(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[9000]OT[3x60 byo-yomi]
GN[European Championship 2015 (Top 24) - r2 (w) Silt Ondrej (b) Dinerstein Alexandr]PW[Silt Ondrej]PB[Dinerstein Alexandr]WR[6d]BR[3p]DT[2015-07-27]RO[2]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[Grunman [8k\]: Alexandr is not 3p here?
EGC2015a [-\]: Hello here
Pooka [1d?\]: hi
]RE[B+Resign]
;B[de]
;W[pp]
;B[qd]
;W[dp]
;B[qn]
;W[nq]
;B[od]C[Grunman [8k\]: some new fuseki from b?
Reym [-\]: i guess when you play in amateur tournament you use your amateur rank
Grunman [8k\]: no, Shikshin and some others do not
EGC2015a [-\]: i use rank when i rewrite from pairing
]
;W[dc]
;B[fd]C[EGC2015a [-\]: and now its according to reality
EGC2015a [-\]: 3p
]
;W[ce]C[Grunman [8k\]: oh
Reym [-\]: ah ok :)
EGC2015a [-\]: and there is problem that in amatuar tournament you cant use profi rank, so every pros is annouced as 8dan.
Grunman [8k\]: yeah thanks
]
;B[cf]C[Hobbes [1k\]: b long thought surprise me, this position was expected from his fuseki choice
PlaySlow [10k\]: Which tournament is this? Are there any links?
PlaySlow [10k\]: I am connecting from mobile;(
apina [1d\]: http://egc2015.cz/
PlaySlow [10k\]: Thank you apina!
EGC2015a [-\]: online stream: http://egc2015.cz/stream
EGC2015a [-\]: results: http://egc2015.cz/results/mainwall
EGC2015a [-\]: pairing: http://egc2015.cz/results/main
]
;W[cd]
;B[dg]
;W[fb]C[saf22si [1d\]: game 2 with Fan Hui is not on KGS ?
EGC2015a [-\]: not
]
;B[cn]
;W[fp]C[saf22si [1d\]: th egc2015 , not enough interesting, probably
EGC2015a [-\]: somethink like that
SIshaman [?\]: Fan Hui every round would be boring guys :)
]
;B[on]
;W[rp]
;B[fm]C[urungu [2d\]: this game seems interesting
SIshaman [?\]: no way ! Dinerstein played SIsaimon move :D
Hobbes [1k\]: b mojo is bigger than russia
LuisSousa [3k\]: moyo
Hobbes [1k\]: thx
LuisSousa [3k\]: mojo sounds funny...
Emanon [2k\]: moyo sounds mayo
Hobbes [1k\]: diner is the only pro who consinstenly goes for this big moyo amatourish games
LuisSousa [3k\]: i read somewhere that his style is terrytorial... but I've never really checked his games out
Hobbes [1k\]: he was
Hobbes [1k\]: now he is not
LuisSousa [3k\]: and also his teachers in korea had a hard time getting rid of his bad habit of playing trick plays 
]
;W[ip]C[EGC2015a [-\]: if you want see some amateur photo you can look here: http://goklubfm.cz/egc2015 its from my  go club
EGC2015a [-\]: both players are not at the table 
]
;B[cq]C[agameaday [1d\]: trick plays work against amateurs in europe, they don't work if you're surround by top pros so you automatically stop playing them
Holub [1d\]: this game gonna be very interesting
gogonuts [4d\]: interesting opening by b
gogonuts [4d\]: but switching to profit a little early with c3, imo
]
;W[cp]
;B[bp]C[gogonuts [4d\]: generally speaking, it seems he should first keep blowing up his center
SIsaimon [1d\]: SIshaman: but I play the move even on empty board ;)
]
;W[bo]
;B[bq]
;W[co]
;B[er]C[SIshaman [?\]: I know, here is a good spot for this move though
SIshaman [?\]: now seems even more like a trick move
wade [5d\]: i dont like the direction of play by w
GoPostal [3d?\]: who are the players? 
wade [5d\]: w silt vs b dinerstein
]
;W[fk]C[SIsaimon [1d\]: This looks like full random to me :-)
GoPostal [3d?\]: hard to believe silt would play this fuseki
]
;B[hm]
;W[hk]C[storn [2k\]: I cant understand this game at all(((
]
;B[jm]
;W[jk]C[vaansama [3k?\]: Hellloz. Who are the player please
songokuss3 [2k\]:  wade [5d\]: w silt vs b dinerstein
EGC2015a [-\]: when i look on it it seems that i got strange game all the time- yesterday was some part too with Fan. 
vaansama [3k?\]: Thx let see other then ')
Nirvanc [2k\]: Strange games are beautiful
]
;B[mp]C[storn [2k\]: btw, yesterday I saw amazing old game shikshin vs taranu. 2008 year or so. It was crazy and wonderfoul!
]
;W[no]C[hgffdx: o5 = i troll you
noob1d [5d?\]: c3 made no sense, b switched strategy?
]
;B[jp]C[noob1d [5d?\]: seems b's original strategy was to force w to take territory, maybe because b knows w player likes influence
hgffdx: b is well know for having a territory-sided style 
hgffdx: but f7 and c3 don't match, i agree
gogonuts [4d\]: logical or not, b seems to have gotten a promising position
]
;W[io]C[noob1d [5d?\]: n7 ?
gogonuts [4d\]: how about m7, hoping to make k5 work at some point?
]
;B[lm]C[billlin [9d\]: looks for favorable for w at this point
billlin [9d\]: more*  (personal opinion)
gogonuts [4d\]: I'm sympathetic to the b position. But who knows what it will look like in 10 moves
Grunman [8k\]: w can probably attack c6 stone to connect
flobby [-\]: attack c6 stone?
noob1d [5d?\]: what's the best way to protect the 3 stones in the center? around j12 ?
flobby [-\]: do they need protecting? (serious question)
noob1d [5d?\]: maybe w will m9 
flobby [-\]: i'll guess n7. don't laugh, kyu move, i know
]
;W[mm]C[flobby [-\]: woot!
]
;B[ll]
;W[mo]C[hgffdx: ya 2 strong
EGC2015a [-\]: in few moments will be interrupting broadcasting, we need switch notebook for EGC2015a, so dont worry
Fenring [3k\]: what? mais this game go too fast, you can't remmber all moves they will play  during the switch^^
]
;B[jo]
;W[in]
;B[im]C[EGC2015a [-\]: there was problem with one notebook and this notebook is for referee of rapid tournament, and its time to prepare next round.
hgffdx: don't under-estimate EGCa's strenght
]
;W[kj]C[Grunman [8k\]: or he will escape
]
;B[iq]C[Hobbes [1k\]: the fact that roln is spending less than half the playtime of other top player can give him an edge in the lung run
EGC2015a [-\]: notebooks switched
hgffdx: yeah 2nd time he finished his game quickly
Hobbes [1k\]: I wonder if he will pop up in chat again^^
]
;W[gn]
;B[gm]
;W[dn]C[Hobbes [1k\]: talking about pop...how is doing C.Pop?
EGC2015a [-\]: still playing
Hobbes [1k\]: thx
EGC2015a [-\]: i just swich the man who was writing the game before me, so cant really tell what is his situation
Hobbes [1k\]: one thing for sure.. it's a slow game
]
;B[dl]C[Funsies [-\]: definitely reasons for that
]
;W[fr]C[EGC2015a [-\]: looks like Pop just finishing
]
;B[eq]C[hgffdx: slow and weird, that's the game we love on kgs
]
;W[fq]C[EGC2015a [-\]: Pop is counting
Hobbes [1k\]: thx for the infos
]
;B[hq]C[SIsaimon [1d\]: w shape looks susspicious
]
;W[es]C[hgffdx: lol
EGC2015a [-\]: Pop win
Hobbes [1k\]: thx
negesog [7k\]: Long time left? 
EGC2015a [-\]: w 50min b 80min
negesog [7k\]: Ty
]
;B[dr]C[negesog [7k\]: It looks that b is comfortable 
SIsaimon [1d\]: locally dead, but w can be cut
EGC2015a [-\]: ahoj Saimone
SIsaimon [1d\]: Cau :-), kdo tam?
EGC2015a [-\]: Oleh
Funsies [-\]: interesting...
hgffdx: Why doesn't Dai Junfu play ? he plays so fast ... :(
]
;W[go]
;B[fn]
;W[fo]
;B[bs]
;W[jn]
;B[lo]
;W[kn]
;B[ln]
;W[el]C[SIsaimon [1d\]: ultraviolence
darkronin [2k?\]: Wowow
austrogo [3d\]: e 8 is an upercut
hgffdx: e8 is and uber cut
hgffdx: an*
austrogo [3d\]: upercut is boxing terme
austrogo [3d\]: but i like ubercut
austrogo [3d\]: almoast it can destoy b plans
austrogo [3d\]: its like a dobble sente
Funsies [-\]: mmm...
austrogo [3d\]: if somebody think what i say is wrong tell it
austrogo [3d\]: i am never shur with this crazy game
]
;B[dk]C[hgffdx: yeah directions in this game are strange
]
;W[km]
;B[dm]
;W[em]
;B[en]
;W[do]
;B[np]C[Funsies [-\]: woah, took of fast
Funsies [-\]: off*
tuquedenne [4d\]: P4 and take the sente?
wade [5d\]: seems b has the upper hand on this one
tuquedenne [4d\]: P4, P5, N3, M4, and then something like Q11
]
;W[op]C[U [?\]: the only thing this game is quickly approaching is lunch break
]
;B[mq]
;W[pm]C[NightShift [6d\]: when is lunch? or do players decide?
morth89 [1k\]: players could decide
EGC2015a [-\]: they decide
EGC2015a [-\]: Silt ordered pizza, arrived few min ago
NightShift [6d\]: class
helectrix [2d\]: ^^
chuthup: Q8
hgffdx: they will share pizza ? nice
EGC2015a [-\]: no, its just for him
tuquedenne [4d\]: what kind of pizza? kibitz must know
Ten [?\]: ...
EGC2015a [-\]: dont know, cant see there
tuquedenne [4d\]: well Ten happy you're there. What are your feelings about this game? :)
Ten [?\]: No comment
hgffdx: then you can comment the pizza call ?
]
;B[nr]
;W[pn]C[kmr [1d\]: I doubt Ondrej would share anything with Diner :)
Grunman [8k\]: is it ok to give up fuseki?
]
;B[ij]
;W[ik]
;B[gj]
;W[gk]
;B[ek]
;W[fl]
;B[fj]C[EGC2015a [-\]: time: w15min b40min
calme [-\]: W lead already 
]
;W[ee]C[noob1d [5d?\]: actually b leading
EGC2015a [-\]: i am not sure about white leading, also
calme [-\]: with the center lost i doubt
EGC2015a [-\]: but white dont have any territory
noob1d [5d?\]: e16 
calme [-\]: but i don't understand E15, R11 or N17 seem bigger
jtshrt: if I was white, I would have played wR11 now
jtshrt: since black seems to have quite a painful sente extension there
noob1d [5d?\]: e16 d16 f15 
calme [-\]: i agree jt
]
;B[qk]C[jtshrt: yikes, this!
calme [-\]: seem deep, R11 to counter maybe
noob1d [5d?\]: gote
jtshrt: black will be happy to jump up if wR11?
calme [-\]: but R7 is very submissive
kmr [1d\]: white has some territory, top left corner, about 18 points in center and some points in down right corner
hgffdx: w has around 45+ komi points
calme [-\]: kmr : moreover he can reduces with A8 and J2
hgffdx: sorry i counted the center twice
hgffdx: w has 30+ komi points
calme [-\]: yes
]
;W[ed]C[jtshrt: oh wow, this is daring
calme [-\]: P9 ?
noob1d [5d?\]: m17 
]
;B[kc]C[noob1d [5d?\]: my move is better than l17 
calme [-\]: xD
noob1d [5d?\]: this has a weakness at n17 
jtshrt: so is mine
kmr [1d\]: my moves are alwyas better, but results are not ;)
]
;W[qi]C[calme [-\]: my move :D
x0000 [-\]: I guess b doesn't mind n17 to build the right side
calme [-\]: Q10
calme [-\]: noob1d, ur move?
noob1d [5d?\]: r13 
jtshrt: bR13 is very awkward
kmr [1d\]: R13-Q10 and then black sacrifice R6-R9 stones?
jtshrt: no
calme [-\]: yea R13 seems better
]
;B[ok]C[jtshrt: black doesn't just sacrifice an active area like r9
noob1d [5d?\]: r9 wasn't my idea
]
;W[oi]C[x0000 [-\]: p9 kind of slack
]
;B[kl]
;W[jl]C[calme [-\]: w R14 is perfect
ThaoNhi [1k\]: 3p vs 6d same level??
]
;B[lj]C[DaCat [2d\]: +
jtshrt: the p ranks are arbitrary and don't mean anything
ThaoNhi [1k\]: 3p nothing Highlights
jtshrt: they are awards rather than ranks
DaCat [2d\]: *+ or - yeah
loupida [-\]: go go go Silt !
calme [-\]: b should have R13
DaCat [2d\]: 3p is supposed to be around 7d
jtshrt: but d ranks are nowadays based on gor ratings more often in tournaments
jtshrt: no, p ranks don't mean anything
noob1d [5d?\]: b registered as 8d
jtshrt: except than an award for excellence in play
EGC2015a [-\]: i think there will be seki in the middle
calme [-\]: w just have to defend to avoid seki x)
Herod [-\]: You guys.  "p ranks are nothing."  "Their moves are slack."  
wade [5d\]: pros cant register on the system as pros so they get the "8d" rank
x0000 [-\]: Can't be seki I think
jtshrt: Herod: p ranks are not ranks, they are awards
x0000 [-\]: j5 will die if seki locally
lama [2d\]: pranks?
EGC2015a [-\]: sry, you right cnt be seki, white would die
calme [-\]: w L11 maybe
jtshrt: well, white could theoretically make an eye to G4/H5 and another one at C6
jtshrt: ad then have a seki
calme [-\]: m11 l11 so L11 now
noob1d [5d?\]: Herod new to kibitz?
lama [2d\]: m10 is actually super painful for white :)
jtshrt: black direction of play is nice here, white would definitely like to run out with L10 here, but that will hurt P11 group
]
;W[li]C[Herod [-\]: Show some respect for the players please
calme [-\]: cross cut 
Blencathra [7k\]: Rengo in English room
EGC2015a [-\]: alexander go for a walk
EGC2015a [-\]: Silt too
jtshrt: Herod: people here have utmost respect to the top players at EGC
hgffdx: can you see the time at clock EGC ?
jtshrt: they are the best
Blencathra [7k\]: really?
EGC2015a [-\]: W6min B27min
hgffdx: thanks EGC
hgffdx: not tired yet ?
noob1d [5d?\]: maybe egc should order a pizza too
EGC2015a [-\]: no, but i have rapid in 2 hours, so i hope they finish before it
calme [-\]: the pizza is the keymove for sure
snowy [1k\]: uwaw nice pairing ^^
]
;B[mi]C[Tonight [3k?\]: Who is vs ali?
NightShift [6d\]: 1 minute per move, potentially 200 more moves, could be a while :)
]
;W[mj]C[EGC2015a [-\]: yea, but Silt almost in boyomi
snowy [1k\]: what is this
snowy [1k\]: that white group is deado?
EGC2015a [-\]: which?
bumblefoot [2k\]: EGC do you know if catalin finished his game?
noob1d [5d?\]: o10 normal
]
;B[nj]C[snowy [1k\]: white f5 group?
]
;W[mh]C[snowy [1k\]: oh sorry lol lol
Muttley [3k\]: hehe
snowy [1k\]: T_T
EGC2015a [-\]: probably, cant see him anywhere
bumblefoot [2k\]: ok, thx
Muttley [3k\]: if w tenuki 5 times, might die
Muttley [3k\]: mught actually be 7 :)
calme [-\]: should take
jtshrt: hmm, white might actually pull this off safely
jtshrt: I think bO11 better
EGC2015a [-\]: ok, i see Catalin, still playing
jtshrt: EGC2015a: who is he playing?
EGC2015a [-\]: Jan Prokop
Muttley [3k\]: wow, Prokop got a tough draw
jtshrt: cool, thanks
Tonight [3k?\]:  Ali won?
]
;B[mk]C[calme [-\]: L12
]
;W[lh]C[rsun [4d\]: b needs myoshu
EGC2015a [-\]: dont know about Ali
lama [2d\]: sounds like alcohol...
jtshrt: looks good for white, b daren't cut at L11, and connection or life is possible on the right
rsun [4d\]: o11 cut
calme [-\]: L11
noob1d [5d?\]: n17 weakness now showing
jtshrt: I thnk white could even give up the two stones on the right as light, and push through higher up towards the right if bO11 cut
jtshrt: wN17 is starting to look juicy, yeah 
calme [-\]: you right, this is what w expect
rsun [4d\]: b cannot afford komi, must attack
calme [-\]: and b has still R3 to cause some trouble there
EGC2015a [-\]: Silt gonne for a last walk before boyomi
rsun [4d\]: their seats must be very uncomfortable
Muttley [3k\]: the ko is pretty huge also
EGC2015a [-\]: actually a have same seat and they are comfortable
]
;B[qg]C[hgffdx: already 5hours game
]
;W[qm]C[snowy [1k\]: really? o.o
hgffdx: yep
hgffdx: ask EGC lol
rsun [4d\]: w give up p11?
noob1d [5d?\]: p13 
EGC2015a [-\]: 4 hours 40 min
calme [-\]: w is afraid of dying
noob1d [5d?\]: r7 so slow
]
;B[md]C[NightShift [6d\]: setting up s9
rsun [4d\]: s9 is sad
]
;W[qc]C[NightShift [6d\]: indeed
noob1d [5d?\]: n16 good but to me it shows l17 was not best
NightShift [6d\]: but no other meaning that i can see :p
snowy [1k\]: nice probe
Lice [4d\]: bad probe ~.~
]
;B[rd]C[wade [5d\]: s16 is just fine
isumi43 [5k\]: nice probe?
rsun [4d\]: swallowed
calme [-\]: good wade :p
ofbusy [-\]: dead probe 
snowy [1k\]: so-so probe
noob1d [5d?\]: r17 a tiny bit too late
wade [5d\]: damn it ... 1 sec 
snowy [1k\]: burp
]
;W[oq]C[noob1d [5d?\]: w playing so slow
rsun [4d\]: why play small yose
NightShift [6d\]: another slow one
wade [5d\]: slow but big
noob1d [5d?\]: typical japanese style, bad yose
calme [-\]: O12 ?
hgffdx: as b i wouldn't know what to do
hgffdx: coz too many points already
Blencathra [7k\]: f13?
rsun [4d\]: isn't h17 bigger
noob1d [5d?\]: o12 ok, but w still has s9 
x0000 [-\]: b may play h18 
]
;B[gb]C[noob1d [5d?\]: :)
wade [5d\]: q10 and s9 is nothing
hgffdx: h18 looked cool
noob1d [5d?\]: g18 cooler
NightShift [6d\]: g18 very exciting for diner
rsun [4d\]: clamp like a champ
Xylol [4k\]: why exciting?
Cez [4d\]: isnt there some tesuji at m2?
NightShift [6d\]: cos he plays boring if he can
Cez [4d\]: yose tesuji*
NightShift [6d\]: so h18 seemed more his style
NightShift [6d\]: maybe he wants sente for something
rsun [4d\]: b usually plays interesting fuseki
noob1d [5d?\]: diner is actually very good at yose
Lice [4d\]: k17 for w looks neat
wade [5d\]: cez maybe with f1 later on
Xylol [4k\]: yose is the best part of the game :-)
ofbusy [-\]: im not fan of g18
Cez [4d\]: oh wow
NightShift [6d\]: i like k17 idea, but it's prob nonsense :p
wade [5d\]: ofbusy it means youre a silt fan :P
Cez [4d\]: i didnt consider black not connecting at k3
Lice [4d\]: how dare you nightshift
]
;W[ei]C[noob1d [5d?\]: nice
noob1d [5d?\]: f12 risky because of c12 ?
wade [5d\]: you attach i peep you
Mitty [1k\]: c12...
snowy [1k\]: peep...u need a strong bladder to play go....
wade [5d\]: how much time do they have now EGC?
snowy [1k\]: f 12?
EGC2015a [-\]: w 41 sec to boyomi
EGC2015a [-\]: b 9 min
hgffdx: f12 looks too obvious, w must have prepare somthg after it
hgffdx: thx egc
wade [5d\]: thanks :)
rsun [4d\]: 30s byoyomi?
]
;B[ej]C[EGC2015a [-\]: i think 60 sec
Xylol [4k\]: 1m
NightShift [6d\]: 60*3
EGC2015a [-\]: yea
snowy [1k\]: wow 60
Xylol [4k\]: i love 60s, thats good
NightShift [6d\]: 60 is an age
hgffdx: longest game in the congress history
EGC2015a [-\]: there is a lot of time here for top groups
lama [2d\]: i am afraid it is already decided who wins, so...
Xylol [4k\]: btw, thx egc for relaying
rsun [4d\]: the days are long in europe
NightShift [6d\]: don't spoil it for us Iama :p
EGC2015a [-\]: you are wolcome
EGC2015a [-\]: welcome
snowy [1k\]: aren't u thirsty?
EGC2015a [-\]: i have water
noob1d [5d?\]: k17 now
rsun [4d\]: not beer?
snowy [1k\]: not tea?
]
;W[hj]C[noob1d [5d?\]: wat
Lice [4d\]: whatt
EGC2015a [-\]: beer will be after
]
;B[hi]C[EGC2015a [-\]: Silt in boyomi
]
;W[ii]C[rsun [4d\]: gotta push, like george bush
rsun [4d\]: get 3 point sente
]
;B[ih]C[noob1d [5d?\]: is it sente?
NightShift [6d\]: mayve r7 and p3 were looks small is big but h10....
]
;W[ji]
;B[gh]C[NightShift [6d\]: is he still thinking about r11 stone?
Lice [4d\]: what did w do
EGC2015a [-\]: they both looking at C11 area and thinking
]
;W[bl]C[NightShift [6d\]: he made some solid so that he can k17 :p
wade [5d\]: protected the l11 cut i guess
]
;B[fc]C[noob1d [5d?\]: good move by b
snowy [1k\]: i almost forgot this ;p
rsun [4d\]: w lost many points after I came
]
;W[eb]C[lama [2d\]: as a fan of white i must say this is b++
noob1d [5d?\]: b got it in sente!
noob1d [5d?\]: b9 now?
rsun [4d\]: b9 or h17
NightShift [6d\]: h17 would be a declaration
wade [5d\]: if b9 then k17 should be fun
rsun [4d\]: maybe b7 to remove w eye
rsun [4d\]: force semedori
wade [5d\]: but 5 pts off semedori isnt as big
EGC2015a [-\]: b 5 min
jtshrt: the semedori can be worth way more points than 5
NightShift [6d\]: w has a bit of eye shape around g3 too
NightShift [6d\]: so maybe b won't get a full squeeze
]
;B[bk]C[rsun [4d\]: w must make use of r17
ofbusy [-\]: lol rsun
NightShift [6d\]: q15 is the only use :p
noob1d [5d?\]: h17 
]
;W[ds]
;B[cs]C[noob1d [5d?\]: w preparing something at bottom
Lice [4d\]: no.. timesuji
ofbusy [-\]: m2 n2 k2 k3 j1 ?
EGC2015a [-\]: yea
mdew: can t believe w is loosing
noob1d [5d?\]: but there is some aji
]
;W[fs]
;B[dq]C[snowy [1k\]: why not~~ breakfast all the way
chappy [3k\]: h13
EGC2015a [-\]: black is not giving him any more time
]
;W[hc]C[wade [5d\]: is there a stream? coz the camera is offline
mdew: in the begining w was at great advantage
noob1d [5d?\]: yes, b playing in a way to keep w under time pressure
noob1d [5d?\]: I suggested h17 
Xylol [4k\]: i think there is some youtube live stream
bluetable [-\]: EGC!
noob1d [5d?\]: if g17 ,k17 
EGC2015a [-\]: stream sould be
snowy [1k\]: there is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hpc-0wdUO9o
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;B[ic]C[noob1d [5d?\]: I would play j17 too
bluetable [-\]: I am going to EGC Liberec too I am every excited
noob1d [5d?\]: has anyone counted?
NightShift [6d\]: yose is big in this game
NightShift [6d\]: too much effort to count
wade [5d\]: thanks
rsun [4d\]: only pro can count this game
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;W[cj]C[ofbusy [-\]: this move is hilarious
potabobo [2k\]: b+2.5
iphone4 [3d\]: bluetable, you are not a bot ?
noob1d [5d?\]: for w to play this
noob1d [5d?\]: must mean he thinks he is behind
bluetable [-\]: I am a blue table
flobby [-\]: bluetable got a software upgrade recently
noob1d [5d?\]: c9 c12 b13 e13 I guess is the plan
EGC2015c [-\]: Jabarin won against Simara
rsun [4d\]: bluetable has high intelligence
NightShift [6d\]: gooo ali
Arteus [2k\]: and what about Lukan?
rsun [4d\]: with thanks to bluetable, kibitz quality has been stable
kanako [4d\]: lol
EGC2015a [-\]: Lukan still playing, he will finish soon, thought
Xylol [4k\]: he is an anchor for kibitz rank
NightShift [6d\]: bluetable is how kgs will attract the pros away from tygem
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;B[bj]C[Arteus [2k\]: thank you
kanako [4d\]: is c3 alive?
Xylol [4k\]: imagine some 9p decide to spam their games on kgs
Xylol [4k\]: fun to watch :-P
noob1d [5d?\]: a2 b2 so aliv
noob1d [5d?\]: alive
wade [5d\]: fredda isnt playing this year?
EGC2015a [-\]: In case anyone wondered, Lukas Kraemer beat Remi Campagnie by 2.5
Xylol [4k\]: thx egc
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;W[cm]C[wade [5d\]: nice !
NightShift [6d\]: lukas for champion!
noob1d [5d?\]: remi is "ikami" on kgs
EGC2015a [-\]: black in byomyoi
EGC2015a [-\]: byoyomi
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;B[ef]C[EGC2015c [-\]: Lukan lost
]
;W[hb]C[NightShift [6d\]: sadnesses
wade [5d\]: did dinerstein turn the voice down to 0? 
noob1d [5d?\]: I can't see diner in the video stream
wade [5d\]: *on the clocks*
kmr [1d\]: LOL Wade! ^^
snowy [1k\]: me too :(
noob1d [5d?\]: one time diner lost because his clock had no sound
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;B[rl]C[noob1d [5d?\]: in a egc final
wade [5d\]: sweden
noob1d [5d?\]: q13 
snowy [1k\]: oh
NightShift [6d\]: can he do q15 first?
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;W[pg]C[noob1d [5d?\]: :^)
NightShift [6d\]: seems not :P
]
;B[pf]C[noob1d [5d?\]: just because they play something doesn't mean it's correct
kanako [4d\]: they are only 6p and 3d
wade [5d\]: but what is the fun of playing only the correct move?
NightShift [6d\]: spoonerism
noob1d [5d?\]: q15 looked interesting
NightShift [6d\]: i woulda done it in a kgs blitz :p
NightShift [6d\]: and oppo woulda answered ^_^
ghaele [3d?\]: fan hui won today?
Fenring [3k\]: yes
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;W[qf]C[Xylol [4k\]: I'am a fan fan
ghaele [3d?\]: lol
NightShift [6d\]: r17 has only been a minus so far
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;B[rf]C[Blencathra [7k\]: of course
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;W[of]
;B[qe]
;W[id]C[NightShift [6d\]: f15?
noob1d [5d?\]: by my counting, b+10
ghaele [3d?\]: why r14 i dont understand why it s better than p14 first
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;B[ib]C[rsun [4d\]: to force an empty triangle
NightShift [6d\]: p14 might get p13
NightShift [6d\]: then q13 wouldnt be light
NightShift [6d\]: now it is light
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;W[ff]
;B[fg]C[noob1d [5d?\]: w k2 
ghaele [3d?\]: ok now if b p13 you c
ghaele [3d?\]: can jyst o12
]
;W[jd]C[Xylol [4k\]: Too bad Inseong is not playing
Xylol [4k\]: he is strong
EGC2015c [-\]: Taranu won
rsun [4d\]: is roln playing
ghaele [3d?\]: same for dai junfu
Xylol [4k\]: roln won agaisnt lin
hgffdx: roln finished his game early
hgffdx: very early
rsun [4d\]: ic
wade [5d\]: same for lee sedol :(
isumi43 [5k\]: Thx Euro.
Xylol [4k\]: ?
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;B[fe]C[rsun [4d\]: I thought lee said he was going to move to N America
hgffdx: that was 2 years ago or somethg
Xylol [4k\]: the times are changing
rsun [4d\]: did he say "next year"?
NightShift [6d\]: that was before he got a ton of money for playing gu li :p
Xylol [4k\]: did the loss somehow impact gu li's career?
wade [5d\]: for crushing gu li
rsun [4d\]: Gu got a title recently
hgffdx: no xyxol
]
;W[jc]
;B[jb]C[Xylol [4k\]: kk ty
hgffdx: or maybe we can't see the impact yet
Xylol [4k\]: is he still chinese top10?
]
;W[lc]C[wade [5d\]: i sense m17 will be played
hgffdx: write faster wade :o)
calme [-\]: you sensed nothing :)
rsun [4d\]: no impact besides getting cursed by his fans on forums
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;B[kd]C[wade [5d\]: think faster :'(
]
;W[ld]C[Xylol [4k\]: rsun, really?
x0000 [-\]: m17 can't be played.
]
;B[ke]C[NightShift [6d\]: ondrej is pretty cool
hgffdx: Alex is cool too
NightShift [6d\]: all these boring yose moves but he can still play some tesuji in byo
calme [-\]: lol
x0000 [-\]: go is cool
calme [-\]: he's still in chûban
wade [5d\]: m18...
NightShift [6d\]: r17 about to show it's purpose
]
;W[le]C[hgffdx: ice cream is cool
]
;B[lb]C[wade [5d\]: m15 was a mistake 
ofbusy [-\]: w try to bring b into crazy stuff
]
;W[he]
;B[gf]C[NightShift [6d\]: w got 7 in a row so he wins anyway
]
;W[kf]C[ghaele [3d?\]:  7 in a row?
Justus [4k?\]: c5
]
;B[mc]C[NightShift [6d\]: if someone plays s6 and p2 then it might be worth counting
]
;W[je]
;B[kb]
;W[be]C[calme [-\]: bad tenuki
]
;B[bf]C[rsun [4d\]: a14
]
;W[or]C[NightShift [6d\]: no need now, b wont a15
Babibo [2d\]: black a14 was best for yose ?
calme [-\]: why not J1
]
;B[lf]C[noob1d [5d?\]: k14 first seemed better
NightShift [6d\]: s7 looks nice
noob1d [5d?\]: n3 not 100% alive yet
NightShift [6d\]: so does n2
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;W[gc]
;B[mf]C[noob1d [5d?\]: w will lose if he doesn't do something special
Tonight [3k?\]: Ali vs jan?
Tonight [3k?\]: Who win?
Xylol [4k\]: ali
]
;W[og]C[Tonight [3k?\]: By?
noob1d [5d?\]: n2 and b is winning by 10++
]
;B[nh]C[snowy [1k\]: it's still not a oveh
snowy [1k\]: i
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;W[ng]
;B[ni]
;W[mg]C[noob1d [5d?\]: n2 and game over
noob1d [5d?\]: come on
ghaele [3d?\]: s7
calme [-\]: Q11
]
;B[ph]
;W[oh]C[noob1d [5d?\]: y u no n2 
]
;B[oo]C[NightShift [6d\]: b being clever
noob1d [5d?\]: p5 good!
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;W[om]C[calme [-\]: o7
noob1d [5d?\]: o6 
]
;B[nn]C[noob1d [5d?\]: :-p
]
;W[mr]C[rsun [4d\]: w should n2 first
calme [-\]: you're just a noob 1d ;)
]
;B[lr]C[noob1d [5d?\]: n2 bigger
]
;W[ns]
;B[rn]C[Xylol [4k\]: b got alot this endgame
noob1d [5d?\]: anyway, it's already impossible for b to lose
]
;W[rm]
;B[sm]C[G361 [11k\]: q5
]
;W[po]
;B[mn]C[Justus [4k?\]: l2
Xylol [4k\]: m1?
rsun [4d\]: k2
noob1d [5d?\]: k2 l3 I guess
]
;W[af]
;B[ag]C[noob1d [5d?\]: k2 l2 better
Xylol [4k\]: a15 b13 :-)
]
;W[ae]
;B[ck]
;W[pi]C[Justus [4k?\]: nice
rsun [4d\]: s10
Xylol [4k\]: m1 bigger?
]
;B[rh]C[ghaele [3d?\]: treatening q9
]
;W[ri]C[Xylol [4k\]: oh
Xylol [4k\]: ty
Cool [1k\]: w q10 q9 r12 
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;B[pk]C[ofbusy [-\]: damn b forgets nothing
Xylol [4k\]: m1?
]
;W[so]
;B[sn]C[U [?\]: i would think m1 isnt as big as it seems due to the open skirt
]
;W[oe]C[Xylol [4k\]: at least it is sente isnt it?
wade [5d\]: k2 looks fine
ghaele [3d?\]: l2?
Cool [1k\]: k2 big move
]
;B[ne]C[NightShift [6d\]: b wins by however much he gets on lower side
NightShift [6d\]: or with that whol egroup actually
rsun [4d\]: b h1 would make tight pants
]
;W[pe]
;B[pd]C[hgffdx: b h1 and m1 makes baggy
wade [5d\]: h1 k2 then m1 is nothig
]
;W[bg]
;B[ah]C[Xylol [4k\]: timesuji?
rsun [4d\]: b13 is a great sente
U [?\]: i would guess yes
]
;W[hr]
;B[ir]
;W[ls]
;B[kr]
;W[hs]C[NightShift [6d\]: interesting solution w came up with for that area
ofbusy [-\]: h1 is small
]
;B[nm]C[wade [5d\]: t12 looks big for w now
EGC2015a [-\]: i guess he wanted ensure 2 eyes so he wouldnt be later forced to capture the stones
Grunman [8k\]: does k14 cut give any points?
ofbusy [-\]: right that too egc
]
;W[hg]
;B[hh]C[noob1d [5d?\]: egc strong
Xylol [4k\]: i was looking at h13 and thought nah w cannot play there
Xylol [4k\]: :-)
]
;W[qh]C[EGC2015a [-\]: black 60s 2 times, white is already in his last period
]
;B[hf]C[noob1d [5d?\]: b+2
EGC2015a [-\]: B +R
noob1d [5d?\]: thx egc
justhinkin [1k\]: ty
EGC2015a [-\]: thanks for watching
wade [5d\]: thank you 
griffon [1d\]: when are the next games
ghaele [3d?\]: tomorow
NightShift [6d\]: is the rapid being broadcast?
griffon [1d\]: until when ?
globax [3d\]: thanks to players and record
hgffdx: thyx EGC
kmr [1d\]: thx all EGC scribes
EGC2015a [-\]: I guess rapid wont be broadcasted, at least for now
NightShift [6d\]: cool, thx anyway!
EGC2015a [-\]: But Im not entirely sure
EGC2015a [-\]: Stay tuned there are many cool games in the main tournament ahead of us :-)
EGC2015a [-\]: See you!
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