]
;B[rr]C[EGC2015b [-\]: black in byoyomi
]
;W[an]
;B[am]C[Lyoug [2k\]: i'm getting w+6.5
]
;W[ao]
;B[cm]
;W[qi]
;B[ri]
;W[hf]
;B[hg]C[Zachmura [1d\]: review now on at the stream: egc2015.cz/stream
]
;W[ga]
;B[ia]
;W[ag]
;B[ab]
;W[ae]
;B[ad]
;W[lj]
;B[kj]
;W[al]
;B[bm]C[daniug [2d\]: why a 1?
gofrit [1k\]: french power !
daniug [2d\]: a8,sry
tonyho [1d\]: a mistake
]
;W[ej]
;B[ek]
;W[aj]
;B[ak]
;W[ah]C[tonyho [1d\]: oh
tonyho [1d\]: one point later
tonyho [1d\]: f15 big later
vaansama [2d?\]: fan won european tournament
vaansama [2d?\]: by resign
]
;B[es]
;W[ef]
;B[fs]
;W[gr]C[guzumi [-\]: european championship*
KKK2016: congratz
]
;B[sf]
;W[jd]
;B[je]
;W[ie]
;B[rf]
;W[fh]
;B[gh]
;W[kg]
;B[jf]
;W[eh]
;B[ar]
;W[jh]
;B[ki]C[ketron12 [3k\]: ?
Cool [1k\]: победа
]
;W[fk]C[Cool [1k\]: Ильи тесудзи
liusasori [4d\]: this work ??
storn [3k\]: Ооо
Terranigma [1k\]: i think so
gofrit [1k\]: E13 libertie
]
;B[dk]
;W[gi]
;B[gj]
;W[hi]C[Cool [1k\]: работает
liusasori [4d\]: at least big semidori
storn [3k\]: Yes!
liusasori [4d\]: resign
storn [3k\]: Works
Fabbo [6k?\]: j11?
Cool [1k\]: не хватает 1 даме(
liusasori [4d\]: j11 h10 g9 j12 then b dead
]
;B[hj]
;W[ji]C[EGC2015b [-\]: W+R
tuquedenne [4d\]: grats ilja
Cool [1k\]: теперь работает
Terranigma [1k\]: told ya
ketron12 [3k\]: ;0
Terranigma [1k\]: thanks
Janan [-\]: thanks
KKK2016: congratz ilja
gofrit [1k\]: flute
RG56 [2d?\]: Seki
stj1997 [1d\]: oops
plester [10k?\]: Zut
FryMe [3k\]: it's a seki
liusasori [4d\]: j10 j11 k10 e13 seki for w
Titaantje [1k?\]: thx
letoII [5k\]: j11 does not work ?
letoII [5k\]: ok, nothing :)
VIH [3d?\]: J11-K8!
ketron12 [3k\]: k9
ketron12 [3k\]: no
ketron12 [3k\]: what?
ketron12 [3k\]: j9
Cool [1k\]: j11 j9 
EGC2015b [-\]: thanks for watching
miracle2c [9k\]: Thanks for translation
])
