(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[9000]OT[3x60 byo-yomi]
GN[European Championship 2015 (top 24) -r1 (w) Fan Hui (b) Jan Simara]PW[Fan Hui]PB[Jan Simara]WR[2p]BR[6d]DT[2015-07-26]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[TurtleDove [5k\]: these events rarely start on time. probably still in make-up ;)
EGC2015a [-\]: welcome here,  yes  you are right, the pairings still missing
EGC2015a [-\]: but there is great chance tthat will be play here Fan hui x Jan Simara
Nyanjilla [-\]: when I see the pairings are up, I'll Event and Announce....
EGC2015a [-\]: Thank you, it will be see when i update names 
Nirvanc [2k\]: Hello !
manul [?\]: Goodbye
kostuek [?\]: behave manul, evil cat
Nirvanc [2k\]: Is somebody selling eyes ?
manul [?\]: o_O
manul [?\]: i'm not evil
Nirvanc [2k\]: I need to read (and live)
TurtleDove [5k\]: nothing on the video stream yet (youtube)
snowy [1d\]: there is a stream?
manul [?\]: http://www.egc2015.cz/stream
bolbi [-\]: chech EGC2015a's profile
bolbi [-\]: check
Nyanjilla [-\]: Czech...
TurtleDove [5k\]: :D
snowy [1d\]: :D
kostuek [?\]: guys.. pls twitch next time... youtube streaming is blocked in germany :(
EGC2015a [-\]: why you have block youtube?
Reym [-\]: kostuek, you can try a firefox addon like One Click Proxy
kostuek [?\]: there are some copyrights issues egc2015a
Reym [-\]: in germany there is a dispute between youtube and the copyrights holders, as a result there is no live streaming possible to germany
kostuek [?\]: yes, i'm searching right now reym
Reym [-\]: twitch or ustream would be better
bitzi [-\]: germans, always so serious about everything
daniug [2d\]: 1 game per round broadcasted?
EGC2015a [-\]: 4 game per round
daniug [2d\]: egc 2015 a,b,c,d?
kostuek [?\]: well, you can't rule the world another way, right bitzi? wait... i never said that
bolbi [-\]: yes daniug
Nyanjilla [-\]: *ahem*
daniug [2d\]: thx
EGC2015a [-\]: yes 
EGC2015a [-\]: and broadcastng game is not like board 1 to 4, we pick board with nice players
Nyanjilla [-\]: heheh
kostuek [?\]: poor evil players
SIshaman [?\]: we want true champion !
SIshaman [?\]: Simara back on the throne
TurtleDove [5k\]: you could start the video stream and we could watch the players arrive
EGC2015a [-\]: he will be broadcast here 
EGC2015a [-\]: streaming servers and people are in other rooms, 
TurtleDove [5k\]: Fan Hui won last 2 years. hard to beat
EGC2015a [-\]: but try call them
Nyanjilla [-\]: don't distract the scribes too much, folks
EGC2015a [-\]: its still time :-)
bolbi [-\]: Fan hui just lost two games in the european team championship
bolbi [-\]: he played 3 games
TurtleDove [5k\]: hmm. not so hard to beat :)
EGC2015a [-\]: our stream will start in few minutes (hope)
EGC2015a [-\]: dont know where he was in hotel :-)
SIshaman [?\]: king is only one 
bitzi [-\]: maybe he just conserved his true strength for the main tournament
snowy [1d\]: stream starts
TurtleDove [5k\]: yay, I see boards and players
Reym [-\]: yeah! me too!
snowy [1d\]: where are the kgs superstars
bitzi [-\]: MM not there
Nyanjilla [-\]: tilted....
TurtleDove [5k\]: woow, there's hundreds in the hall
Woods [6d\]: Hi,pairings of the whole main tournament anywhere?
Nyanjilla [-\]: it's a huge event, TD
snowy [1d\]: are those the kyus?
manul [?\]: i have the pairings
manul [?\]: but i'm not allowed to shot it to anyone
Liso66 [?\]: no sound...
Reym [-\]: weird cam
bitzi [-\]: there is a guy in the hall who looks just like nie weiping ...
snowy [1d\]: hi gramps
snowy [1d\]: i think i just saw harry potter
manul [?\]: you did
Lyoug [3k\]: welvang and fan hui in the center ?
Reym [-\]: mateuz is easy to spot
Reym [-\]: motoki table 5?
Lyoug [3k\]: is mateus the one wearing the Surma shirt?
Nyanjilla [-\]: everyone leaving????
TurtleDove [5k\]: the balcony seems popular
kostuek [?\]: photo?
Lyoug [3k\]: pairings announced?
TurtleDove [5k\]: msot likely or the food has arrived :)
TurtleDove [5k\]: most
Nyanjilla [-\]: hehehe
kostuek [?\]: that's lot of people
Liso66 [?\]: everybody is playing in one room?
EGC2015a [-\]: yes pairings is annouced
Reym [-\]: thanks
EGC2015a [-\]: people are sitting and we are starting
TurtleDove [5k\]: I like Artem. he always arrives on time, ready to play
snowy [1d\]: nice and punctual :)
Muttley [3k\]: Hmmm, I can't find Gu Li.
]RE[W+Resign]
;B[qd]
;W[pp]C[snowy [1d\]: is gu li really here? lol
EGC2015a [-\]: i dindt see him
Muttley [3k\]: hehe, the real game is on now :)
]
;B[dd]C[gogonuts [4d\]: gu is using a secret name, ofc
Muttley [3k\]: its a joke, sorry
]
;W[cp]C[fatih [4d?\]: hi all
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;B[oc]C[lxlx [-\]: Both players are former european champions, right?
EGC2015a [-\]: y
snowy [1d\]: who won last year?
Muttley [3k\]: Fan Hui
]
;W[qi]C[TurtleDove [5k\]: last 2 years
]
;B[ep]C[snowy [1d\]: i wonder how fan vs ilya will be like now
EGC2015a [-\]: http://egc2015.cz/results
gogonuts [4d\]: i dont like the direction of the b shimari
]
;W[eq]C[EGC2015a [-\]: its complete pairings
EGC2015a [-\]: online stream: http://egc2015.cz/stream
snowy [1d\]: i don't know fuseki at all :<
bfm [-\]: http://senseis.xmp.net/?MarkIIKobayashiFormation
fatih [4d?\]: it seems like a boring opening 
gogonuts [4d\]: deliberately boring :-)
gogonuts [4d\]: b d4 would change that
leachy [2k\]: right fair chance of avalanche here
Reym [-\]: Kim, Young-Sam (7 Dan) vs Li, Yue (5 Dan), tough start for Li Yue!
]
;B[fq]C[Woods [6d\]: miao also got some 7dan
Woods [6d\]: Tho unknow for me
fatih [4d?\]: black wants to make it simple
agameaday [1d\]: is this round 1?
bolbi [-\]: yes
TurtleDove [5k\]: 1 of 11
bolbi [-\]: look at the scribe's profile
kostuek [?\]: d3 hard to find
Muttley [3k\]: you can play e2 also
fatih [4d?\]: maybe away from board
fatih [4d?\]: or wants to make his opponent nervous
TurtleDove [5k\]: sometimes they wander off. he may not be at the table
agameaday [1d\]: thanks bolbi
]
;W[dq]
;B[fp]
;W[cn]
;B[jp]C[CrabStone [2d\]: O3?
fatih [4d?\]: o3 or m3 are expected 
CrabStone [2d\]: Is simara b or w? In on my phone
Muttley [3k\]: blck
SIshaman [?\]: m3 is super important in this opening
Tonight [3k?\]: Who is vs ali?
EGC2015a [-\]: http://egc2015.cz/results/main
EGC2015a [-\]: pairings
chestr [1d\]: n3 ?
]
;W[lq]C[fatih [4d?\]: tenuki?
EGC2015a [-\]: simara is looking on corner
SIshaman [?\]: he has to, answer is slow
kostuek [?\]: resist w's thin corner?
SIshaman [?\]: d14 ok 
SIshaman [?\]: srry c14 :)
]
;B[qn]C[mate105 [1d\]: Which round is this?
EGC2015a [-\]: 1 round
kostuek [?\]: can't resist
mate105 [1d\]: Thanks
mate105 [1d\]: And this is board 1?
EGC2015a [-\]: board 2
]
;W[qp]
;B[qk]
;W[qf]C[fatih [4d?\]: still boring
EGC2015a [-\]: we are picking interesting games
EGC2015a [-\]: we hope so they will be interesting
fatih [4d?\]: :)
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;B[pg]C[EGC2015a [-\]: broadcasting http://egc2015.cz/stream
EGC2015a [-\]: pairings: http://egc2015.cz/results/main
Lice [4d\]: go ali!
Hellblom [4k\]: when will the finals be?
bolbi [-\]: could you read the scribe's profile, please ?
Hellblom [4k\]: ok :)
]
;W[rd]C[gogonuts [4d\]: some action with q16?
mate105 [1d\]: Nice.
gogonuts [4d\]: i tremble to criticize, but q16 looks slightly better
gogonuts [4d\]: w should get q16 for q17 extra
bitzi [-\]: so you think he did not consider playing q16?
Lice [4d\]: ha bitzi from online go
gogonuts [4d\]: i know, i should just trust :-)
Lice [4d\]: i wouldn't rush to trust fan hui on moves like this
Lice [4d\]: at times of this sort, i always ask my self; what would Shi Yue play?
]
;B[rc]
;W[pd]C[kostuek [?\]: does it help?
Lice [4d\]: no he too stronk
CrabStone [2d\]: WWSYP
]
;B[pc]C[Lice [4d\]: q17? Oo
]
;W[qe]
;B[qc]C[Lice [4d\]: shi yue would not play that
drchaos [2k\]: too good for white ?
Lice [4d\]: q17 at r17 is the standard..
gogonuts [4d\]: this doesnt seem right for b now
ofbusy [-\]: looks a little submissive
gogonuts [4d\]: i guess either s17 or q17 at r17
TurtleDove [5k\]: if B gets p15, he might be happy with the result ?
gogonuts [4d\]: like this w got the full set of forcing moves
Lice [4d\]: s12 looks nice now
theolddan [2d\]: w p14 now?
kostuek [?\]: i would be tempted to come back to r13 tho
storn [2k\]: Who play?
theolddan [2d\]: b p14 would be stressing
gogonuts [4d\]: s12 for me
Lice [4d\]: p14 s12 ?
Lice [4d\]: s12 key point
theolddan [2d\]: or b p15
theolddan [2d\]: so i would do p14
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;W[rh]C[bolbi [-\]: balck Drean-Guenaizia, Benjamin (6 Dan) white Lisy, Pavol (8 Dan)
gogonuts [4d\]: this makes b q11 ineffective
gogonuts [4d\]: so w is happy
bolbi [-\]: oups sorry, wrong game
storn [2k\]: Bolbi, thanks
Lice [4d\]: ha bolbi you troll
bolbi [-\]: i'm wrong
Lice [4d\]: we are on to you
storn [2k\]: Ehm?
bolbi [-\]: black Simara, Jan (6 Dan) white Fan, Hui (8 Dan)
Lice [4d\]: why they don't showin' ali's game?
theolddan [2d\]: ok b wont go to q13 now if he had the choice
storn [2k\]: Thx
bolbi [-\]: you're welcome
EGC2015a [-\]: because we are 4 people and we want broadcasting few czech/slovakia player, some veterans and so on. There are so many interesting games that picking 4 games is hard
EGC2015a [-\]: But i think Ali will be tommorrow 
Lice [4d\]: i think the guideline for picking should be picking ali and then deciding 3 more
Lice [4d\]: cause ali pwns
SIshaman [?\]: Shamira owns Ali by a lot 
fatih [4d?\]: thx for the relay anyway, it will make the monday at work easier tomorrow
TurtleDove [5k\]: can B play p15 or so or does r9 need attention ?
kostuek [?\]: maybe p6 a move
Lice [4d\]: hmm i don't wanna p5 but don't see any better choise
gogonuts [4d\]: b needs to complicate
gogonuts [4d\]: maybe o15?
Lice [4d\]: nah...
gogonuts [4d\]: a move directly for ul seems too passive
gogonuts [4d\]: even g16
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;B[pi]C[gogonuts [4d\]: w will hane
gogonuts [4d\]: when things went a little badly, an overplay is usually not the best way to straighten things out
theolddan [2d\]: does hane really work for w?
]
;W[ph]C[lxlx [-\]: see? hane :-)
kostuek [?\]: mirror hane
gogonuts [4d\]: i couldnt do it
gogonuts [4d\]: ofc the connection is nice
gogonuts [4d\]: but bs ponnuki will threaten s13
UrriS [4k\]: is r13 bad?
theolddan [2d\]: q12 looks like trick
gogonuts [4d\]: dunno :-)
theolddan [2d\]: so shouldnt work
leachy [2k\]: right b p12 q10 r12 r10 s13 
TurtleDove [5k\]: W lives, B gets a pretty nice wall most likely
leachy [2k\]: is ko
agameaday [1d\]: w will obviously live, but will b get a wall?
gogonuts [4d\]: I'm thinking like an accountant here, but to me q12 is too fancy to play in a good position
leachy [2k\]: but black has no really good ko threats
kostuek [?\]: if this future ponnuki really appears it will sit there like a boss
gogonuts [4d\]: maybe fan hui is an expert simara psychologist, and b wont play p12 :-)
rsun [4d\]: p12 only move?
gogonuts [4d\]: to me yes
leachy [2k\]: b p12 q10 r12 r10 and then after s13 r13 s11 q12, black hasn't any good enough ko threats for mine so black will have to keep the s13 idea in reserve and defend the r6 group
theolddan [2d\]: p12 r12 q10 likely now
rsun [4d\]: I guess the profit in attacking r6 group is bigger than the s13 loss, which is just a ko
theolddan [2d\]: with some chance of w q10 suddenly
theolddan [2d\]: but if q10 then w shouls have hane in first place
TurtleDove [5k\]: I never played a 5 hour game. I wonder if there is a temptation to overthink at times
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;B[oh]
;W[pj]
;B[qh]
;W[qj]
;B[oj]
;W[pk]
;B[ok]
;W[pl]
;B[nm]C[leachy [2k\]: well i can't believe b just sacrificed r6
theolddan [2d\]: yes r6 too big
]
;W[on]C[TurtleDove [5k\]: agree. seems gives W way too much for a wall
theolddan [2d\]: and o7 not worth that much in this position
theolddan [2d\]: also ko at s13 looses value like this
theolddan [2d\]: things go much in w favour now
rsun [4d\]: J16
aiken23 [4k\]: W got points but b has advantage in future fighting. 
rsun [4d\]: w 55 points
theolddan [2d\]: b must set up moyo 
theolddan [2d\]: dont see how he will do so
rsun [4d\]: must defend top first
rsun [4d\]: w split then game over
theolddan [2d\]: yes a move around j16 must be
EGC2015a [-\]: sorry
rsun [4d\]: was that zen?
theolddan [2d\]: but still  too much open in the center
Baobab [2d\]: l13 is nice idea EGC :o)
SIshaman [?\]: actually r6 might have some aji left
aiken23 [4k\]: Yea I was thinking that was an interesting move
SIshaman [?\]: depends on the ko at s13
kostuek [?\]: k16 seems moyo like. hard defense
EGC2015a [-\]: both players just left chairs
EGC2015a [-\]: only Fan is near by.
Baobab [2d\]: toilets time 
TurtleDove [5k\]: EGC, is there a lunch break in the game or just play through ?
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;B[nn]C[EGC2015a [-\]: there is lunch break only if both players agree
]
;W[oo]C[TurtleDove [5k\]: ok
ofbusy [-\]: so forcing the opponent into hunger could be a tactic
TurtleDove [5k\]: lol
theolddan [2d\]: but at the pain of suffering from hunger also
]
;B[mp]C[EGC2015a [-\]: Simara great wall
theolddan [2d\]: one woll is not even quater moyo
theolddan [2d\]: wall
TurtleDove [5k\]: hmm, did he plan this whole sequence to attack the weak m3 ?
UrriS [4k\]: there is pretension to 2 walls ^^
ofbusy [-\]: well m3 cant be cut
theolddan [2d\]: although n4 is weak point in shape
migliore: b is the strongest chechk?
theolddan [2d\]: here it only serves to put some more forcing moves for building somehow moyo
]
;W[lp]C[theolddan [2d\]: ah fan resist that plan ; very dangerous
EGC2015a [-\]: we have 4 x 6dan in czechia
EGC2015a [-\]: only 3 are playing
theolddan [2d\]: n4 might become winnning move like this
aiken23 [4k\]: B is not thinking giant moyo. Simply trading influence for territory.
theolddan [2d\]: w isnt connected and heavy
]
;B[mq]C[theolddan [2d\]: but n3 is also heavy
UrriS [4k\]: forcing moves will soon run out
theolddan [2d\]: would have expected o3 
]
;W[lo]C[fatih [4d?\]: p3?
kostuek [?\]: w to fight and live
TurtleDove [5k\]: just n5 for me. leave W with the problem
theolddan [2d\]: like p3 more
theolddan [2d\]: the question is will w get n2 hane sente
theolddan [2d\]: he is likely to get it anyway
theolddan [2d\]: but p3 might have some followup moves like r2 or p4 later
theolddan [2d\]: to p3 i like it more
]
;B[mo]C[agameaday [1d\]: p3 seems to leave an ugly shape.
aiken23 [4k\]: P3 also made m3 stronger I think
agameaday [1d\]: turtle is promoted to 2p
kostuek [?\]: cngr
TurtleDove [5k\]: haha, lucky guess 
]
;W[lm]C[fatih [4d?\]: i didnt like black here
UrriS [4k\]: me too
theolddan [2d\]: tome to play ko now?
theolddan [2d\]: time
theolddan [2d\]: b is likely to win
agameaday [1d\]: ko??
theolddan [2d\]: and then he is safe with profit
theolddan [2d\]: s13
theolddan [2d\]: ant the cut at p8 would go away as a bonus
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;B[jq]C[kostuek [?\]: hm, if b tries to kill, he may end with no points, and the other way f4 becomes lonely
theolddan [2d\]: b has a least a chance to kill w now
theolddan [2d\]: so m5 i think was overplay
TurtleDove [5k\]: well at least the n4 stones reduce W gain from r6 dead to reasonable proportions so B not too bad
theolddan [2d\]: m4 i mean
bitzi [-\]: ko is super heavy for black and relatively light for white
gogonuts [4d\]: with k3, b is very probably not unhappy
kostuek [?\]: i like k3, so patient
gogonuts [4d\]: w made some nice territory on the right, but lost territory on the bottom - and bs outside stones look a lot better than ws outside "stick"
TurtleDove [5k\]: agree. is W p8 and cut a nuisance ?
yukinosita [5d\]: p8 is a suck move...
yukinosita [5d\]: s13 ko is also a sick
kostuek [?\]: is this an old japanese term?
]
;W[mn]C[UrriS [4k\]: sick or suck? ^^
ofbusy [-\]: lol
lxlx [-\]: hm, seems hard to learn from this game...
yukinosita [5d\]: well......
profan [-\]: it's not for you, is for the game :)
yukinosita [5d\]: it is not for anything, they just love the game !!
ofbusy [-\]: b is rather spirited which is cool
]
;B[no]C[godevilgo [4k?\]: What is the reason behind N6?
profan [-\]: sure, but complication is becuse of the game not because of you
]
;W[jo]C[profan [-\]: protecting cut
profan [-\]: in sente?
profan [-\]: sente is japanese term :) 
yukinosita [5d\]: When is FanHui 's peak time? 
yukinosita [5d\]: It seems now it is not a news that someone beat him..is it?
yukinosita [5d\]: I heard FanHui was very difficult for europeans to beat him in a time
gitpush [7k\]: go fan
gogonuts [4d\]: can b k7?
Komulink38 [1k\]: i like K5 but i don't understand the aim of N6
aiken23 [4k\]: Maybe concerned with cut
yukinosita [5d\]: n6 is just for this k5
Komulink38 [1k\]: what if we just play K5 ?
leachy [2k\]: if w omitted n6 then b l6 is stronger 
profan [-\]: there is another cut in p8 w probably want to keep threat for later?
Najaye [1k?\]: you mean m6? leachy?
Hrewsahgs [1k\]: k5 alone should be enough to protect the cut
leachy [2k\]: l6 threatens the m6 cut (and l5)
gogonuts [4d\]: simplest is prob m9
gogonuts [4d\]: lets w off the hook, but its a nice direction
yukinosita [5d\]: I guess l6 is still annoying if just k5
profan [-\]: after m2 maybe some trick around l6?
leachy [2k\]: right, that's the point of n6 first
godevilgo [4k?\]: thanks
theolddan [2d\]: l6 necessary now
rsun [4d\]: exchange p7
leachy [2k\]: now if b played l6, then l5 m6 n7 etc.
Komulink38 [1k\]: yes i see now
yukinosita [5d\]: did Jan get strong after came back from china?
]
;B[om]
;W[pm]C[rsun [4d\]: bingo
]
;B[lk]
;W[io]C[gogonuts [4d\]: m9 is such a nice point, cant blame b for not attacking harder
profan [-\]: is j5 sente?
gogonuts [4d\]: sentish
gogonuts [4d\]: :-)
ostreich: followup ?
migliore: b traded territory for thin air
migliore: haha
profan [-\]: f7?
theolddan [2d\]: sentish korean?
gogonuts [4d\]: lol
yukinosita [5d\]: the follow up is w just pass from the bottom to go back corner for a great yose
gogonuts [4d\]: "almost sente"
gogonuts [4d\]: it means "I don't know"
yukinosita [5d\]: also took away b 's eye 
leachy [2k\]: sentish: when it smells of sente :)
yukinosita [5d\]: gogonuts I teach you a new technology
migliore: b resign soon
ostreich: if b intends to develop the top he cant let those stones weak
kostuek [?\]: how soon
yukinosita [5d\]: when you don't know what is mean by a move, just say ''ko''
ostreich: like bluetable ?
gogonuts [4d\]: even the kyus know that one:-)
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;B[em]C[migliore: kostu: j5 too good, no chance now
profan [-\]: how is real clock on board?
gogonuts [4d\]: its actually a very good trick
gogonuts [4d\]: works often
profan [-\]: any camweb?
EGC2015a [-\]: cant see them
gogonuts [4d\]: and if not - players mistake :-)
EGC2015a [-\]: only youtube stream
yukinosita [5d\]: gogo , When dan using it , it is more powerful to make ppl believe 
gogonuts [4d\]: lol
leachy [2k\]: bluetable fails the turing test
kostuek [?\]: i think w has some more work here migliore
ostreich: w bottom group seems pretty weak now, the l6 poke looks troublesome to me
migliore: only picking up the pieces
profan [-\]: now what is better to protect side or center?
yukinosita [5d\]: time to brend coffee... 
ostreich: blend ?
migliore: w make his group strong, enter the middle, no more b influence
yukinosita [5d\]: yeah. . .
gogonuts [4d\]: for me w k9
yukinosita [5d\]: s13 is kinda a problem but...
yukinosita [5d\]: after Move100 maybe
ostreich: looks like b has more to loose with this ko, but what about the threats ?
yukinosita [5d\]: not now...
tonyho [1d\]: h3?
yukinosita [5d\]: they are creating it as an issue 
kostuek [?\]: usually they pick at every weak point first, so.. maybe h4?
rsun [4d\]: h3 is almost yose
ostreich: h2 :)
yukinosita [5d\]: b is the side to create it..w is the side to defend
gogonuts [4d\]: maybe the move at the bottom is k2 - but as i said, for me k9
yukinosita [5d\]: but I would say b need more workload to go with it
rsun [4d\]: w must move out
ostreich: cant w keep sente here ?
aiken23 [4k\]: I like b. B is calm.
rsun [4d\]: every move is sente - after your opponent plays it's your turn again
yukinosita [5d\]: I feel there must be some 1-2nd ine tesuji which contains an hidden eye locally for w
yukinosita [5d\]: k2. . .
yukinosita [5d\]: I guess
yukinosita [5d\]: when very in need
]
;W[jk]C[gogonuts [4d\]: one for gogo
ostreich: good call
rsun [4d\]: gogo can compete in pro test next year
kostuek [?\]: stronk gogo
gogonuts [4d\]: have been getting bad at guessing lately
daniug [2d\]: will all the results be displayed at once tonight or as far as they finish?
yukinosita [5d\]: really?
leachy [2k\]: bottom does seem complicated but not playable now
rsun [4d\]: k10 or k11
yukinosita [5d\]: oh...
ostreich: c8 ?
yukinosita [5d\]: I don't read gogo speak faster than me...
rsun [4d\]: type
]
;B[ji]C[gogonuts [4d\]: now comes a tough one
rsun [4d\]: j17
gogonuts [4d\]: for me too
leachy [2k\]: right can white tenuki here
rsun [4d\]: w will have to pay for tenuki
gogonuts [4d\]: but I'm so slack, I don't trust myself :-)
rsun [4d\]: split now or never
gogonuts [4d\]: hm
gogonuts [4d\]: on second thought, I prefer f17
rsun [4d\]: what if b h17
gogonuts [4d\]: with j17 ul can get huge
kostuek [?\]: this ko getting worse
rsun [4d\]: will you h16 then?
leachy [2k\]: if w defends with g8 then is d8 sente?
gogonuts [4d\]: I changed my mind
gogonuts [4d\]:  want to start at f17
leachy [2k\]: i mean if w plays two moves there (g8 and d8)
rsun [4d\]: yes, f17 h17, then?
gogonuts [4d\]: j17 is depressing with b g17
gogonuts [4d\]: jump, i guess
ostreich: cant w e9ish ?
gogonuts [4d\]: the sequence the joseki books says don't play, but everybody does :-)
rsun [4d\]: but you can't do that shoulder hit joseki
gogonuts [4d\]: who says I cant? :-)
rsun [4d\]: so you only pull out a string of dame
rsun [4d\]: shoulder hit, b will certainly push cut
gogonuts [4d\]: f17 h17 f15 d14 j16 h16 h15 j15 j17 j18 h18 ect
gogonuts [4d\]: and dont forget to pray :-)
gogonuts [4d\]: i agree it's fishy
gogonuts [4d\]: but ws position just isnt very good at the moment
rsun [4d\]: I think b has too much support outside
leachy [2k\]: i wish sometimes that josekis all had names so you wouldn't have to give the sequence
kostuek [?\]: like karo-can
rsun [4d\]: that would outnumber all european common names
leachy [2k\]: exactly kostuek
]
;W[gm]C[Gumiho [3k\]: dragon sicilian is better
gogonuts [4d\]: interesting
leachy [2k\]: i missed (g8)....
kostuek [?\]: let's say to lower left corner dragon sicilian from now on
rsun [4d\]: w hopes to solidify a bit more, then go to the top
gogonuts [4d\]: helps the group, and aims at e6 ofc - and if b d5 later b c8 is devalued
gogonuts [4d\]: so w gets permission to play this :-)
liusasori [4d\]: here w is ahead by around 25 but he has big weakness at s13 and no outside power
ostreich: g7 looks severe
liusasori [4d\]: yeah g7 shows pro spirit "I'm not the one under attack: it's you"
rsun [4d\]: w has no potential, so the rest of the game is just reduction, invasion, parachute
rsun [4d\]: submarine, etc
ostreich: parachute ?
Baobab [2d\]: landmine ?
ostreich: isnt it shogi ?
liusasori [4d\]: all of a sudden, f4 group not look so strong despite the expense of 6 moves
rsun [4d\]: f7 makes a super bamboo
Baobab [2d\]: parachute exists in go too
ostreich: cool
Baobab [2d\]: but i have doubt about submarines
rsun [4d\]: what's your doubt?
ostreich: those do exist too
Baobab [2d\]: it sounded like a joke :)
rsun [4d\]: some people use the word sea to describe a moyo
gogonuts [4d\]: there has to be something good for b
gogonuts [4d\]: but where? :-)
rsun [4d\]: f7 - GM bamboo
]
;B[do]
;W[co]C[gogonuts [4d\]: nothing genius, so he played the obvious
]
;B[ek]C[gogonuts [4d\]: bs first duty was not to let w turn the tables
ofbusy [-\]: b still has a nice power in the center
rsun [4d\]: w can tenuki
leachy [2k\]: yes now is the time to tenuki
rsun [4d\]: only 13p and se can kill w, and b is neither of them
gogonuts [4d\]: g7 was a good question, and p prob answered correctly
q11 [4d\]: b plqy this game reminds me a bit of when he beat ilya to win egc
]
;W[hj]C[leachy [2k\]: especially if w can make an eye on the edge (i still don't see how that works)
ofbusy [-\]: thats more reasonnable
ofbusy [-\]: you amateurs ;p
leachy [2k\]: hmm well i guess this is a reduction of sorts as well
rsun [4d\]: if b h12 w will j17
gogonuts [4d\]: maybe there is something better, but h12 is not one of the worst
]
;B[hh]
;W[fj]C[rsun [4d\]: G16
agameaday [1d\]: who's leading?
]
;B[ej]C[rsun [4d\]: no one knows
gogonuts [4d\]: b afraid for the bottom
]
;W[fi]C[gogonuts [4d\]: ?
]
;B[dh]C[liusasori [4d\]: w has more points and b more outside power
rsun [4d\]: isn't top > left
gogonuts [4d\]: i would have prefered f12 to e10
EGC2015a [-\]: its still early age
Baobab [2d\]: i don't really understand these last moves
EGC2015a [-\]: for determinating score
Baobab [2d\]: yes
EGC2015a [-\]: its look like kyus moves :-D
Baobab [2d\]: yeah kind of
]
;W[fg]C[rsun [4d\]: w walks in park now
agameaday [1d\]: so rsun is saying easy game for w?
]
;B[fd]C[kostuek [?\]: b will need this s13 business
rsun [4d\]: h12 k11 stones not working
leachy [2k\]: now top....
gogonuts [4d\]: b is taking w for a drive around town
gogonuts [4d\]: but i think w will get off now
agameaday [1d\]: i knew it. 4ds must speak another language.
gogonuts [4d\]: simple h17?
gogonuts [4d\]: lol
ofbusy [-\]: thats a difficult one to guess
]
;W[kj]
;B[lh]
;W[gf]C[gogonuts [4d\]: w too systematic now for my taste
rsun [4d\]: w counted 33 enough to win
gogonuts [4d\]: lol
ostreich: kosumi kosumi
]
;B[he]C[ofbusy [-\]: yeah i have the feelin w didnt overthink this
Insei [3d\]: does someone know the pseudo kgs of jan simara ?
ostreich: isnt there still aji on the left ?
EGC2015a [-\]: flashback i think
Insei [3d\]: ty 
ostreich: j13 ? p15 ? d14 ?
xzar [1k\]: time to invade north?
rsun [4d\]: aka conquer canada
Baobab [2d\]: lel
kostuek [?\]: c16 stuff?
navst: flashback and BUM
ostreich: how long did they spent already ?
]
;W[df]C[EGC2015a [-\]: B 60minutes left, w 90 minutes left
daniug [2d\]: invade north:D
EGC2015a [-\]: approx
ostreich: thx egc
ostreich: l6 :)
]
;B[ef]C[mclp [1k\]: this gotta be wayyyy too greedy
dgom69 [?\]: what are both rank please?
ostreich: 2 6
Nyanjilla [-\]: 2p and 6d
kostuek [?\]: p d
dgom69 [?\]: ok thanks
ostreich: smell like tesuji
Baobab [2d\]: w is Fan Hui 2p, B is Jan Simara 6d
Baobab [2d\]: (for phone users)
]
;W[eg]C[mclp [1k\]: this doesnt smell like tesuji it smells of amateur
]
;B[dg]C[dgom69 [?\]: tablette user for me :)
tonyho [1d\]: i won't excepct w e15 XD
mclp [1k\]: c14 then take corner is what i'd do
ostreich: tes 1 2
mdm [3k\]: weird game
Baobab [2d\]: c14 e15 b16 b17 b15 c17 b12 b11 b13 c11 a14 ? :D
]
;W[cf]C[dgom69 [?\]: coool ! let s see :)
Baobab [2d\]: at least i get the 1st move
rsun [4d\]: two keima easy life
Baobab [2d\]: yeah
Baobab [2d\]: but gote
Baobab [2d\]: bute easy
Justus [4k?\]: obligatory to cut for b?
]
;B[ff]C[rsun [4d\]: now even d15 is sente
Baobab [2d\]: yes otherwise it's meaningless for b
rsun [4d\]: so c16 is ok
Baobab [2d\]: yes ... even better for w
kashi122 [1k\]: would e15 been better?
ofbusy [-\]: having threats on c15 life group could be useful for s13 ko
ofbusy [-\]: "c14 group
rsun [4d\]: e16 tesuji
Justus [4k?\]: I like how f14 supports h12 to m12 stones. cuttng at g13 looks fairly big.
Baobab [2d\]: e15 makes white living small, easily, and gote, while f14 helps fixing b's influence toward the top, but then w lives with bigger points it seems
]
;W[bd]C[ostreich: b's top seems getting pretty large
rsun [4d\]: as large as the hair of marge
Baobab [2d\]: now if b b17 ; w c16 c17 d15 
dgom69 [?\]: if b b17 why not w c17 then take the corner ?
rsun [4d\]: yes
ostreich: tenuki
Baobab [2d\]: well if w c17 then b cut off the 2 stones no ?
rsun [4d\]: w c9 destroys all the left side
rsun [4d\]: so left side is not valuable
Baobab [2d\]: yeah true
dgom69 [?\]: yes but then w has a base to invade from the left the top
dgom69 [?\]: no?
rsun [4d\]: yes w has the level 2 monkey jump to f18
Justus [4k?\]: but if f4 group is not connected out endgame is gonna be better for white. 
theolddan [2d\]: b can just c17 then start the ko at s13
theolddan [2d\]: so many ko threats
dgom69 [?\]: oh yes so many
rsun [4d\]: yes, but w can throw a random stone like j17, which also creates many threats
rsun [4d\]: the timing is very difficult
q11 [4d\]: after w win the ko p7 has some weakness
dgom69 [?\]: w could live in top no?
dgom69 [?\]: seem pretty open
dgom69 [?\]: i guess
romamu [-\]: probabely
rsun [4d\]: if I take over as b, I think so
theolddan [2d\]: c17 good enough for b i think
theolddan [2d\]: hard to find best way for b to handle the w middle group
theolddan [2d\]: before any action or threats he seems to have to do something against w h3
mclp [1k\]: pretty sure white can tenuki if b plays c17
mclp [1k\]: cuz of d15
]
;B[gg]
;W[cc]C[ofbusy [-\]: if b b13 b a15 will kill 
theolddan [2d\]: w would still live. but get reduced severely after b b13
theolddan [2d\]: c17 very good for w 
theolddan [2d\]: bad exchange
Baobab [2d\]: b can go all-in mit p15 
ofbusy [-\]: i dont know why b cut he must have saw something but w must be happy now
theolddan [2d\]: maybe he is preparing the ko?
theolddan [2d\]: and thinks of eliminating aji
theolddan [2d\]: but this is very expensive
liusasori [4d\]: but b got very strong here which is necessary if he want to build a moyo
mclp [1k\]: pretty sure w+r
]
;B[kl]C[mclp [1k\]: live on top and b is way behind
]
;W[jl]C[TurtleDove [5k\]: W prob has d8 then c9 both sente gaining points too
]
;B[km]
;W[kn]
;B[jm]
;W[im]
;B[hn]C[theolddan [2d\]: an almost kill isnt a kill ; much worse
theolddan [2d\]: b should remember
theolddan [2d\]: still thinking of creating ko threats? or just firing them off in an impulse
wolokom [5k\]: hm
mnbvcx: п5
mnbvcx: g5
KwonYuri [2k?\]: you mean s13 ko?
theolddan [2d\]: after j6 b has no way to keep j6 and k3
kostuek [?\]: i would prob die here :)
theolddan [2d\]: getting h6 doesnt make an eye for sure though
mclp [1k\]: i dont get how he can
ofbusy [-\]: h6 could be considered a threat so i dont see b s intentions
mclp [1k\]: e11 g12 h11 big sente shapepoints for w
theolddan [2d\]: yes
theolddan [2d\]: b seems just throwing away his best threats
gogonuts [4d\]: b wants blood
thepaper [1d?\]: i don't think b can ever play that ko. w p11 and o11 would be too expensive
gogonuts [4d\]: after w stole the corner
theolddan [2d\]: b gave the corner
theolddan [2d\]: no criminal energy needed
gogonuts [4d\]: ok ok
liusasori [4d\]: there are sente points but not big: if w had to play e11 this is a loss for him cause without that he has c11 d11 c10 to make points
wolokom [5k\]: j6
theolddan [2d\]: i was looking forward for a nice big ko
theolddan [2d\]: and now?
theolddan [2d\]: b is looking for resign button
Hench [4k\]: g5
gogonuts [4d\]: g13 was actually agressive - it said if you take c17 I will get you 
agameaday [1d\]: he won't find it on a real goban though
CageyS [?\]: I don't think they have resign buttons irl
n9 [2d\]: theolddan, isn't b onthe offensive? It looks like he has a good chance of killing
n9 [2d\]:  *on the
CageyS [?\]: the top potential looks quite big too
wolokom [5k\]: and get nothing
agameaday [1d\]: maybe b wants some criminal energy after all
mnbvcx: g5
theolddan [2d\]: i think the aji of cutting off k3 is too much for b to really kill
theolddan [2d\]: so he cannot destroy the second eye
theolddan [2d\]: but its not easy
EGC2015b [-\]: Simara, you are great
CageyS [?\]: maybe b just wants to get safety and points from this attack then play p15
wolokom [5k\]: time?
CageyS [?\]: wonder if it's enough points to win though
theolddan [2d\]: does fan look worried?
theolddan [2d\]: sometimes its easier to read the face of the pro then trying to read the position
xzar [1k\]: smthg with h4 ?
theolddan [2d\]: fan might think of choosing either g5 or connect at j6
theolddan [2d\]: ?
wolokom [5k\]: why not simpel j 6?
CageyS [?\]: it matters whether to get sente from this position
CageyS [?\]: there are many big endgame moves
CageyS [?\]: c9, e18 for w
yukinosita [5d\]: w about need k2 now !!!
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;W[in]C[Miky [4k\]: how much time left ?
theolddan [2d\]: i think now that the weakness of k3 prevents b from killing
theolddan [2d\]: its this way
theolddan [2d\]: a pitty
yukinosita [5d\]: that is why w don't play any invade around H3 
yukinosita [5d\]: all the time
theolddan [2d\]: probably
yukinosita [5d\]: not probably it is 
theolddan [2d\]: for w it might even be enough to get l4 in sente
theolddan [2d\]: which might happen due to  k3 aji
ofbusy [-\]: b s play looks like madness to me
yukinosita [5d\]: not that extent
yukinosita [5d\]: but the attack looks white
Miky [4k\]: EGC please if you are there, how much time does it left ?
EGC2015a [-\]: B 45mins W 1hour
gogonuts [4d\]: he's mad as hell, and he's not going to take it anymore
gogonuts [4d\]: :-)
Miky [4k\]: thx
yukinosita [5d\]: they are not taking much time
wolokom [5k\]: there are many huge points it is still not a endgame
yukinosita [5d\]: oh sorry
yukinosita [5d\]: quite much . . .
yukinosita [5d\]: about 3 hours now..
yukinosita [5d\]: all black games on KGS are blitz so I have this wrong feeling
yukinosita [5d\]: H3 for working 2 aims? 
Tonight [3k?\]: Did ali win his first game?
bbred [3k\]: e11, e18, o15...
bolbi [-\]: http://egc2015.cz/results/main
]
;B[hq]C[ofbusy [-\]: b s order of play makes 0 sense to me
negesog [7k\]: W  k17?
profan [-\]: w needs 2 eye?
negesog [7k\]: Oh Wright
]
;W[mk]C[liusasori [4d\]: w is pro-ing now
profan [-\]: tenuki! :)
liusasori [4d\]: w perfectly using b shape weakness
profan [-\]: how big is d18 ?
TurtleDove [5k\]: if tenuki, is the old p8 cut a problem?
liusasori [4d\]: tenuki w m10 then b has to protect p8 and lost m9 
liusasori [4d\]: but maybe w read further than me and p8 o8 o9 n8 o11 is working ?
liusasori [4d\]: or directly o11 if b tenuki ?
profan [-\]: can black give  14 stone and win the game?
TurtleDove [5k\]: after B o9, W would have to capture L8 in gote ?
]
;B[lj]C[liusasori [4d\]: no if b o9 w tenuki
]
;W[ki]C[profan [-\]: w is planning to sacrfice 15 stones :)
profan [-\]: sorry black :)
liusasori [4d\]: w is planning to sacrifice 15 black stones you want to say ?
ofbusy [-\]: i have the feeling this will end by "poor b"
profan [-\]: yes :) sry
liusasori [4d\]: with l12, m11 and o11 b has a lot of problem
profan [-\]: isnt 18 sente for the corner life?
profan [-\]: d18)
]
;B[kh]
;W[li]
;B[mj]C[profan [-\]: :D big sac :) or sack :)
]
;W[mi]C[liusasori [4d\]: very hard to kill after d18 tenuki cause w has a lot of aji to use in order to creat life
Justus [4k?\]: after d18 looks on first glance like miai between b18 and b12.
liusasori [4d\]: w still has d17 and d15 sente after so no problem i think
profan [-\]: can black b14?
liusasori [4d\]: if he his desperate yes
]
;B[ll]C[profan [-\]: desperate = waste of aji ?
gogonuts [4d\]: fancy m8
profan [-\]: :)
liusasori [4d\]: desperate= try to make the more complex moves and fights
negesog [7k\]: W have just 1 eye
wolokom [5k\]: no
profan [-\]: 1 eye and half run not enough :)
ofbusy [-\]: hm this makes the s13 much more playable for b if i dont mistake
profan [-\]: g5 isnt alive for white'?
ofbusy [-\]: "the s13 ko 
Hench [4k\]: h6 will be an eye
liusasori [4d\]: w has move like j4 double sente (against h6 and l2)
liusasori [4d\]: g5 h5 j4 h4 j3 j2 l2 k2 n2 for instance
ddUsopp [2k\]: w have n2 
bbred [3k\]: o11?
liusasori [4d\]: not counting e11 and g12 forcing move
liusasori [4d\]: so I don't see any problem for w
profan [-\]: cant g5 turn cutting k3?
liusasori [4d\]: if b play like a kyu yes
Justus [4k?\]: o11 seems aji keshi, reduces risk for black related to the ko after b p11
]
;W[ei]
;B[di]
;W[fk]C[liusasori [4d\]: yes that why it's not a good move anymore (but could be in order to cut p8 earlier)
bbred [3k\]: if n3 is cut, it dies?
profan [-\]: nobody writes a book to think as a kyu is natural :)
liusasori [4d\]: w is playing safe here because he knows he is ahead now
profan [-\]: safe and ahead
bbred [3k\]: w still needs e18 to win?
bbred [3k\]: can w j17 live?
profan [-\]: f9 is not safe is nasty also :)
wolokom [5k\]: more nasty 
wolokom [5k\]: simpel beatyful
]
;B[el]C[negesog [7k\]: Bh8?
]
;W[ih]C[profan [-\]: so, who's the candidate winner for this european congress?
]
;B[ig]C[Geoffrey [-\]: 's ?
Geoffrey [-\]: There is only one candidate winner?
profan [-\]: what's your bet?
]
;W[gh]C[Baobab [2d\]: Fan Hui, Ilya Shikshin, Alex. Dinerstein, as always
]
;B[hg]C[profan [-\]: i see Taranu 5p playing isnt far stronger than others?
Geoffrey [-\]: Shikshin would be my bet for this year. And Fan close second.
gogonuts [4d\]: you can't profanely go by rank
profan [-\]: it's in my dname :)
gogonuts [4d\]: already won
namtg [2k\]: ohh ok
namtg [2k\]: thx
n9 [2d\]: w pass is perhaps too bold of a move
mooooo [4k\]: i guess ilya ali fan
mooooo [4k\]: for top 3
profan [-\]: is shikshin a korean pro?
Geoffrey [-\]: Euro.
Baobab [2d\]: but his sister is korean pro
TurtleDove [5k\]: ask him. he's watching this :)
profan [-\]: is his style more solid maybe he improved a lot?
gogonuts [4d\]: euro pro
tonyho [1d\]: w almost live
Baobab [2d\]: what about this game ? w is looking for best way to live
]
;W[eb]C[Baobab [2d\]: and the best way to live iiiiisss ..... tenuki !
dgom69 [?\]: lol tenuki!
ofbusy [-\]: long story short w got c17 and e18 for free
ofbusy [-\]: well b got reinforcement 
Baobab [2d\]: w has too many $
snowy [1d\]: wow ilya's game already over
Baobab [2d\]: and for a while now
wolokom [5k\]: b should surrender
aiken23 [4k\]: Kill r14 with ko
]
;B[hi]C[Timk [1k\]: is something wrong... or W plays with fire by e18 ?
Geoffrey [-\]: Or he thinks he's already alive
Geoffrey [-\]: And black wants to be sure or that before considering resignation.
Geoffrey [-\]: Of*
]
;W[hm]C[n9 [2d\]: I like that, b is verifying w's reading
liusasori [4d\]: ok w has h9 next so i guess he is already alive
]
;B[ij]
;W[hk]C[largehc [-\]: W is life 
n9 [2d\]:  "no."
largehc [-\]: Umm yes 
Taviandir [3k\]: bG8 does nothing?
TurtleDove [5k\]: unless B g6 is also sente
profi [2d\]: w looks alive thanks for g11 
TurtleDove [5k\]: end up bettting the farm on your reading as we all do
n9 [2d\]: when were you when white live?
profan [-\]: n2 (w) black l2?
]
;B[fc]C[Timk [1k\]: soon s13 ?
dgom69 [?\]: what is the time left EGC please?
]
;W[fb]
;B[gb]C[vaansama [3k?\]: b will resign soon
kostuek [?\]: how soon
aiken23 [4k\]: Why what's the score specifically? 
TurtleDove [5k\]: didn't B f18 work ? instead of f17 ?
largehc [-\]: 10-4
EGC2015a [-\]: those new Ing clocks really have an incredibly small viewing angle :-)
vaansama [3k?\]: black unknown.  w : 82
dgom69 [?\]: lol !
Geoffrey [-\]: Do they have a new voice as well?
EGC2015a [-\]: B 5 mins W40 mins
largehc [-\]: Ouch 
dgom69 [?\]: woooooow
dgom69 [?\]: thx
bbred [3k\]: w c9?
largehc [-\]: B like 60 at most 
]
;W[oe]C[niark [3d\]: s13 
]
;B[ne]C[bbred [3k\]: w p11 is uge sente
largehc [-\]: O11 you mean? 
]
;W[nf]
;B[me]C[bbred [3k\]: nope, if b starts the co, w takes, takeing a gain is sente
largehc [-\]: I think personally of p11 as a pretty stupid move for w 
bbred [3k\]: 3k move
largehc [-\]: It's just auto atari 
Justus [4k?\]: after the ko..
Lyoug [3k\]: maybe he meant b s13, w r14 cut, b s11 atari, w takes, b threat, then w p11
aiken23 [4k\]: W 13. Just finish up
bbred [3k\]: yea, so co for b is ...
]
;W[mf]C[Baobab [2d\]: p9 group is getting surrounded
]
;B[lf]C[bbred [3k\]: so n12 then
dgom69 [?\]: maybe m15 first no?
bbred [3k\]: w c9 also?
]
;W[ck]
;B[eh]C[Tonight [3k?\]: Who won ali or mitic?
EGC2015a [-\]: they are still playing
Tonight [3k?\]: Oh
]
;W[lr]
;B[mr]C[liusasori [4d\]: m2 is the move I didn't expected at all !
dgom69 [?\]: neither do i!
dgom69 [?\]: n1 now?
Baobab [2d\]: p2 rather
largehc [-\]: Big moves 
dgom69 [?\]: p2 why?
Baobab [2d\]: p2 is bigger for w
]
;W[or]C[dgom69 [?\]: yes but seems out of topic for th e
stj1997 [1d\]: this game is very slow...
stj1997 [1d\]: I don't like slow game
dgom69 [?\]: for the time beeing
Baobab [2d\]: plus w still has m1 n1 k2 j2 k1 to make an eye
Baobab [2d\]: oh ok i'm 2p, not 2d 
]
;B[qg]C[Baobab [2d\]: :D
]
;W[rg]C[sgfesfgy: c9, now p2, big yose for w
largehc [-\]: The game feels overish 
]
;B[bf]C[griffon [1d\]: niiice
dgom69 [?\]: ha b14!
dgom69 [?\]: desperate move? :)
griffon [1d\]: tesuji
slim76 [1k\]: tesuji
dgom69 [?\]: just referring to what has been siad earlier ;)
justhinkin [1k\]: sequence?
]
;W[be]
;B[bg]
;W[ni]
;B[oi]C[bbred [3k\]: q14
Baobab [2d\]: you mean what if w b13 instead of b15 ?
bbred [3k\]: yea
]
;W[ga]
;B[hb]C[bbred [3k\]: no, bad idea
Baobab [2d\]: b14 b13 b15 c15 c16 a15 b17 a14 d17 c18 d18 and w capture e18 stones
Lyoug [3k\]: w+10-15 ?
]
;W[bj]
;B[cj]C[Baobab [2d\]: too bad b13 wasn't sente for b
]
;W[ci]
;B[dj]
;W[bi]C[BlackSmurf [1k?\]: When is next round plz?
TurtleDove [5k\]: tomorrow
mdm [3k\]: tomorrow
bbred [3k\]: w f12 is sente?
EGC2015a [-\]: tommorow 9:30
]
;B[dc]C[BlackSmurf [1k?\]: Thx
]
;W[db]C[EGC2015a [-\]: czech time
]
;B[ce]
;W[cd]C[Warfreak2 [-\]: how does that differ from hammer time?
bbred [3k\]: yes, Thor
EGC2015a [-\]: W+Resign
Lice [4d\]: did ali win?
EGC2015a [-\]: Thanks for watching and see you tommorow
EGC2015a [-\]: ali still play
Lice [4d\]: thx
bibi719 [1k\]: Thanks to you
TurtleDove [5k\]: thx for relay
fightback [3d\]: thanks
Baobab [2d\]: thx EGC
EGC2015a [-\]: bb
daniug [2d\]: thx
WDimension [5k\]: bravo fan hui !!!
Hellblom [4k\]: didnt see that coming
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