(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[150]OT[3x60 byo-yomi]
GN[European Championship 2015 - Semifinals, Fan Hui (w) vs. Thomas Debarre (b)]PW[Fan Hui]PB[Debarre Thomas]WR[2p]BR[6d]DT[2015-08-01]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[snowy [1k\]: there is egc gamu? o_O
Muttley [3k\]: Keep calm and wait for fireworks
Muttley [3k\]: Thomas DeBarre vs. Fan Hui
GameofWind [4d\]: '___' fanhui will win
GameofWind [4d\]: thomas isn't in the good mood these days
wade [5d\]: after winning against pavol i think he might be happy :P
darkronin [2k?\]: Go Debarre!
Minjhou [5k?\]: who's playing this board?
wry [2d\]: Oh, nice game here :D
KKK2016: debarre - van hui
Rodtank [1d\]: it's a shame artem is out already after his great win against fan hui
Rodtank [1d\]: that win deserved to be in the final
ofbusy [-\]: i dont think i saw any 5-3 or 5-4 points in the championship so far maybe pro dont play these opening nowadays
Muttley [3k\]: not really
Muttley [3k\]: they can transpose from 3-4 high approach tenuki though
]RE[W+3.50]
;B[qd]C[Muttley [3k\]: but that's the dynamics of fuseki rather than 5-4 itself
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;W[pp]
;B[dc]
;W[cp]
;B[ep]
;W[de]C[ofbusy [-\]: well thats a good exemple here looks like
darkronin [2k?\]: Who is black?
GameofWind [4d\]: c15 is normal
wry [2d\]: black thomas, white fan
flobby [-\]: easy game for w?
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;B[ce]
;W[cf]
;B[cd]
;W[eo]C[Mikko88888: lol not easy
Y [-\]: Hui Black? 
KKK2016: yep
gonzo [4d?\]: nope
kmr [1d\]: only player close to God level  could say "easy game for white " after 6 normal pro moves
Mikko88888: hui white, thomas black
flobby [-\]: I meant based on strength, not board position...
ofbusy [-\]: i dont know how many times thomas won to fan, at least one..
Y [-\]: Thank you Mikko, gonzo
MariusJ [1k\]: Does someone know why Kraemer didn't qualify for the quarter finals after four wins ?
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;B[cq]C[ofbusy [-\]: because he wasnt in the 24 players supergroup to begin with
wry [2d\]: then no one can, there is no one close to me right now
Y [-\]: Different tournaments merged into one wall list
MariusJ [1k\]: ok thanks
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;W[dp]
;B[dq]
;W[fo]
;B[fq]C[Rodtank [1d\]: ofbusy, dinerstein played some 5-3s
ofbusy [-\]: ok rodtank (i dont usually look at 4 games at one time too much brain activity for me)
GameofWind [4d\]: hard now
GameofWind [4d\]: for b
IraTrask [3k\]: b lost?
Rodtank [1d\]: i wouldn't say hard, but he certainly co-operates with white's plan
GameofWind [4d\]: yes
GameofWind [4d\]: playable for both
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;W[df]C[IraTrask [3k\]: The best games are when you cooperate with your opponent to remove his stones from the board.
IraTrask [3k\]: F17
EGC2015b [-\]: Marius: main is a mix of preliminary rounds and other players. Kraemer was not in preliminary.
Grunman [8k\]: d10
wry [2d\]: then that DCNNsomething bot is the perfect player
kmr [1d\]: i expected D13
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;B[fc]
;W[hp]C[Syxok [2d\]: wow
kmr [1d\]: wow black has nerves..... as black i would do anythning to prevent such a moyo
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;B[hr]C[Rodtank [1d\]: i epect thomas to answer at h2
Zachmura [1k\]: what moyo? :)
Syxok [2d\]: w g14 next would be funny
GameofWind [4d\]: i would like to cut at d5 than play h2 
Rodtank [1d\]: he is a patient player
wade [5d\]: remember that this kind of moyo is quite difficult to transform to pts
wade [5d\]: especially with d5 cut
ofbusy [-\]: i saw fan playing this kind of opening as b
ofbusy [-\]: (and he won)
Muttley [3k\]: black's yose later reduces the territory considerably, so you learn not to panic early
Muttley [3k\]: the time for panic is later
GameofWind [4d\]: d5 d6 c5 b4 b6 c8 
kmr [1d\]: time for panic is, when Muttley use bolds ;)
fujiyama [8k\]: normally Fan will protect the cut? C6B
Muttley [3k\]: hehe
GameofWind [4d\]: then w has no point
Weishenme [4d\]: d10 now ?
GameofWind [4d\]: h2 is slow to me
kmr [1d\]: against other admins ofc ^^
Rodtank [1d\]: the only pro game like this, black won
Rodtank [1d\]: white played d10 next
Rodtank [1d\]: then black q10 and white b4
rocket [1d\]: g15 looks nice
Rodtank [1d\]: later black invaded the moyo and killed d15 in the resulting semeai
poivre [2k\]: any link for this pro game?
Muttley [3k\]: "Don't invade the moyo, kill the moyo" :))
fujiyama [8k\]: D10 is the move weishenme but C7 move OR d6 move more secure?
kmr [1d\]: black invaded moyo, and killed both groups of white which constructed this moyo ^^
Muttley [3k\]: righteous :) go Thomas!
kmr [1d\]: D6 is too slow for sure
Rodtank [1d\]: http://ps.waltheri.net/database.html#/game/43462?move=19
rocket [1d\]: if b cuts at d5 then w can give up two stones in good shape and sente
poivre [2k\]: thank you
IraTrask [3k\]: P16
fujiyama [8k\]: Allez la France ^^ in any case France win this game !
poivre [2k\]: now i know this website :D
chansiukit [1k\]: is it too expensive to get a good shape?
Xylol [4k\]: weiqi.tools, a good and simple pattern search
ofbusy [-\]: well its not the only game cause i make a search on the same database with different order and got another game
Xylol [4k\]: http://weiqi.tools/?q=z1jy1kz24y25z2my2nz37y39z4cy4e
Xylol [4k\]: a few games with the joseki in bottom left
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;W[gf]C[NightShift [6d\]: h2 is a little surprising, recently some pros tenukied at that time to prevent moyo
Muttley [3k\]: The Chinese game with this fuseki was crazy
Xylol [4k\]: b maybe should had the nozoki at d6 first
fujiyama [8k\]: white want to make a large Moyo and say " black go in !" as fan say
poivre [2k\]: now in my infos!!
poivre [2k\]: ty again
fujiyama [8k\]: how can Black enter this moyo?
Muttley [3k\]: "plop" play a stone
rocket [1d\]: take a line from h4 to g14,this is the invading borderline
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;B[dj]C[tr3bl [3k\]: g10 or j10 might be an option, and enough
tr3bl [3k\]: or that
fujiyama [8k\]: D10 so
Muttley [3k\]: "kill me."
Muttley [3k\]: To be fair, w makes centre this way?
GoMaster [2d\]: in handicap games, that might happen 
tr3bl [3k\]: b has nice poking point at d6, so it might live somewow
fujiyama [8k\]: now D8 white good
ofbusy [-\]: i think b c6 is more the point
NightShift [6d\]: just cut
NightShift [6d\]: if playing down there
ofbusy [-\]: lol
rocket [1d\]: f10 looks also good
tr3bl [3k\]: c6 seems nicer indeed
fujiyama [8k\]: F10 is another option or E9
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;W[cl]C[wry [2d\]: did anyone say something about b being patient?
kmr [1d\]: D10 looked very deep, but when white responded with C8 black looks much better, i was thinking about cap F10 for white rather
Syxok [2d\]: well its easy to live inside for black if w caps
kmr [1d\]: i would no live against Fan ^^
fujiyama [8k\]: F13 will be good for black now ?
tr3bl [3k\]: with c8, did w make the plan to get more influence, by chasing black?
ofbusy [-\]: g10 maybe. i think if10 then h10 
fujiyama [8k\]: F10 is good but a kyu move ^^
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;B[fj]C[ofbusy [-\]: ahah
letoII [5k\]: a 6d kyu move :)
fujiyama [8k\]: yes
flos [1k\]: sometimes kyus play good move
letoII [5k\]: hehe
fujiyama [8k\]: it happens to me really 
letoII [5k\]: or -d bad ones ?
letoII [5k\]: 6d
tr3bl [3k\]: j10 now. all in!"
ofbusy [-\]: e9 is tempting to prevent d8
fujiyama [8k\]: E9 logical but is there a general fuseki move elsewhere? as p16?
Syxok [2d\]: maybe w will h10
ofbusy [-\]: i think w will h10anyway its too much a key point
fujiyama [8k\]: h10 is not urgent now h16 better
ofbusy [-\]: well its urgent for b so it is for w
ofbusy [-\]: sort of
kmr [1d\]: hte point is that white group D15 has no base either, so white cant leave it just as it is
fujiyama [8k\]: in that case c10 better move also
ofbusy [-\]: w b10 is valuable but seems ultra submissive
schonach [3k\]: if f10 get weak, d15 get stronger
atlanta: we9 to make black heavy and then g11 or h11
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;W[hj]
;B[dl]
;W[ck]C[asahin: d6 g8 ?
chansiukit [1k\]: h8 is a good move for me
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;B[hi]C[asahin: h11 is kiai?
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;W[gi]
;B[gj]C[IraTrask [3k\]: J9
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;W[hk]C[ofbusy [-\]: in this kind of position i just play random tsuke cause its too hard to read :p
ofbusy [-\]: but i would have h9 as b
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;B[dm]C[asahin: b seems to have enough room and aji to live there
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;W[cm]
;B[dn]
;W[bo]C[fujiyama [8k\]: CUT d5
gogonuts [4d\]: w looks dynamic
wry [2d\]: doesn't look really good for b
ofbusy [-\]: b next move seems decisive this position is very unclear to me
tr3bl [3k\]: why? w can just play f7 or something if b tries to cut
gogonuts [4d\]: prefer w
ofbusy [-\]: i would take the free phonecall to a pro friend
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;B[hm]C[gogonuts [4d\]: h7: maybe h emade that call :_)
rocket [1d\]: let´s hope b read this out
gogonuts [4d\]: high coolness value for h7
tr3bl [3k\]: w g8 seems suspiciously strong response to this
wry [2d\]: on kgs that move would lead to w answering g7 after 0.2s of reflexion
ofbusy [-\]: g7 seems ok to me here
ofbusy [-\]: lol wry
gogonuts [4d\]: f8 is the shape point
ofbusy [-\]: g7 h8 g8 g9 and there s a ladder 
gogonuts [4d\]: against ladders w always has the recourse of J11
gogonuts [4d\]: not that J11 is desirable :-)
rocket [1d\]: seems like w must play g8 or g7
fujiyama [8k\]: G8 cut don't work
ofbusy [-\]: also b has j11 which is sente on g12 f11 e12 geta of the cuttin stone
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;W[gl]C[fujiyama [8k\]: g8 Complicated move ^^
tr3bl [3k\]: should be less complicated than g7, right?
rocket [1d\]: if i am black and fan hui plays this move..........hands up
gogonuts [4d\]: hm, cutting off top 3 stones would be very nice for w
PlaySlow [11k\]: But black thought White can play G8 before playing his H7 i think. At least briefly when evaluating options
rocket [1d\]: maybe b has something nice in his bag
GameofWind [4d\]: maybe not
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;B[gm]C[fujiyama [8k\]: G8 black must sacrifice 3 stones?
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;W[fl]C[gogonuts [4d\]: f7 or f8 - w in luxury mode
gogonuts [4d\]: f8 is the vital point and its just no fun for b
GoRoGoRo [12k?\]: it was fan for b
GoRoGoRo [12k?\]: *Fan
ofbusy [-\]: f7 d9 d5 like?
GoRoGoRo [12k?\]: Now b has a Fanphobie
rocket [1d\]: Fanny joke :-)
fujiyama [8k\]: Fan says alway " i will invite you in my moyo, and i close the doors"
asahin: creepy
ofbusy [-\]: indeed :p
fujiyama [8k\]: there is a Babylon Center who black can't escape ^^
gogonuts [4d\]: welcome foolish mortal, in my haunted mansion :-)
asahin: what's a babylon center ?
fujiyama [8k\]: its the Liberec center :)
asahin: oh
asahin: thx
ofbusy [-\]: its not the bob marley one
rocket [1d\]: draculas mansion?
MariusJ [1k\]: Is it enough for black to leave C10 and cut at D5 ?
fujiyama [8k\]: So thomas has to go to the swimming pool now
asahin: cut at d5 doesnt accomplish anything ?
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;B[fm]C[MariusJ [1k\]: don't run alone 
gogonuts [4d\]: f7 d9 d5 - w better
dozen [6d?\]: my feeling tells me b is alright
asahin: sure he is, only 40 moves were played
dozen [6d?\]: so auch aji like f13 and such
gogonuts [4d\]: w d5, letting b fix too, doesnt look so good
dozen [6d?\]: much
fujiyama [8k\]: Then D9 white 
asahin: d9 seems the safe way
gogonuts [4d\]: d9 d5 g12 
fujiyama [8k\]: yes D9 white a very severe move
GameofWind [4d\]: d9 small
gogonuts [4d\]: not small
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;W[dk]C[fujiyama [8k\]: yes d9
asahin: it's almost a 40 points move
gogonuts [4d\]: its also a power move
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;B[do]C[fujiyama [8k\]: for sure debarre has to resign now
Muttley [3k\]: Its d9!  He's played d9!  d9!! And the crowd yawn with excitement!!
tr3bl [3k\]: no way fuji
Muttley [3k\]: d9 and its still a fight
gogonuts [4d\]: g12 for me, the most boring player
fujiyama [8k\]: debarre fighting spirit we will see
dozen [6d?\]: may as well turn out that w overplayed, lets see ;-) 
fujiyama [8k\]: for me Fan has win this game definitely
asahin: did thomas already beaten fan ?
fujiyama [8k\]: i don't know
Muttley [3k\]: yes
steganosa: fan hui vs. thomas = 8:1
steganosa: in egd rated games
ofbusy [-\]: abandonning f5 wouldnt be christian from w
oreo [1d?\]: he's probably not sothis wouldn't be a prb :-)
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;W[fp]
;B[eq]
;W[el]C[fujiyama [8k\]: anyway as i said previously black mus leave several stones
fujiyama [8k\]: depend what thomas choice?
Weishenme [4d\]: poor result for B
fujiyama [8k\]: yes indeed
fujiyama [8k\]: so never go to Fan Hostel  :(
gogonuts [4d\]: they say you get mugged there
wry [1d\]: they throw stones at you
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;B[em]C[fujiyama [8k\]: then Fan F11 good move
ofbusy [-\]: j5 
Weishenme [4d\]: g12 or K5 ?
wry [1d\]: lower seem more important right now
uolhdf: is b neufx9 here?
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;W[jp]
;B[bq]C[fujiyama [8k\]: yes
uolhdf: tx
GameofWind [4d\]: b try to run everything
gogonuts [4d\]: wow, k4 sure is greedy :-)
Naphthalin [6k?\]: is it?
uolhdf: very good result for him
Naphthalin [6k?\]: maybe just running for life?
apina [1d\]: it's not fun for black, that G7 looks weaker than H4
PlaySlow [11k\]: Should W sacrifice B5 group? They are small for early game.righ there are bigger moves?
gogonuts [4d\]: w is saying that b will never have the time for g13
apina [1d\]: PlaySlow, those are cutting stones
PlaySlow [11k\]: Or white shouldnt sacrifice them to keep attackong?
Kryptos: but b5 group are cuting stones
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;W[bp]C[Y [-\]: P16
MariusJ [1k\]: B5 stones are not small at all
wry [1d\]: c4 stones important, h7 is in danger as long as they're alive
PlaySlow [11k\]: Ah, i get it
gogonuts [4d\]: for now b must jump
PlaySlow [11k\]: H5 might be tesuji for black?
tuquedenne [4d\]: it's not
PlaySlow [11k\]: G3 prevents it i guess
ofbusy [-\]: h5 j5 dont work
mnbvcx: k7
Y [-\]: K6
ofbusy [-\]: i think w will try to build influence for the right side then come back to g12
Y [-\]: H8 G9
Kryptos: to many weak groups for both.. not safe to tenuki and play on right
ofbusy [-\]: h8 is a little aji keshi to me
Y [-\]: After G9, L6 for pressure
Beef [3d\]: this looks horrible
fujiyama [8k\]: black has no choice he must k7
mnbvcx: how much time is given to the party
gogonuts [4d\]: k7 is better
gogonuts [4d\]: k6 helps w to jump again
fujiyama [8k\]: thanks gogonuts
gogonuts [4d\]: watch him play k6 :-)
Kryptos: what aboutnL6?
Kryptos: too far?
gogonuts [4d\]: L7 looks possible
fujiyama [8k\]: h8 turn is good idea also for black
gogonuts [4d\]: but I would k7
ofbusy [-\]: b stones are heavy and too big its sure a burden
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;B[km]C[Kryptos: k7 invites k9 chase... outcome not lookimg good for b
fujiyama [8k\]: right L7 more advanced move
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;W[ko]C[fujiyama [8k\]: sanwich game now
Xylol [4k\]: L5 is so pro
Naphthalin [6k?\]: b can afford e9?
bunyan1 [2k\]: that group is dead at the moment
bunyan1 [2k\]: there would be no point
bunyan1 [2k\]: yet...
Fabbo [7k?\]: maybe when H12 becomes sente elsewhere
ofbusy [-\]: m8 i think
ofbusy [-\]: unless theres a cut problem
ofbusy [-\]: no i think its ok
gogonuts [4d\]: if b fixes, w will c12 and b will cry
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;B[gh]C[gogonuts [4d\]: so no fixing :-)
Fabbo [7k?\]: y u no F13 first
ofbusy [-\]: thats spirited
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;W[fi]C[gogonuts [4d\]: fan read that the ladder is bad for b :-)
rija [1d\]: ladder breaking somewhere ?
ofbusy [-\]: f13 is an idea
fujiyama [8k\]: h12
fujiyama [8k\]: e11 shisho works for white ^^
gogonuts [4d\]: the normal tesuji in less busy times was g13 instead of g12 for b
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;B[eh]C[rija [1d\]: d14 will be under attack...
fujiyama [8k\]: h12 white?
ofbusy [-\]: i think the idea is that w cant h12 ..
mnbvcx: черные уже проиграли
mnbvcx: Black has already lost
Lyoug [2k\]: ofbusy, you mean if w h12 then b's cut at e9 becomes a problem for h9 stones?
ofbusy [-\]: well if this works b might make a comeback
ofbusy [-\]: yes lyoug i think thats the idea
Kaidjin [4k?\]: Lost like his game of yesterday? 
fujiyama [8k\]: yes ofvusy H12 make problem if white push e11 etc
gogonuts [4d\]: i think w doesnt want b to get a center position
gogonuts [4d\]: which would happen with w h12 ect
gogonuts [4d\]: maybe w L9
rocket [1d\]: j11 possible?
ofbusy [-\]: like in "tenuki vs tenuki, the movie" ?
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;W[ei]C[fujiyama [8k\]: E12 black is like a pro move :)
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;B[di]C[ofbusy [-\]: e10 f12 e9 c12 g16 ?
eclaireur [3k\]: h12
ofbusy [-\]: or maybe b comes back to defend h7 now...
fujiyama [8k\]: no good solution for white now
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;W[ej]
;B[fh]
;W[ek]
;B[ch]C[Kryptos: wow... now black really have 2 weak heavy groups
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;W[gd]C[Lyoug [2k\]: nice sequence call ofbusy
ofbusy [-\]: thx
kmr [1d\]: white has 2 weak groups too
Cez [4d\]: this looks bad for both
kmr [1d\]: yes, looks like korean fuseki :)
gogonuts [4d\]: overall, w k4 sure was a more complicated plan than w g12 :-)
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;B[ih]C[ofbusy [-\]: i think w must be quite happy even if his cash disappeared
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;W[jf]C[gogonuts [4d\]: my favorite position is cash and thickness :-)
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;B[kh]
;W[lf]
;B[mh]C[ofbusy [-\]: time for a giant cut ?
fujiyama [8k\]: cash for black will be m6 after
Miky [4k\]: thx EGC for the youtube broadcast. its even better ! :)
ofbusy [-\]: a little h13 first maybe
Invite28: g17 ?
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;W[nf]C[noob1d [5d?\]: b will try to connect the groups
noob1d [5d?\]: hard task
fujiyama [8k\]: not so hard if good play direction now 
fujiyama [8k\]: N4 black or around to pressure white weak group
noob1d [5d?\]: b can't allow w l9 
noob1d [5d?\]: b is the one who has (2) weak groups
fujiyama [8k\]: yes
noob1d [5d?\]: altho w p17 will feel nice
ofbusy [-\]: i think i would o4 which i seriously doubt will be played
fujiyama [8k\]: yes ofbusy good move , black must take some  risk now
ofbusy [-\]: well i think its kyuish  but i like it :)
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;B[gc]C[apina [1d\]: I would like to play L9
apina [1d\]: don't know, if it's any good, but want to cut
Annie [-\]: noot sure why everyone keeps saying fan is advancing when Thomas seems to be holding out well so far
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;W[hg]
;B[hh]
;W[kk]
;B[he]C[gisel [2d\]: It's difficult for both now
Ten [?\]: I'll take white any day
ofbusy [-\]: i would say that too gisel
gogonuts [4d\]: yes, L9 and H15 both pour gasoline on the position
tuquedenne [4d\]: thanks for your advice, Ten
gogonuts [4d\]: at this point w does not want to lose d14 stones
gogonuts [4d\]: that would ruin his double attack
snowmen [4d\]: I think, white has clean winning position
gogonuts [4d\]: for me w g15, even though its not much fun
MariusJ [1k\]: but he may have to kill something
MariusJ [1k\]: never easy
EGC2015b [-\]: time left b 0:59 w 0:56
ofbusy [-\]: g15 seems ok to me
ofbusy [-\]: or not...
Steuer09 [-\]: i guess g15 then j13 cut will be too good for b
chrayma [7k\]: H16 ?
oreo [1d?\]: tesuji time
oreo [1d?\]: ^^
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;W[ge]
;B[hd]
;W[ig]C[Steuer09 [-\]: hmm ok i was wrong =)
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;B[oh]C[gogonuts [4d\]: h15 was a powerful strike
raskoln [1k\]: d7 in big dangour
gogonuts [4d\]: it looks like b is securing one group in sente
gogonuts [4d\]: while attacking w
gisel [2d\]: Nah, d7 small just sacrifice :p
gogonuts [4d\]: then, if he can come back to the lower center and fix, b doesnt look so bad
ogolony [-\]: k7 
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;W[pg]C[gogonuts [4d\]: very unfriendly fight for sente now
ogolony [-\]: p14 ?
noob1d [5d?\]: can't believe b allowed l9 
oreo [1d?\]: this cannot be good for b, fight two battle in the same time
]
;B[ph]
;W[od]C[ghaele [3d?\]: b figh only the upper now
raskoln [1k\]: o9?
jookeer3 [3d\]: 3 now
gogonuts [4d\]: b cannot leave the top
gogonuts [4d\]: needs a good result there
oreo [1d?\]: P17 ?
ofbusy [-\]: b allowed l9 but thats the only thing he allowed...
gogonuts [4d\]: q13/p16 was nice
gofrit [1k\]: why not a pincer ?
jookeer3 [3d\]: Can P17 be cut by Q17 ?
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;B[kn]C[ofbusy [-\]: oh-oh...
jookeer3 [3d\]: wow
jookeer3 [3d\]: sente ?
gogonuts [4d\]: ws strategy looks like paying off
]
;W[mo]
;B[mm]C[gogonuts [4d\]: moving this group while the top needs work was not ws hope
gogonuts [4d\]: not bs hope
jookeer3 [3d\]: How to kill R16 now :)
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;W[qc]C[ofbusy [-\]: maybe thomas would say " go is a game of dodging"
jookeer3 [3d\]: 5 separate groups = 1 dead
Ten [?\]: That should be six, not five
flobby [-\]: who has 5 groups?
jookeer3 [3d\]: to Fan it's 5
gofrit [1k\]: in France is 5 not 6 ^^
tuquedenne [4d\]: o9? is it too slow?
jookeer3 [3d\]: hehe :p
snowmen [4d\]: o9 is slow but proper
raskoln [1k\]: q6instead?
jookeer3 [3d\]: or R7 ?
jookeer3 [3d\]: W L17 next, 40 points in upper right
gogonuts [4d\]: I like o9 better too than answering r17 directly
jookeer3 [3d\]: O7 against O9 ?
gogonuts [4d\]: but then again ...
gogonuts [4d\]: try p6?
]
;B[re]C[gogonuts [4d\]: s15 ...
jookeer3 [3d\]: great!
gogonuts [4d\]: is that clever or stingy?
rocket [1d\]: i don´t see safe territory for w
jookeer3 [3d\]: but good potential
apro [-\]: :)
wry [1d\]: w territory will be all those dead b stones
rocket [1d\]: ok:-)
rocket [1d\]: wnhas to hurry to catch up
gogonuts [4d\]: still very complicated
gogonuts [4d\]: what to ultimately aim for
MariusJ [1k\]: white forced black to invade, now black forces white to kill
K5 [?\]: White pointe in LR look likely, L7 good target potential
]
;W[pd]C[Ten [?\]: You only need territory at the end of the game
gogonuts [4d\]: lol
rocket [1d\]: w n9 seems to split and attack
snowmen [4d\]: one group out of danger after r13
]
;B[rc]
;W[qe]
;B[rd]C[K5 [?\]: I think w will n9 soon
jookeer3 [3d\]: R14
Thumb [3d\]: W R13?
jookeer3 [3d\]: R13 better yes
K5 [?\]: r13 split in sente, then n9 for more splitting?
Thumb [3d\]: then maybe k11 k12 N10
]
;W[ic]C[Thumb [3d\]: the timing of such moves is way beyond me
K5 [?\]: k8 also thinkable as preparation
ofbusy [-\]: splitting is cool but w needs cash at some point
jookeer3 [3d\]: Well, B N12 is not dead yet, maybe it's better to wait befor playing R13
K5 [?\]: W catches whichever of the black plates stops spinning
]
;B[hc]C[Weishenme [4d\]: r13
gofrit [1k\]: maybe black change to the bottom after white respons
Weishenme [4d\]: r13 followed by n9
Thumb [3d\]: I'd have been tempted to play K17 instead of H17, to try to get a modicum of sente. Probably very silly.
]
;W[qo]C[gofrit [1k\]: rahh
ofbusy [-\]: THAT is cash
gogonuts [4d\]: no its not
rocket [1d\]: ok 5 points
gogonuts [4d\]: again miai attempt cash/attack
jookeer3 [3d\]: it's very thick, to attack n7
gogonuts [4d\]: w says: destroy my bottom and I will kill you
gogonuts [4d\]: and your children
rocket [1d\]: and your religion
Secil [6k?\]: Hmm, why didn't he keep up the offensive to gain advantage against E7 group,i am suprised.
ofbusy [-\]: sort of... a n9-like move would be reasonnable now
ofbusy [-\]: because if he doesnt catch it he might have nothing 
jookeer3 [3d\]: N9 is no points
jookeer3 [3d\]: Q7 ?
gogonuts [4d\]: secil, capturing was too small, and before it became enough b defended
Philogo [3k\]: R5 is an offensive move too
gofrit [1k\]: what about a move to try capturing g7 ?
gofrit [1k\]: sorry k4 (white group)
]
;B[qg]C[jookeer3 [3d\]: B forgot to save N 7?
flobby [-\]: capture k4?
gogonuts [4d\]: r13 is very aggressive defense :-)
noob1d [5d?\]: i feel b already lost the game
gogonuts [4d\]: b is saying that strengthening this is enough for the center group
jookeer3 [3d\]: J6 J7 K8 K7 N9
gofrit [1k\]: flobby something to have sente move to help build black
rocket [1d\]: b has 3 corners
gofrit [1k\]: with attack
MariusJ [1k\]: since he doesn't have to worry about H12 anymore, N7 is less weak
Weishenme [4d\]: n9 seems natural now
MariusJ [1k\]: and R18 is not sente anymore
raskoln [1k\]: r8 
ofbusy [-\]: i like r8 too
noob1d [5d?\]: j18 
noob1d [5d?\]: probably overplay to be fair
jookeer3 [3d\]: K16 maybe
wolokom [5k\]: yes i think so
noob1d [5d?\]: r8 can be good
raskoln [1k\]: r8 sente
ghaele [3d?\]: r8
noob1d [5d?\]: let black connect in gote and dame
MrVaga [1k\]: r8 l17 ?
jookeer3 [3d\]: N9 before R8 ?
]
;W[jd]C[Weishenme [4d\]: k2 ?
jookeer3 [3d\]: R7
MrVaga [1k\]: both q17 and k2 look really appealant
noob1d [5d?\]: r7 q7 risky
Weishenme [4d\]: yes
lovebach [5d?\]: r8 less risky
ofbusy [-\]: k2 seems good timin
raskoln [1k\]: time?
ofbusy [-\]: timing i meant
raskoln [1k\]: i mean time left
Weishenme [4d\]: O8
ofbusy [-\]: ah ok
jookeer3 [3d\]: W25 points on upper, not bad
oreo [1d?\]: b has q18
jookeer3 [3d\]: yes I counted it
oreo [1d?\]: how can u count 25 pts then, i wonder :-)
jookeer3 [3d\]: Maybe 23 :)
oreo [1d?\]: b has L15 ?
jookeer3 [3d\]: no, because of K12 wekness
noob1d [5d?\]: b q18 kind of yose tesuji
django [6k\]: can w cut at k12 .n12??
]
;B[nq]C[ofbusy [-\]: ahah that looks 100% insane
MariusJ [1k\]: !!
raskoln [1k\]: !
rocket [1d\]: b has to play a strong move and here it is:-)
manul [?\]: no
manul [?\]: it's only 98.3% insane
K5 [?\]: O3 looks exciting. My guess is , w has a plan here that B won't like
noob1d [5d?\]: this tells us b thinks he is behind
ofbusy [-\]: thats very possible w didnt even consider this move
]
;W[np]C[ofbusy [-\]: well the answer was fast
MrVaga [1k\]: o2 ?
MrVaga [1k\]: looks funky ^^
K5 [?\]: O2 is funky indeed.
K5 [?\]: L7 stones are getting nervous
]
;B[qq]C[Ten [?\]: Looks like black has a death wish
tuquedenne [4d\]: :)
]
;W[oq]C[tuquedenne [4d\]: noir désir
certes [2k\]: wants to die in the right bottom to profit for a large area in the middle right maybe... 
certes [2k\]: Homme trop pressé ? 
Welvang [6d\]: Nononono
Welvang [6d\]: Lololoi
fujiyama [8k\]: yes Ten, so if that, thomas will try to cut with m4 move?
]
;B[nl]C[fujiyama [8k\]: white has the choise R8 or p2 move?
K5 [?\]: Did B gain anything from the last couple of moves?
gogonuts [4d\]: "gain" is a big word
ofbusy [-\]: well he s looking for sente i guess
raskoln [1k\]: aji
]
;W[pl]C[gogonuts [4d\]: w keeps refusing to cash in
gogonuts [4d\]: he wants the points delivered to his door :-)
fujiyama [8k\]: i don't understand o8 black move either counter attack with p5  blacc?
Trucmuch [2d\]: R8 so good for w, b should play it ..
certes [2k\]: if white o8, would have been hard for n7 group to live... 
fujiyama [8k\]: thomas need to attack white failure q6 or so
noob1d [5d?\]: b may as well resign
Mitty [2k\]: does anyone also see o8 have a red circle?
noob1d [5d?\]: no
Mitty [2k\]: it appeal for only 1 second and disappeared
]
;B[ro]C[Mitty [2k\]: most likely my cgoban client's fault
Eilinen [-\]: Do you have cgoban h?
Mitty [2k\]: yes
Eilinen [-\]: Yeah if someone says coordinate and you hoover over it it will result red circle
Mitty [2k\]: I see, thanks
EGC2015b [-\]: time left w: 25m, b: 22m
]
;W[rp]
;B[qn]
;W[rn]C[fujiyama [8k\]: amazing thomas counter attack ^^
pancake [3d\]: Could he not live in the corner instead? 
pancake [3d\]: P2 O2 Q2 N3 S3
fujiyama [8k\]: thomas goal probably to settle the upper side
]
;B[po]C[liusasori [4d\]: r4 s7 t5 r7 and b has nice moyo
fyn [4k\]: how about t5 now?
liusasori [4d\]: maybe t5 r4 and fight
liusasori [4d\]: but maybe w could r4 s7 q6 r7 q7 
fujiyama [8k\]: white capture with t5
liusasori [4d\]: and w has a straight way in the black moyo
Warfreak2 [-\]: what black moyo
]
;W[so]
;B[qp]
;W[ro]C[NewVie [8k\]: why not r4 instead please ?
fujiyama [8k\]: haha no black moyo
]
;B[oo]C[gogonuts [4d\]: because b would get s7 atari
NewVie [8k\]: thanks
liusasori [4d\]: which lead b to a moyo
NewVie [8k\]: ok ok 
gogonuts [4d\]: q8 seems refuted ...
]
;W[op]
;B[qm]C[AurelienC [1d\]: It would not have been a moyo
liusasori [4d\]: w cant let b having s7
Hellhuman [1d?\]: the official tournament statistics is 8:1 for fan hui
Weishenme [4d\]: suddenly, I really prefer black
fujiyama [8k\]: but some surprise can arrive
liusasori [4d\]: s7 big for both
ofbusy [-\]: r8 possible ?
liusasori [4d\]: yes it is but I dislike the lack of liberties after s3
fujiyama [8k\]: for sure s3 threat is big
fyn [4k\]: B : points :: magician : rabbit
lovebach [5d?\]: q6 first  maybe
liusasori [4d\]: and i guess w will dislike it as well as s7 seems more solid and sente
GoRoGoRo [11k?\]: ofbusy [-\]: r8 possible ? .... yes: the two white stones have 5 liberties
K5 [?\]: s8?
liusasori [4d\]: and b can't answer s8 after
liusasori [4d\]: so i guess s7 r8 s8 r9 and w take sente to play elsewhere
]
;W[pn]C[vaansama [2d?\]: so expected
lovebach [5d?\]: yes!
liusasori [4d\]: but it was to passive i guess :)
vaansama [2d?\]: salut ugo
]
;B[pm]
;W[rm]C[fujiyama [8k\]: slut vaansame
]
;B[ql]C[vaansama [2d?\]: this exchange is better for w
]
;W[rl]C[fujiyama [8k\]: good black fight :)
]
;B[qk]C[liusasori [4d\]: k2 next ?
liusasori [4d\]: or r18 ?
Fabbo [7k?\]: I#d prefer K2
vaansama [2d?\]: smelling a fan ilya final
]
;W[on]C[Syxok [2d\]: can w get sente with j2
Welvang [6d\]: Jean louis !!!
vaansama [2d?\]: tu vas spammer tous les nom fr dans toutes les parties tanguy?:)
uolhdf: b ahead?
fujiyama [8k\]: salut tanguy ^^
]
;B[ke]
;W[je]
;B[kf]C[fujiyama [8k\]: bon thomas a plus d'un tour dans son sac :)
gofrit [1k\]: the review is beginning on the stream
gofrit [1k\]: by Li cong 2p
raskoln [1k\]: k12?
fujiyama [8k\]: thx gofrit what review?
gofrit [1k\]: https://youtu.be/Oi9WNBnJtvI
hashiga: m16?
fujiyama [8k\]: ok fun to look at this game review now :)
raskoln [1k\]: doesnt work in ger
raskoln [1k\]: m 13?
]
;W[kg]C[pandaah [2k\]: How much te left for them? 
]
;B[lg]C[pandaah [2k\]: Time*
]
;W[jg]
;B[mf]
;W[jh]C[tuquedenne [4d\]: resign sequence?
fujiyama [8k\]: i lood at this review the pro is commenting my internet comment ^^
vaansama [2d?\]: ups
]
;B[le]C[vaansama [2d?\]: ex-channge
fujiyama [8k\]: m15 powerfull move
fujiyama [8k\]: white in danger in the corner now
gofrit [1k\]: Fan est pensif ^^
asahin: top is reducable fast and bottom still wide open
fujiyama [8k\]: il y a de quoi
fujiyama [8k\]: whe lost vidao sound review?
Secil [6k?\]: Both Q16 and K16 groups might be under attack
gofrit [1k\]: yeah no sound
negesog [7k\]: How much time left? 
]
;W[ii]C[Miky [4k\]: EGC no more sound on youtube
Welvang [6d\]: Thomas french lover
fujiyama [8k\]: yes no sound on the commentary 
Trucmuch [2d\]: why not K11 ? or L11 ?
fujiyama [8k\]: k11 risky?
tchitchi [1d\]: Can i kick hui? yes we can !
AurelienC [1d\]: j11 reduce 1 lib
AurelienC [1d\]: reduces
Trucmuch [2d\]: yeah but what for ?
AurelienC [1d\]: e14 
gofrit [1k\]: black could live in west side ? seems difficult
vaansama [2d?\]: finalement ça sera peut etre ali le finaliste
AurelienC [1d\]: I guess
fujiyama [8k\]: its the game now
K5 [?\]: I was expecting l11. Seems B has more potential than we can read
certes [2k\]: w is expecting k11 maybe. 
]
;B[ji]
;W[ij]C[Trucmuch [2d\]: L17 ?
K5 [?\]: P18 ?
fujiyama [8k\]: k11 thomas very risk because black group disconnected
vaansama [2d?\]: it was..
ofbusy [-\]: without the sound i have the feeling some moves of the games are amusing the pro
Steuer09 [-\]: i'd say game ovre now
Welvang [6d\]: Marc jegou
fujiyama [8k\]: salut tanguy
fujiyama [8k\]: tu as gagné?
fujiyama [8k\]: if Thomas want semeai he connect l11
]
;B[lc]C[fujiyama [8k\]: thanks EGC whe have comment sound now
vaansama [2d?\]: w+ 15 liberty
vaansama [2d?\]: maybe
]
;W[md]C[fujiyama [8k\]: it look like an exchange between this corner and the 9 black stones
gofrit [1k\]: Black p18 seems cool
EGC2015b [-\]: black 5 m left
]
;B[kc]C[fujiyama [8k\]: 2 minuts for black
BlackSmurf [1k?\]: And w?
noob1d [5d?\]: p6 kyu move
Tschai [6k\]: b13
noob1d [5d?\]: so small
gofrit [1k\]: b 2:22 w 1:21 on stream
gofrit [1k\]: so they probably both near byoyomi
fujiyama [8k\]: yesp
fujiyama [8k\]: we can see the clock on the video
BlackSmurf [1k?\]: Thx.... 
]
;W[pb]C[fujiyama [8k\]: very hard game for both
gofrit [1k\]: mouarf Fan smile
]
;B[qb]C[fujiyama [8k\]: he won't smile if thomas conect  L11  :)
EGC2015b [-\]: w 5m left
Syxok [2d\]: egc2015b is there a 3rd place match?
fujiyama [8k\]: who win?
]
;W[oc]
;B[rb]C[gofrit [1k\]: yeah there is
tuquedenne [4d\]: +1124512
EGC2015b [-\]: w in byoomi
]
;W[ib]C[GoRoGoRo [11k?\]: @Syxok: http://egc2015.cz/results/main/playoffs
]
;B[bf]
;W[bg]
;B[be]
;W[cg]C[EGC2015b [-\]: there will be final and 3rd place match tomorrow
Tschai [6k\]: n17?
EGC2015b [-\]: b in byoomi
Syxok [2d\]: ty
]
;B[jc]
;W[id]
;B[nb]
;W[ir]C[fujiyama [8k\]: black +2 points?
]
;B[hq]
;W[iq]
;B[om]
;W[nn]
;B[rk]C[asahin: still playing ?
]
;W[mk]
;B[ki]C[kostuek [?\]: corpses everywhere, but the oard looks kinda clean
]
;W[ll]C[ofbusy [-\]: i think b + but my count isnt precise
fujiyama [8k\]: l11 now so semeai begin
]
;B[mn]
;W[fa]C[asahin: where a semeai ?
tuquedenne [4d\]: in fujiyama's head
fujiyama [8k\]: e13 stones aji
]
;B[eb]C[flobby [-\]: semeai is a capturing race
flobby [-\]: i think
fujiyama [8k\]: yes but innovative aji semai
justhinkin [1k\]: semedori?
]
;W[la]C[asahin: yep semedori
fujiyama [8k\]: like that
tuquedenne [4d\]: I count : 42 points for w in west side, 38 in south-east side. 87 points with komi?
]
;B[ka]
;W[kb]C[tuquedenne [4d\]: 12 points for black in SW, 14 in NW. Can he score more than 60 points in NE?
negesog [7k\]: N18
]
;B[jb]
;W[ja]
;B[ma]
;W[nk]C[fujiyama [8k\]: so tuquedess who lead this game?
]
;B[gp]
;W[go]C[flobby [-\]: so like
]
;B[gq]C[flobby [-\]: did w die
flobby [-\]: top right
fujiyama [8k\]: yes it seems
fyn [4k\]: they exchanged the top right for the left
fujiyama [8k\]: but left not decided yet because aji
asahin: a4 big
Meloe [-\]: what if B b12 ?
globax [3d\]: b 16 first
Thoravatar [1d\]: white left side is not 42 points, i believe, the semidor will cost some points 6-8 at least, or white needs a move to prevent it
globax [3d\]: e16*
]
;W[io]C[asahin: a13 bigger
herissondu [5d\]: wow what happened here
]
;B[hn]
;W[ho]C[cucaiduong [1k\]: k8
]
;B[il]C[noob1d [5d?\]: game is close
noob1d [5d?\]: but i think w winning slightly
HisokaH [-\]: w+3  ?
]
;W[jk]
;B[is]
;W[js]
;B[hs]
;W[jr]C[noob1d [5d?\]: a13 
asahin: taking all the sentes
noob1d [5d?\]: a4 good too
fujiyama [8k\]: p9
iphone4 [3d\]: a4 is black's privilege anyway
gofrit [1k\]: it's strange... the left side look like a non-combat zone sort of no-agression treaty 
herissondu [5d\]: if b can make a semedori, it would be great
Xylol [4k\]: its a bit sad ilya lost as he played a strong tournament up to today.
]
;B[ed]C[fyn [4k\]: B12 makes semedori all by itself, no?
fujiyama [8k\]: yes i suppose black semedori therisson whe will know that
K5 [?\]: e16 looks like aim at semidori
noob1d [5d?\]: even the best lose sometimes
Meloe [-\]: what is semidori ?
fujiyama [8k\]: how many points left by white with this semedori?
flobby [-\]: well depends on opponent. you'll never lose to me noob1d
asahin: forced capture
gogonuts [4d\]: b first has to keep w from making an eye
Meloe [-\]: ok thx
EGC2015b [-\]: last byoomi for w
noob1d [5d?\]: fan hui knows he is behind?
]
;W[ni]C[Xylol [4k\]: noob1d, i think he is pro
mnmn: semedori is when you live by killing an inside group, but you must remove the dead stones to live later when your libs becomes less
]
;B[ee]
;W[ef]C[Xylol [4k\]: maybe he counts once or twice a game..
eclaireur [3k\]: ??
fujiyama [8k\]: hah semedori again
asahin: ahem
mnmn: of course semedori is annoying because you must play in your own territory
flobby [-\]: and the important thing is you're filling in your own territory 
noob1d [5d?\]: o12 looks necessary
GameofWind [4d\]: b12 a13 g13 h14 f14 
Xylol [4k\]: who is the reviewer of ali ilya game?
uolhdf: g13 ?
daniug [2d\]: is fan behind?
noob1d [5d?\]: 3p chinese pro i believe
]
;B[nh]C[Tonight [3k?\]: 2p
rija [1d\]: 2p =)
GameofWind [4d\]: why not b12 
noob1d [5d?\]: what's his name
fyn [4k\]: review video says 2p, professionals page for the congress says 3p
]
;W[pj]C[fyn [4k\]: Li Cong
rija [1d\]: li cong
noob1d [5d?\]: li cong is 3p
]
;B[qj]
;W[pi]
;B[qi]C[fujiyama [8k\]: s3 threat?
]
;W[fe]C[BlackSmurf [1k?\]: Q5 is dead fuji
mnmn: i read s3 is a threat after t8
mnmn: i read q5 is alive, too.
eclaireur [3k\]: b12 many points semedori ?
]
;B[ag]
;W[ah]
;B[af]C[K5 [?\]: seems not
BlackSmurf [1k?\]: You do?
noob1d [5d?\]: b12 would lose points
]
;W[bh]C[fyn [4k\]: Q5 alive? not Q6?
mnmn: well, i may have made a mistake in my judgement about q5
K5 [?\]: M10?
noob1d [5d?\]: let me count.
]
;B[lb]C[SIscurge [4d\]: what happend in shikshins game?
herissondu [5d\]: no, don't count plz
kostuek [?\]: q5 is difficult l&d
Alenchon [6k\]: shikshin lost
mnmn: i agree, kos.
Meloe [-\]: he lost
BlackSmurf [1k?\]: Ali won
gogonuts [4d\]: i thought b would b11 instead of a13
SIscurge [4d\]: i know i meant how? points?
herissondu [5d\]: so the final will be ali-thomas
Song17 [4d?\]: Ali didn't give him any openings
Alenchon [6k\]: resign by shikshin
fyn [4k\]: fairly close, but he resigned before they counted
]
;W[mi]C[SIscurge [4d\]: i see thanks
apina [1d\]: fairly close = over ten points?
ubique [3d\]: B13 sure looks wasteful.
BlackSmurf [1k?\]: Do you think Thomas will win?
noob1d [5d?\]: clear win by w
fyn [4k\]: err okay, not fairly close then
]
;B[ok]C[pancake [3d\]: Isn't C11 really big stil?
]
;W[li]C[fyn [4k\]: (I never counted myself, I only have what the chat said)
]
;B[lh]C[HKane [4d\]: i think it's more like 5pts
noob1d [5d?\]: w+6
]
;W[pk]C[gogonuts [4d\]: b11 you mean?
]
;B[oi]C[pancake [3d\]: Yes
tuquedenne [4d\]: w will win by a few I'd say
]
;W[oj]C[Cornelius [-\]: About Kimi
]
;B[nj]C[HKane [4d\]: less than komi
]
;W[mj]
;B[ol]
;W[nj]C[ubique [3d\]: B11 looks useless, white B10.
Ten [?\]: Pancake, that black is dead
]
;B[ap]C[pancake [3d\]: But white doesn't have eyes either
]
;W[cn]C[Ten [?\]: Ah, it's connected
Ten [?\]: b11 b10 a11 c11 
]
;B[co]C[pancake [3d\]: aha ;)
]
;W[bn]C[Closemiss [2d\]: nothing there, yet
Ten [?\]: H14 is worth quite something
]
;B[kj]C[noob1d [5d?\]: e19 
tuquedenne [4d\]: @Ten: was a13 the best choice according to you? or should Thomas have started a semedori?
gogonuts [4d\]: so a13 was wrong, or not?
]
;W[ao]
;B[aq]C[Ten [?\]: Semedori looked better, yes
Trucmuch [2d\]: h14
Blencathra [6k\]: t9
Closemiss [2d\]: w has eye in semedori
justhinkin [1k\]: why is b12 loosing points? Doesn't it force to a semedori?
]
;W[jn]C[fujiyama [8k\]: very close game
Ten [?\]: Oh wait, hmm
Ten [?\]: Now a big difference in the end
Ten [?\]: *Not
noob1d [5d?\]: ten, why aren't u in the egc
]
;B[jm]C[HappyLook [5d\]: looks like w+3
Ten [?\]: Ok, I think a13 is correct
]
;W[in]C[Ten [?\]: HappyLook, I prefer the Japanese pro exam
]
;B[hl]
;W[ia]C[fyn [4k\]: wait, you're in japan again?
]
;B[ka]C[HKane [4d\]: ten, how do you rate your chances of passing?
Ten [?\]: For the past year and a half, almost
Ten [?\]: No comments there
fyn [4k\]: ah. thanks
noob1d [5d?\]: so you're an insei again?
Ten [?\]: Speculation is worthless
Ten [?\]: Insei, yes
Xylol [4k\]: have fun
globax [3d\]: h14 big
]
;W[dd]C[noob1d [5d?\]: good luck, would be nice to have another european japanese pro
eclaireur [3k\]: yes h14
]
;B[hf]C[telchar [-\]: b g13 didnt work, before w f15  ?
Weishenme [4d\]: b has 88 points
HKane [4d\]: fair enough, but knowing 1% or 50% should not be speculation, just educated guess :)
notevenbad [-\]: in what class ten?
]
;W[gg]C[fujiyama [8k\]: semedori again :)
Ten [?\]: Middle of A around now
rsg [5k\]: Sorry, who won between Ali and ilya?
notevenbad [-\]: cool
tuquedenne [4d\]: Ali did
fyn [4k\]: ali
noob1d [5d?\]: i think ten's chance of making it are high
Alenchon [6k\]: ALi
Xylol [4k\]: ilya
HKane [4d\]: strong ten
Xylol [4k\]: ups ali
tuquedenne [4d\]: middle of A? very strong, congrats
Ten [?\]: Thanks
herissondu [5d\]: b11 is 2 points
Xylol [4k\]: (have read lost)
]
;B[ea]C[herissondu [5d\]: or maybe not
rsg [5k\]: Thanks
]
;W[fd]C[HKane [4d\]: when does the japanese pro exam end?
herissondu [5d\]: it'es 1 point
]
;B[ec]C[K5 [?\]: B11 a11
Ten [?\]: It's from start of October to end of November
noob1d [5d?\]: btw, do you feel very stressful, ten?
HKane [4d\]: wow pretty long
Ten [?\]: I secured a spot already, so I'm just relaxing in A class before that
noob1d [5d?\]: previous inseis sometimes quit because of the pressure
HKane [4d\]: in china it only lasts 1-2 weeks
globax [3d\]: l16
Ten [?\]: ..."relaxing"
fujiyama [8k\]: S3 black interesting with ko threats ?
fyn [4k\]: Q5 is still dead
Closemiss [2d\]: c17 semedori now?
notevenbad [-\]: ten do your best don't let these kids scare you 
fyn [4k\]: S3 does nothing unless you want to live there
]
;W[bc]C[HKane [4d\]: wow
Xylol [4k\]: timesuji?
gofrit [1k\]: seriously ?
eclaireur [3k\]: lol
]
;B[cc]C[fujiyama [8k\]: impressive
Closemiss [2d\]: oh, worse
dude [?\]: serious point hurt
noob1d [5d?\]: c18 
]
;W[cb]C[gofrit [1k\]: seki search ?
HKane [4d\]: cut first
herissondu [5d\]: some sekidori
gogonuts [4d\]: :-) 
fujiyama [8k\]: sekidori a new term
noob1d [5d?\]: an actual semedori
GoRoGoRo [11k?\]: a16 = two eyes
dude [?\]: i think probably res
]
;B[bb]C[K5 [?\]: I wonder how Japanese speakers feel about our coinages
Xylol [4k\]: pretty K
gogonuts [4d\]: semi impressed :-) 
HKane [4d\]: k5 - i expect they just think they dont make any sense and are silly :p
eclaireur [3k\]: fan need time to think yose :)
HKane [4d\]: that's how it is with engalese
]
;W[ba]
;B[ab]
;W[ac]C[asahin: timesuji ?
dude [?\]: no
kostuek [?\]: sushi
]
;B[ga]
;W[gb]
;B[fb]
;W[hb]C[Closemiss [2d\]: b bolted
Ten [?\]: Two-point semedori, huh
fujiyama [8k\]: b11 ?
gogonuts [4d\]: c19?
]
;B[sl]C[Closemiss [2d\]: but now w also gets l16 safely
K5 [?\]: l16 was always white's
asahin: safely
]
;W[ad]C[gogonuts [4d\]: uh oh
noob1d [5d?\]: why didn't b a16 
kostuek [?\]: hihi
]
;B[da]C[K5 [?\]: C19
dude [?\]: if it's seki that costs a bit more
herissondu [5d\]: shape, plz
noob1d [5d?\]: wth
HKane [4d\]: b c19 would have turned stuff into ko
]
;W[sm]
;B[sk]C[eclaireur [3k\]: t7 later
fujiyama [8k\]: s3 later
noob1d [5d?\]: b lost
HKane [4d\]: b lost a long time ago
]
;W[kd]
;B[ld]C[HKane [4d\]: still, thomas played a good tournament
]
;W[lo]
;B[ca]C[vaansama [2d?\]: Ali won?
]
;W[aa]
;B[bb]
;W[ab]
;B[bd]C[Xylol [4k\]: wow
Xylol [4k\]: aga rules dame points is crazy endgame
fujiyama [8k\]: a well known form
HKane [4d\]: i wish w b18 was a nakade
]
;W[ci]C[bolbi [-\]: yes, Ali won
]
;B[ae]C[eclaireur [3k\]: no need b16??
]
;W[no]
;B[ml]
;W[lk]
;B[bb]C[herissondu [5d\]: fan  hwins
EGC2015b [-\]: filling dame
justhinkin [1k\]: nakade?
notevenbad [-\]: dead shape
Xylol [4k\]: http://senseis.xmp.net/?Nakade
fujiyama [8k\]: who win
Xylol [4k\]: w
Fabbo [7k?\]: SE says it is blacks win
HKane [4d\]: W+4.5
fujiyama [8k\]: black + 2 in the counting kgzs
Xylol [4k\]: SE is always right but not in AGA
kostuek [?\]: se is drunk
theolddan [2d\]: SE not EGF certifies
theolddan [2d\]: certified
AA76 [10k\]: la finale a lieue demain?
AA76 [10k\]: svp
bolbi [-\]: oui, regarde les infos du scribe
zudko [3k\]: oué demain meme heure
AA76 [10k\]: merci
notevenbad [-\]: g9 needed right?
fyn [4k\]: I get w+2
EGC2015b [-\]: w+ 4points
fujiyama [8k\]: oh
Xylol [4k\]: thx EGC
gofrit [1k\]: w+3.5 on stream
gogonuts [4d\]: thx
fujiyama [8k\]: good game for both
fyn [4k\]: thanks for the relay
Alenchon [6k\]: ty EGC
ofbusy [-\]:  ok thx egc
bibi719 [1k\]: thx
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