(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[9000]OT[3x60 byo-yomi]
GN[European Championship 2015 (Top 24) - r2, Kravets (w) vs. Lisy (b)]PW[Andrii Kravets]PB[Pavol Lisy]WR[6d]BR[1p]DT[2015-07-27]RO[2]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[NightShift [6d\]: argh, how to choose who to support ><
Mikko88888: all 4 games are very nice!
Shedal [?\]: Go Andrii!
darkronin [2k?\]: Who is playing?
darkronin [2k?\]: Sorry >.<
EGC2015c [-\]: Pairing for 2nd round: http://egc2015.cz/results/main
EGC2015c [-\]: yesterday results: http://egc2015.cz/results/mainwall
Shedal [?\]: Why isn't Fan Hui's game being broadcast?
Hobbes [1k\]: maybe he is playing a not so high dan?
Shedal [?\]: He is going to play Dusan Mitic
EGC2015c [-\]: we chose another board for this round
Shedal [?\]: Well I am glad you did, I love Artem's games :)
Hobbes [1k\]: well anyone deserve his 10 minutes of celebrity i guess
]RE[B+Resign]
;B[qd]
;W[dp]
;B[dc]
;W[pp]
;B[ce]
;W[od]C[EGC2015c [-\]: Fai Hui is very strong, I believe that we will see him on broadcast several times.
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;B[oc]
;W[nc]
;B[pc]
;W[db]
;B[cc]
;W[md]
;B[qf]
;W[ic]
;B[gc]C[EGC2015c [-\]: EGC online stream: http://egc2015.cz/stream
NightShift [6d\]: can we request to see players games? if so can i request wang zheming at some stage?
]
;W[cn]
;B[lc]
;W[mb]
;B[jd]
;W[jc]
;B[kc]
;W[kb]
;B[lb]
;W[la]
;B[jb]
;W[ka]
;B[id]
;W[ib]
;B[hb]
;W[ia]C[EGC2015c [-\]: Non-European players will transmited in the second week...
NightShift [6d\]: ok cool thx
EGC2015c [-\]: Now we are focusing on the Top 24 - European Championship.
]
;B[jq]C[SIshaman [?\]: what do you guys think of the beginning so far?
NightShift [6d\]: seems fairly even, not sure d18 exchange is good for black after the top side joseki though
SIshaman [?\]: the black stones are in peculiar shape somehow 
SIshaman [?\]: but yeah, should be ok for both so far
]
;W[hd]
;B[hc]C[Mikko88888: white slightly better imo
]
;W[he]
;B[ke]
;W[nf]
;B[fe]
;W[kg]C[Nirvanc [2k\]: j14 ?
Guyome [2d\]: are H16-15 stones that can be discarded to gain influence in the center or should they be kept at all costs since they are cutting stones ?
Arteus [2k\]: I guess you'll see in a couple of minutes :)
Guyome [2d\]: :)
]
;B[jf]C[koros [7k?\]: j14 was better?
Nirvanc [2k\]: i don't pretend to read better than pros
wade [5d\]: j14 j15 k14 k15 problems so k14 is better
]
;W[hg]
;B[jg]
;W[jh]
;B[kh]
;W[ih]
;B[lg]
;W[ki]
;B[lh]
;W[li]
;B[nh]
;W[mi]
;B[ng]C[Nirvanc [2k\]: c12 looks big
ofbusy [-\]: w has room for 2d eye m15 perhaps
]
;W[oj]
;B[oa]C[gogonuts [4d\]: nice p19
gogonuts [4d\]: or nasty, is you prefer
hgffdx: or classic
ofbusy [-\]: w o19 maybe enough to live
]
;W[le]C[Fenring [3k\]: why we dont have the fan hui's game, he must be table 2,no?
]
;B[nq]C[ofbusy [-\]: with 20/30 tables of high dans game we cant see all 
EGC2015c [-\]: we chose another one...
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;W[pq]
;B[no]
;W[pn]
;B[ph]
;W[qj]C[Fenring [3k\]: ok,ok strange to odnt choose th 4th first bale,thats all
fuzhou [4d\]: m15 doesnt prevent the ko, o18-n19?
]
;B[oe]C[gogonuts [4d\]: r10 was an overplay
gogonuts [4d\]: should have n17
hgffdx: then o3 is underplay
gogonuts [4d\]: pretty surely, w expected ko, not direct death
gogonuts [4d\]: no, q12 was the absolute sente move
gogonuts [4d\]: everything was pretty reasonable, until w overlooked p15 option
gogonuts [4d\]: right now it looks like early lunch
hgffdx: yea actually hard to fight for b without q12 
hgffdx: fast game
austrogo [3d\]: w dead?
murai [3d\]: almost
austrogo [3d\]: n17 o18
austrogo [3d\]: n17 o19 ko?
]
;W[of]C[hgffdx: b has a weakness though
]
;B[pe]
;W[ne]C[hgffdx: q15 m14 l14 o15 n14 n17 l16 q13 r13 r12 etc
hgffdx: n14 now
]
;B[mf]
;W[lf]
;B[kf]
;W[pg]C[hgffdx: looks capturing race, not alive
hgffdx: b*
]
;B[qh]C[hgffdx: b can't r12 right ?
]
;W[qg]C[hgffdx: b can't s13 right ?
]
;B[rg]
;W[oh]C[Fantleroy [1d\]: why not b p11 ?
gogonuts [4d\]: i feel bad for writing of w 
gogonuts [4d\]: b net isnt holding
Fantleroy [1d\]: i feel like there's gonna be enough cuts for B to get out
gogonuts [4d\]: but w really should have taken the time at some point to ask at n17
Fantleroy [1d\]: but maybe not (?)
chappy [3k\]: still ko at o18
EGC2015c [-\]: Pavol isn't happy now... he is thinking hard
gogonuts [4d\]: thats what I mean
Fantleroy [1d\]: o18?ko?
gogonuts [4d\]: when b played p15 w could have easily asked at n17
hgffdx: o18 n17 n19 is ko, but n17 is w sente at any time
hgffdx: so no ko
HappyLook [5d\]: looks like a direct ko ..
HappyLook [5d\]: at o16
hgffdx: seq pls ?
NightShift [6d\]: can't b just p13 q14 s12 p11 o18 ? seems he leads in libs
]
;B[oi]
;W[og]
;B[ni]C[NightShift [6d\]: isn't this way just one extra lib for w?
]
;W[pi]
;B[qi]
;W[pj]
;B[nj]C[NightShift [6d\]: s14?
NightShift [6d\]: interesting play by pavol, he reads far...
namtg [2k\]: this is not good for w
NightShift [6d\]: s14 s12 s15 s10 r15 s16 q14 q16 s9 t13 perhaps
NightShift [6d\]: looks like w collapse
NightShift [6d\]: wonder what else he has up his sleeve
NightShift [6d\]: maybe r15 could s16
hgffdx: order of move was important
NightShift [6d\]: that might be messier
]
;W[nk]C[ofbusy [-\]: s14 wasnt the plan?
]
;B[mj]C[hgffdx: m8 ?
hgffdx: s10 s12 m8 rather
NightShift [6d\]: if that way w will lose the race
NightShift [6d\]: looks like pavol might not have to play for too much longer either
Hobbes [1k\]: ^^
]
;W[mc]C[hgffdx: m8 and w +1 lib :o)
hgffdx: joke
EGC2015c [-\]: Pop won against Burzo
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;B[ha]
;W[ja]C[Arteus [2k\]: l16 is a no-brainer, no?
]
;B[kd]C[Arteus [2k\]: :)
Krikri [1k\]: What about Lukan  flashback , krabicka any result?
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;W[rf]
;B[rh]
;W[re]
;B[rj]
;W[qe]C[EGC2015c [-\]: still playing
NightShift [6d\]: flash is gonna do it again this year
gonzo [4d?\]: w should have s10 i thinkthen m8
hgffdx: what the hell is happening
Arteus [2k\]: s16?
Xylol [4k\]: whos flash?
Krikri [1k\]: Jan Simara all czech players
Xylol [4k\]: s9 
]
;B[qk]
;W[rc]
;B[ok]C[Fantleroy [1d\]: well
EGC2015c [-\]: Bajanaru won against Mero
Fantleroy [1d\]: that's an exchange
isumi43 [5k\]: Thx Euro
ofbusy [-\]: board seems better for b but playable imo
]
;W[rd]C[hgffdx: why did they trade ? now long game
hgffdx: poor scribe
Krikri [1k\]: Scribing was outsourced to Afrika he is used to ;)
ofbusy [-\]: what could b have done on top ? 
]
;B[fg]
;W[ik]
;B[gk]
;W[pl]
;B[pk]C[Hobbes [1k\]: I wish I could get 30+ points with one almost dead group
hgffdx: be w
]
;W[dk]C[hgffdx: w has more cash right now
hgffdx: but b is cheater, so the game is even
]
;B[hi]C[NightShift [6d\]: does cheating stylework with 35636211 hours on the clock like in this tournie?
Uksus [3k\]: b used sente to attack instead of getting points... maybe he knows, it's his only chanse?
]
;W[kl]C[hgffdx: maybe cheat style only work on kgs actually
]
;B[il]C[NightShift [6d\]: b has just over 50
NightShift [6d\]: w quite a bit ahead
NightShift [6d\]: b needs to make the most of this attack
]
;W[hk]C[Uksus [3k\]: i wonder, how
Holub [1d\]: and i wonder why
NightShift [6d\]: more importantly, when... dinnertime soon
]
;B[hl]
;W[gj]
;B[jk]
;W[jj]
;B[hj]
;W[ij]
;B[fj]
;W[jl]
;B[gl]
;W[ii]
;B[ck]
;W[cj]
;B[cl]
;W[dl]
;B[dj]
;W[ej]
;B[di]
;W[fi]
;B[dm]C[NightShift [6d\]: fun how fast thickness and cash can alternate
]
;W[fk]C[wade [5d\]: pavol's games are always crazy
fuzhou [4d\]: but the game looks still good for w
]
;B[el]
;W[ek]C[NightShift [6d\]: have to hope you can c7 here
]
;B[ei]C[NightShift [6d\]: or does b have more grand plans...
Trucmuch [2d\]: f11 is a nice move
Trucmuch [2d\]: *E11
]
;W[fl]
;B[fm]
;W[em]
;B[en]C[Mikael6789: it's now or never
tuquedenne [4d\]: wow
fatih [4d?\]: g11 not enough for white?
tuquedenne [4d\]: C7 and then pretending nothing is a threat?
storn [2k\]: I guess, not enough
stj1997 [1d\]: black has more threat
storn [2k\]: w must run up
Trucmuch [2d\]: b start the ko
Trucmuch [2d\]: w got no threat
fuzhou [4d\]: g16 
]
;W[fh]C[Uksus [3k\]: one or two actually
]
;B[eh]C[Trucmuch [2d\]: way too small
fuzhou [4d\]: maybe
]
;W[cm]
;B[el]
;W[fj]C[justhinkin [1k\]: oh
NightShift [6d\]: does b dare?
]
;B[gh]
;W[em]C[NightShift [6d\]: n19?
]
;B[ma]C[Trucmuch [2d\]: o19
Mikael6789: N19 huuuuge
Trucmuch [2d\]: only threat
NightShift [6d\]: not soooooooooooooooooo huge
NightShift [6d\]: but pretty big
Trucmuch [2d\]: but it is enough ?
Mikael6789: biggish
NightShift [6d\]: b will ignore all though
Trucmuch [2d\]: w should take
NightShift [6d\]: so now is time to count
Trucmuch [2d\]: B9
NightShift [6d\]: count ignore and count answer and get g16
]
;W[bl]C[NightShift [6d\]: at least o19 should be sente
Trucmuch [2d\]: w can follow ayt J6
]
;B[jb]C[NightShift [6d\]: q16 q14 r18 would kill so need to fix
vaansama [3k?\]: Sente
]
;W[qb]C[NightShift [6d\]: now for the next fight
NightShift [6d\]: f3? e2?
hgffdx: j4 ?
]
;B[fq]C[hgffdx: ah its b turn
hgffdx: im idiot
storn [2k\]: was exchange good for white?
]
;W[hp]C[myysect: its bad for white
myysect: ?
storn [2k\]: seems like
stj1997 [1d\]: bad
EGC2015c [-\]: Fan Hui won against Mitic 
vaansama [3k?\]: Yay
wade [5d\]: i think w was losing so he is trying to make some trouble 
wade [5d\]: do you know if Ali's game is over?
EGC2015c [-\]: not yet
justhinkin [1k\]: is not c 11 sente for both? why dont they play?
wade [5d\]: thanks :)
wade [5d\]: c11 isnt a sente for b and the bottom is bigger right now
myysect: c11 not sente
]
;B[fo]C[EGC2015c [-\]: Debarre won
Catlemur [2k\]: What is the result at board 14?
justhinkin [1k\]: yeah for w,i see thanks
]
;W[jp]C[x0000 [-\]: I am interested in board 14 too
EGC2015c [-\]: board 14 - Kim won
x0000 [-\]: (
wade [5d\]: kim youngsam?
]
;B[ip]C[EGC2015c [-\]: Kim, Young-Sam (7 Dan)
noob1d [5d?\]: I met him in person once in korea
wade [5d\]: yeah he is so storng
NightShift [6d\]: he lost in rapid yesterday
wade [5d\]: to whom?
NightShift [6d\]: the taiwanese guy who won wagc
Catlemur [2k\]: thanks
wade [5d\]: thats reasonable no? haha
NightShift [6d\]: harsh first round pairing :p
noob1d [5d?\]: yi-tien chan is in the egc?
NightShift [6d\]: mm
NightShift [6d\]: he lost to lukan yesterday
NightShift [6d\]: or wait
NightShift [6d\]: miao
NightShift [6d\]: too many lukas's's
wade [5d\]: lol
ofbusy [-\]: i look forward to see kim ysam playin
]
;W[iq]
;B[io]
;W[hq]C[noob1d [5d?\]: f5 makes 0 sense
NightShift [6d\]: it makes a tiny bit of sense
noob1d [5d?\]: doubt b can kill all
NightShift [6d\]: cos e8 is sente it protects g7
ofbusy [-\]: i dont see what w want to achieve here
]
;B[kq]C[NightShift [6d\]: best scenario killing, second living, worst dying
]
;W[ho]C[ofbusy [-\]: is this some insider strategie then...
]
;B[in]
;W[hn]C[rayheart [?\]: seens like  ko
NightShift [6d\]: hope b goes for all the empty triangles
liusasori [4d\]: w cannot play that ko
rayheart [?\]: he can
wade [5d\]: pavol is known for his strong reading so i guess he's trying to out read andrii
NightShift [6d\]: andrii is a good reader too
]
;B[im]C[Mikael6789: they better read non-fiction
NightShift [6d\]: aww
]
;W[gm]
;B[el]
;W[bk]C[NightShift [6d\]: he didnt do the ugly
rayheart [?\]: w looks super dead
liusasori [4d\]: was hopong for b h7 as well
noob1d [5d?\]: e2 
liusasori [4d\]: hoping*
wade [5d\]: g2 next?
NightShift [6d\]: w gonna pull out the f2 madness and go for semeai
Mikael6789: no time for f2, I'm afraid
NightShift [6d\]: is w l4 plausible?
noob1d [5d?\]: b8 ended up being bad
noob1d [5d?\]: now he wishes he had d6 
]
;B[ko]C[NightShift [6d\]: f2 go
noob1d [5d?\]: unexpected move
noob1d [5d?\]: e3 g3 ?
Uksus [3k\]: why ot was weackness
]
;W[jr]C[NightShift [6d\]: presumably feared l4
]
;B[kr]C[liusasori [4d\]: if w kill he has around 90 points and b around 75
NightShift [6d\]: well i don't know how they can turn this semeai into a trade
liusasori [4d\]: but I count it has b dead directly, now if w has to add many moves to capture maybe b can sacrify those stone without regret
Muttley [3k\]: you mean f3 dead?
liusasori [4d\]: yes
Uksus [3k\]: does f4 work for w?
lama [2d\]: f4? are you kidding me?
liusasori [4d\]: f4 is not a good idea
Muttley [3k\]: surely it will be a seki at worst for black- look at the shared liberties
Prodigious [-\]: yes, seems impossible for w to win this semeai
Muttley [3k\]: f4 is a good move.   If you want to die.
noob1d [5d?\]: e4 f4 f2 
liusasori [4d\]: yes surely but i was evaluating the worst case scenario for b
]
;W[lp]C[Muttley [3k\]: ah, I see, sorry- just joined :)
lama [2d\]: m4? this guy is getting tired...
liusasori [4d\]: time-suji ?
lama [2d\]: lama-suji
noob1d [5d?\]: peep-suji to be accurate
Muttley [3k\]: Muttsuji!
liusasori [4d\]: noob-suji ?
]
;B[kp]C[EGC2015c [-\]: w 18 minutes left, b 13 min.
liusasori [4d\]: maybe w is preparing for some yose after
NightShift [6d\]: hope byo-yomi doesn't ruin this fight
]
;W[eq]
;B[ep]C[zudko [3k\]: EGC, do you know the result at board 11 ?
noob1d [5d?\]: e4 key
NightShift [6d\]: pavol seems confident
EGC2015c [-\]: board 11 still playing
zudko [3k\]: thx
liusasori [4d\]: if seki game is slightly in b's favor and if b dead it will be slightly in w's favor. If b kill game is over
NightShift [6d\]: i'm gonna bet on sente seki for b, b plays one big move, w resigns
noob1d [5d?\]: to me it looks like w is simply dead
Muttley [3k\]: need an eye, not got an eye
]
;W[er]
;B[fr]C[noob1d [5d?\]: g2 
]
;W[gr]C[liusasori [4d\]: f1 then d3 for b after ?
]
;B[fs]C[NightShift [6d\]: pavol playing pretty fast
]
;W[dq]C[zudko [3k\]: j1?
NightShift [6d\]: actually fairly close if seki
NightShift [6d\]: i'd still bet on pavol
]
;B[ir]
;W[hr]
;B[js]C[NightShift [6d\]: looks w dead
]
;W[dn]C[hgffdx: looks seki
]
;B[gn]
;W[hm]C[liusasori [4d\]: look b more libs
Hellhuman [1d?\]: Whichcolor is which player? Cant See in mobile app
NightShift [6d\]: b is pavol
liusasori [4d\]: pavol is black
hgffdx: W is Andrii Kravets 6d
]
;B[gp]C[Hellhuman [1d?\]: Thanks
hgffdx: b is Pavol Lisy 1p
EGC2015c [-\]: B+R
lama [2d\]: tadaaa
zudko [3k\]: thx EGC
EGC2015c [-\]: thaks for watching
hgffdx: thx EGC
NightShift [6d\]: thx egc
justhinkin [1k\]: thanks
ofbusy [-\]: thx egc
mberg [2k\]: thanks
isumi43 [5k\]: Thx Euro
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