(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[9000]OT[3x60 byo-yomi]
GN[European Championship 2015 (Top 24) - r4, Viktor Lin (w) vs. Fan Hui (b) ]PW[Viktor Lin]PB[Fan Hui]WR[6d]BR[2p]DT[2015-07-30]RO[4]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[TurtleDove [5k\]: no video stream scheduled today on youtube ?
miniyou: oi
EGC2015c [-\]: On Thursday, we plan a continuous stream with the following schedule: 10:00 Second International Go Game Science Conference 13:00 Lecture by Cho Yeon-woo 1p: Divine opening 15:00 Lecture by Hwang In-seong 8d: Tips for attack 16:30 Review of top EGC boards by Cho Yeon-woo 1p and more
]RE[B+Resign]
;B[pd]
;W[dd]
;B[pp]
;W[dp]
;B[fc]
;W[cf]C[tuquedenne [4d\]: so this game - as well as EGC2015b's is an eighth-finals
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;B[fq]C[tuquedenne [4d\]: *but* : if Fan loses and Ilja wins, Fan is still qualified :-)
maciek [2d\]: Victor Lin is LittleGoLam on Youtube?
maciek [2d\]: lamb i mean
gogonuts [4d\]: and then game 1-8 would be ilya fan :-)
]
;W[dn]C[tuquedenne [4d\]: yeah... would be like a Nadal-Djokovic in quarter in Roland Garros ;)
EGC2015c [-\]: this is last (4th) preliminary round (remaining 12 players = top 6 boards); tomorrow will start playoff - quarterfinals
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;B[db]
;W[qf]
;B[qi]C[tuquedenne [4d\]: yeah but the winner will be qualified for those playoff
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;W[cc]C[Muttley [3k\]: Cool, thanks for all the info, EGC2015
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;B[ic]C[tuquedenne [4d\]: and the loser might be, too, if Viktor and Ilja both win
ufukcus [9k?\]: They are both 2-1? 
tuquedenne [4d\]: yes
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;W[qc]
;B[qd]
;W[pc]
;B[od]
;W[rd]
;B[re]
;W[rc]
;B[qe]
;W[nc]C[tuquedenne [4d\]: Viktor lost against Ilja, while Fan lost against Artem
gogonuts [4d\]: and now one lose against the other
tuquedenne [4d\]: Viktor, however, won against Catalin already : it's pretty hard for him to qualify
EGC2015c [-\]: complete rules of EC: http://egc2015.cz/rules/championship 
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;B[mq]C[gogonuts [4d\]: can players meet again in the semifinal?
EGC2015c [-\]: in semifinals yes, in quarterfinals not
gogonuts [4d\]: thx
EGC2015c [-\]: quarterfinals is part of Main tournament
gogonuts [4d\]: not much choice besides h3
ghaele [3d?\]: i already like b in this one
gogonuts [4d\]: i take w to here
gogonuts [4d\]: not much in it though
kmr [1d\]: i like black up to now :)
maciek [2d\]: h3
gogonuts [4d\]: n3 looks like a psychological advantage, but it's really just played because k4 instead would give w an easy r3
gogonuts [4d\]: yes, w better not get fancy here
gogonuts [4d\]: play h3
gogonuts [4d\]: if not, the opportunity will go away quickly
gogonuts [4d\]: and b will have protected his lr corner without paying a price
ghaele [3d?\]: hyea but invide the side isnt better?
ghaele [3d?\]: r6 or r9
kmr [1d\]: R9 looks very bad
IraTrask [16k?\]: Q10
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;W[qp]C[ghaele [3d?\]: w want 4 corner ^^
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;B[qo]
;W[ro]C[iphone4 [3d\]: yea, he knows the proverb :  if someone has 4 corners, black should resign
gogonuts [4d\]: if someone has four corners someone will lose
gogonuts [4d\]: this is good for b now imo
IraTrask [16k?\]: b can now establish a vast territorial mojo
gogonuts [4d\]: w playing for the corner despite bs enclosure is just not right
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;B[po]
;W[rp]C[ghaele [3d?\]: can b f5 now?
IraTrask [16k?\]: S6
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;B[rn]C[IraTrask [16k?\]: ;)
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;W[pq]
;B[oq]
;W[pr]
;B[qm]C[patcher [1d\]: does victor lin have a kgs nickname ?
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;W[ip]C[gogonuts [4d\]: b shoulder hit?
Heliodor [?\]: Victors nick is Sandmann
pandaah [2k\]: He should be Sandman
pandaah [2k\]: Sandmann
patcher [1d\]: thx !
Heliodor [?\]: and I just see in his info: he likes his "k" in Viktor :-)
lama [2d\]: that depends on the language, hm?
lama [2d\]: Isn't Sandmann the German spelling?
Heliodor [?\]: yes Mann = man
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;B[ho]C[patcher [1d\]: wow
gogonuts [4d\]: the shoulder hit is very natural
gogonuts [4d\]: it was just that b is already so satisfied with his position, that he was lookinf for something safer
gogonuts [4d\]: but this really just great for b
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;W[io]C[gogonuts [4d\]: ws corner invasion is really hurting him in this fight
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;B[eo]C[gogonuts [4d\]: e5 is very resolute
gogonuts [4d\]: it loses lots of options in the corner, but gives b fine fighting shape
gogonuts [4d\]: w has to connect
gogonuts [4d\]: tenuki is out of the question
gogonuts [4d\]: and c3 is too mushy
bitzi [-\]: e5 means black wants to hane j6?
gogonuts [4d\]: not sure :-)
Guyome [2d\]: given b thickness, was j4 too close ?
gogonuts [4d\]: he still had to do something there
gogonuts [4d\]: the problem was r4
gogonuts [4d\]: should have taken h3 when it was easy
Guyome [2d\]: hmm, thanks
fj [6d\]: well gogo... I don't like H5
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;W[do]
;B[in]C[fj [6d\]: I think B would fare better with just F5
fj [6d\]: though I didn't expect J6 now
fj [6d\]: so we'll see ^^
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;W[jn]C[bitzi [-\]: played j6 instantly ^^
fj [6d\]: usually the aim of H5 is to reduce opponents moyo on the left, but there wasn't a moyo yet
fj [6d\]: on the contrary, B might end up helping W to reduce B's sphere on the right
fj [6d\]: if there is no really severe attack
fj [6d\]: but still, W has too many problems (Ko-aji in the corner, weak group and P17 as Kothreats for B..., so W definitely should be worried
patcher [1d\]: which ko ? something in the lower right ?
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;B[jo]C[gogonuts [4d\]: wow
patcher [1d\]: oh, i was asking myself if it was possible to cut
patcher [1d\]: but looked like a  joke
ghaele [3d?\]: fight! fan want to take is revenge after his defeat!
gogonuts [4d\]: that is sure walking a fine line between suji and overplay
gogonuts [4d\]: w j3?
gogonuts [4d\]: but it does seem to seal off the center
gogonuts [4d\]: and w wont get the enttire ll
ohlord [1d\]: what about h3 and w gets h6 cut or l5 and so on?
Prodigious [-\]: does l5 and so on work after h3?
Prodigious [-\]: assuming h3 h6
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;W[iq]C[Prodigious [-\]: yeah this is more like it
patcher [1d\]: wd gogonuts
patcher [1d\]: then l5 ?
gogonuts [4d\]: right
gogonuts [4d\]: i dont see any other plan for b than L5
gogonuts [4d\]: wondering whats taking the time - he cant have been surprised by j3
maciek [2d\]: j3 is                kind of move u play when u think too deep
fuzhou [4d\]: L5 - G4 - J7 - F4 - N15?
apina [1d\]: prodigious, why aren't you there?
Prodigious [-\]: i'm going there tomorrow
apina [1d\]: weekend and second week?
Prodigious [-\]: that's the plan, yes
apina [1d\]: good luck
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;B[ko]
;W[gp]
;B[hn]
;W[gq]
;B[jm]
;W[fp]C[herissondu [5d\]: that's a big exchange
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;B[mc]C[billlin [9d\]: ?!
Prodigious [-\]: wow
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;W[nd]
;B[ne]C[Prodigious [-\]: forceful
billlin [9d\]: p17
billlin [9d\]: never seen this kind of force move before o.o
ohlord [1d\]: n17 at n15 looks peaceful and comfortable too 4 b or not?
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;W[nb]C[wade [5d\]: w 4 corners 
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;B[me]
;W[pi]C[billlin [9d\]: n17 did not help
wade [5d\]: it is as if b played n15 w q11 n17 o16 o15 o18 
gogonuts [4d\]: just r10?
gogonuts [4d\]: its a long way to tipperary for q11
]
;B[qh]
;W[lj]C[django [6k\]: b can live at c3? with f3...
Prodigious [-\]: there is some aji there, but living doesn't seem trivial
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;B[ki]
;W[mh]
;B[nj]
;W[mj]
;B[ni]
;W[nk]C[Holub [1d\]: looks like w should win if he makes this group alive...or am i mistaken ?
liusasori [4d\]: depends on how he lives but of course he would then have a clear lead in territory not even counting he can easily make points on left as well
Prodigious [-\]: yes, this should be the decisive fight of the game
wade [5d\]: i like w's light moves
daniug [2d\]: play light when you re in oppponents area...but let s see if it is enough in this case
]
;B[jk]C[maciek [2d\]:  o9 wasnt light tho
herissondu [5d\]: w looks quite heavy to me
liusasori [4d\]: if w had k9 b probably n8 and quite happy with it
]
;W[kj]
;B[jj]
;W[kh]
;B[jh]
;W[kg]
;B[jg]
;W[li]
;B[ji]
;W[kf]
;B[kd]
;W[oj]C[saym [-\]: go Viktor o.ó/
]
;B[ph]C[wade [5d\]: p10 looks like misread
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;W[ll]C[Trucmuch [3d\]: o8 for the kill ? ;D
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;B[nl]C[Trucmuch [3d\]: yeah :)
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;W[mk]C[Trucmuch [3d\]: p8 ?
pandaah [2k\]: How much time left for them ?
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;B[kk]C[EGC2015c [-\]: w 72 minutes, b 60 
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;W[jd]
;B[jc]
;W[ke]C[pandaah [2k\]: thx
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;B[ld]C[gogonuts [4d\]: b impolitely trampling on the w eyes :-)
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;W[if]
;B[jf]
;W[je]
;B[he]C[asahin: they're playing fast
ToDie [4d?\]: painfull
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;W[le]
;B[oi]
;W[md]C[wade [5d\]: how much time left to both?
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;B[kc]
;W[mf]
;B[ng]
;W[nf]
;B[oe]
;W[of]C[EGC2015c [-\]: w 69, b 43
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;B[og]C[herissondu [5d\]: that's an all in
wade [5d\]: thanks :)
vaansama [2d?\]: kill or resign
ohlord [1d\]: looks hopeless 4 w or not?
wade [5d\]: maybe try to run with h16 or something in that area
tuquedenne [4d\]: b shape is not really cool
]
;W[mg]C[patcher [1d\]: one eye !
Deodred [3d\]: black has to cut Q14 or capture Q10 or w is alive
Deodred [3d\]: with Q13 for w
patcher [1d\]: yep, i would vote for q10
Trucmuch [3d\]: w got one eye :x still not enough
]
;B[pj]
;W[ln]
;B[kn]C[tuquedenne [4d\]: s14?
patcher [1d\]: i guess running around j16 is not possible at all now
EGC2015c [-\]: B+R
saym [-\]: aw
tuquedenne [4d\]: thanks
EGC2015c [-\]: thanks for watching
patcher [1d\]: wow
patcher [1d\]: good job from fan hui
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