(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[9000]OT[3x60 byo-yomi]
GN[European Championship 2015 (Top 24) - r4, (w) Surin Dmitrij (b) vs. Shikshin Ilja]PW[Surin Dmitrij]PB[Shikshin Ilja]WR[6d]BR[1p]DT[2015-07-30]RO[4]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[tuquedenne [4d\]: if I'm right, if Ilja wins this game, the top (at european rating list) player with 2 victories will be qualified for the quarterfinals
gogonuts [4d\]: by rating list? ouch
gogonuts [4d\]: that's worse than pulling straws
gogonuts [4d\]: do you know how the 8 finalists will be paired?
tuquedenne [4d\]: yeah the system is quite strange this year
gogonuts [4d\]: by rating or by standing?
gogonuts [4d\]: or random?
snowy [1k\]: b+
tuquedenne [4d\]: well, it's just that the standing is done by: 1) number of victories 2) european rating list
EGC2015a [-\]: hello everyone
gogonuts [4d\]: ok, not much difference3
gogonuts [4d\]: :-)
tuquedenne [4d\]: and if Ilja wins there will be 7 players with 3 or 4 victories
tuquedenne [4d\]: not even a SOS, it's made to protect the top players :)
kmr [1d\]: McMahon is the first thing to protect those with high rating
tuquedenne [4d\]: of course
gogonuts [4d\]: but makes the game between artem and pavol more interesting if it can influence the pairing
miniyou: oi
kmr [1d\]: in chess tournaments there are much more players, and yet they dont need Mcmahon like systems
tuquedenne [4d\]: so, the top 8 pairing will be done by standing : 1-8, 2-7..., provided that they haven't played during the 4 first rounds
kmr [1d\]: its correct i think
tuquedenne [4d\]: like the 4 last years
tuquedenne [4d\]: the only thing is, the standing has been changed by those new rules :)
tuquedenne [4d\]: for instance if Ilja wins he's sure to be top player because he's higher than Pavol or Artem
kmr [1d\]: in wall list top group should be marked somehow, it would be much easier to read
jigsaw: will egc2015b cover arthem's match?
tuquedenne [4d\]: I agree kmr
kmr [1d\]: i agree with you agreement ;)
tuquedenne [4d\]: the top group is: Shikshin, Kachanovskyi, Lisy (3 victories), Lin, Surma, Fan, Dinerstein, Pop, Taranu, Debarre, Surin, Jabarin (2 victories), Kravets, Mitic, Silt, Le Calvé, Prokop, Dréan-Guénaizia, Burzo, Bajenaru, Simara, Sankin, Podpera, Mero
Hashishin [8k?\]: Roln is pro?? wow 
Hashishin [8k?\]: :D
kmr [1d\]: isnt Kreamer in top group too?
tuquedenne [4d\]: no he's not
tuquedenne [4d\]: I thought he (and Campagnie) was but they played asian players so they're not
kmr [1d\]: how he can have same McMahon score like Ilya then?!
kmr [1d\]: ah i c
kmr [1d\]: ok i know
kmr [1d\]: same McMahon score but not in top group to decide Eu Champ
]RE[B+27.50]
;B[pd]C[tuquedenne [4d\]: because the rating you see on the results page is not the european championship rating but the main tournament rating :)
kmr [1d\]: looks like kinda bull-thing system
tuquedenne [4d\]: they better would have create 2 different pages for the first week, then reintegrated the players in the main, imo
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;W[dp]C[Hashishin [8k?\]: ok :(
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;B[qp]
;W[dc]C[gogonuts [4d\]: that would have been a little messy too, with players moving to the main starting end of rnd 2
kmr [1d\]: yes, that would be very good idea, even better than mice
gogonuts [4d\]: the program used was not prepared for this case :-)
tuquedenne [4d\]: you mean OpenGotha?
namtg [2k\]: does anyone knows about pal balogh?
Reym [-\]: i don't like this top group thing, and we wont see Kim Young-Sam vs Wang Zheming :(
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;B[fq]C[tuquedenne [4d\]: we'll see them in 2nd week most likely
Reym [-\]: but the tournament decider is likely today, at least in term of total wins
Reym [-\]: anyway..
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;W[op]C[Reym [-\]: the other top games are good too :)
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;B[mq]
;W[qq]
;B[qm]C[Muttley [3k\]: b should get a nice fuseki here imho
Prodigious [-\]: should be playable for both
Muttley [3k\]: sure, its going to be playable for w, but I just like f3 being there
Prodigious [-\]: i'd go back to the lower left corner now
Muttley [3k\]: it feels like an extra move for b
Muttley [3k\]: yes, that's my feeling- if w follows joseki, b sente
Prodigious [-\]: b doesn't have very severe followups after r7, so tenuki is reasonable
gogonuts [4d\]: w could go back to c6 right now
Muttley [3k\]: makes sense, though n2 is fun :)
Muttley [3k\]: probably terrible here, actually
gogonuts [4d\]: but greatest insult value
Muttley [3k\]: and that's what counts
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;W[pp]
;B[rp]
;W[nq]C[Muttley [3k\]: ahhh, off we go
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;B[lp]
;W[rq]
;B[qj]C[Muttley [3k\]: see if Ilia r10
Muttley [3k\]: he does
Str1fe [4d\]: u have to r10
Prodigious [-\]: it's not absolutely necessary
Prodigious [-\]: but usually you want to play it
gogonuts [4d\]: but r6 instead would feel speculative
kmr [1d\]: this "joseki" looks bit better for black
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;W[ip]C[gogonuts [4d\]: c6 i mean
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;B[cn]C[kmr [1d\]: d6
Muttley [3k\]: we do have a fighting game, thank you Surin
gogonuts [4d\]: seems dubious to me
Muttley [3k\]: j4 or c6?
Str1fe [4d\]: i don't know about this c6
gogonuts [4d\]: with o2 the b center can quickly develop at need
gogonuts [4d\]: j4
gogonuts [4d\]: c6 seems natural for b
Muttley [3k\]: c8 here I would have though
Muttley [3k\]: thought
ghaele [3d?\]: f4
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;W[co]
;B[dn]
;W[eo]C[gogonuts [4d\]: if b trades f5 for c6 instead, handling j4 becomes bs headache
Muttley [3k\]: transposition
Muttley [3k\]: w could actually make this work with j4 being high as it is
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;B[cq]
;W[dq]C[IraTrask [16k?\]: C3 has high insult value?
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;B[dr]C[Muttley [3k\]: heh, not really- its a natural way to handle the f3 stone
Muttley [3k\]: or rather, use
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;W[bn]C[IraTrask [16k?\]: it does not look very nice for w
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;B[bm]C[Muttley [3k\]: well, consider this: b made 3 groups
gogonuts [4d\]: b6 keeps w from being robbed
Muttley [3k\]: w might end up with 1
Muttley [3k\]: its harder to handle 3 groups than 1
gogonuts [4d\]: now e2 can be played
gogonuts [4d\]: protecting b6 cant be good enough for w
Muttley [3k\]: I wouldn't put it past Ilya to play j3 at some point
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;W[er]C[IraTrask [16k?\]: j3 looks insulting
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;B[cr]
;W[eq]
;B[cp]
;W[bo]
;B[do]
;W[cm]C[IraTrask [16k?\]: madness
IraTrask [16k?\]: D7
Hashishin [8k?\]: b8?
gogonuts [4d\]: b8 fails
Str1fe [4d\]: fails?
Hashishin [8k?\]: why? ;D
Muttley [3k\]: not sure b8 does
gogonuts [4d\]: b8 c8 b4 e7 
sagesse [-\]: black takes e3 and white takes b7 ?
gogonuts [4d\]: squeeze too good
Str1fe [4d\]: i think it's ok for black
tuquedenne [4d\]: there is no other choice imo
Str1fe [4d\]: this is a variation that w uses to punish if b doesn't have the ladder, anyway
gogonuts [4d\]: what about e6?
Hashishin [8k?\]: b8 c8 c9?
Str1fe [4d\]: c9 e7
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;B[cl]C[gogonuts [4d\]: b8 c8 c9 e7  - calamity
Str1fe [4d\]: wtf
Prodigious [-\]: aha
Muttley [3k\]: Strife- don't swear, acronyms included, thanks
tuquedenne [4d\]: gosh
Prodigious [-\]: b wants to give w a dumpling i guess
Hashishin [8k?\]: lol ok fu** im so weak D:
tuquedenne [4d\]: this game will not last long
gogonuts [4d\]: wants to make e6 even more annoying
Str1fe [4d\]: yeah something is about to break
Muttley [3k\]: Hashishin, you too- don't swear thanks
Hashishin [8k?\]: ...
IraTrask [16k?\]: w is now regretting that he was born
Muttley [3k\]: the time to think was before this cut
maciek [2d\]: thinking is overrated ;)
IraTrask [16k?\]: heaping insults is better
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;W[dm]
;B[en]
;W[bl]C[tuquedenne [4d\]: F2?
Str1fe [4d\]: e7 first, right?
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;B[em]C[tuquedenne [4d\]: you're stronger in Ilja
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;W[dl]
;B[fr]C[IraTrask [16k?\]: w can now resign?
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;W[fo]C[Str1fe [4d\]: eh, game is ok
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;B[go]C[Str1fe [4d\]: WOW
Str1fe [4d\]: HE'S A HERO
tuquedenne [4d\]: unless this is a geta
IraTrask [16k?\]: dont think I like b much
lama [2d\]: cut first think later is the classical proverb you have to follow, generations of masters followed it before you were even born so you must follow in their footsteps :))
tuquedenne [4d\]: but it's not a geta apparently
tuquedenne [4d\]: it's still a fight but it's gonna be hard for w probably
stj1997 [1d\]: black is good
gogonuts [4d\]: as in "seemingly" or as in "obviously"? :-)
kmr [1d\]: this looks not good for white
Str1fe [4d\]: pick whichever one you like
Str1fe [4d\]: why is w thinking here tho
Str1fe [4d\]: only one move
HardScore [2d\]: w is in a tight corner
gogonuts [4d\]: w thinking "why did I get ilya"
stj1997 [1d\]: white is thinking to build a moyo
krakengo [2k?\]: w too late
poppeye [10k\]: thinking whole board  strategy of course ..
lama [2d\]: white is looking for the "res" button but that is not supported on the older go boards ;))
HardScore [2d\]: w trying to grasp the essence of go
gogonuts [4d\]: b has e4
gogonuts [4d\]: that makes it a geta
gogonuts [4d\]: so w will lose 4 stones
gogonuts [4d\]: not pretty
tuquedenne [4d\]: w did get Ilja because of this strange system :D
lama [2d\]: it is not about 4 stones, it is 1/4 of white's belongings in this game :))
tuquedenne [4d\]: in a SOS world he would have get Ali
IraTrask [16k?\]: Why does 1d have to play against 6d?
ufukcus [9k?\]: But to be champion u must be better than all right?
Str1fe [4d\]: look closer
Str1fe [4d\]: that's not a d
IraTrask [16k?\]: ooo... he is a pro... My goodness.
gogonuts [4d\]: pass the smelling salt
Str1fe [4d\]: he's not a pro, either
Str1fe [4d\]: he's a hero
KBAC [2d\]: p is an inverted d
Hrewsahgs [1k\]: professional hero then?
Str1fe [4d\]: now who has 3 groups, huh, muttley
poppeye [10k\]: well I would push E8 - but W is thinking 125 moves beyond that ..
lama [2d\]: if white resigns at move 41, is this some sort of the record?
Muttley [3k\]: black does :)
Muttley [3k\]: but maybe not for long
Str1fe [4d\]: what kind of record? i've seen feng yun beat a 4d in 40 moves or so
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;W[fn]C[KBAC [2d\]: wow wow)
ghaele [3d?\]: not geta here
Muttley [3k\]: The shortest pro game was 11 moves
storn [3k\]: b can manage this
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;B[gm]C[Str1fe [4d\]: hero! hero!
lama [2d\]: 11 moves? what happened there?
Prodigious [-\]: b can get the e3 stones yea
Muttley [3k\]: w made a blunder in a joseki and lost his stones
storn [3k\]: how?
IraTrask [16k?\]: I think w was tricked by a pro
Prodigious [-\]: i guess this is kind of a trade
gogonuts [4d\]: ilyas timing is inflicting maximum damage
gogonuts [4d\]: depressing
lama [2d\]: depends
lama [2d\]: not depressing if your name is ilya
Str1fe [4d\]: there's no shame in losing to g5
IraTrask [16k?\]: Is he Korean?
krakengo [2k?\]: trade ? huge thickness for shreads ? yeah fair trade...
lama [2d\]: that kind of fair trade thing you can get certified, right?
Prodigious [-\]: this might not even be THAT bad for w
gogonuts [4d\]: did you know that 20% of koreans are named "shikshin"?
Prodigious [-\]: but certainly not what he was going for
Muttley [3k\]: gee, w didn't play a7
IraTrask [16k?\]: yes, it helpds developed countried be exploited
Str1fe [4d\]: the other 80% are named ilya
mnbvcx: финита ля комедия
IraTrask [16k?\]: lol\\
storn [3k\]: еще не финита
Muttley [3k\]: w needed muttley's DVD "don't fight with roln"
snowy [1k\]: what sorcery is this x.x
KBAC [2d\]: но ля комедия
stj1997 [1d\]: black is roln?
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;W[gn]
;B[hn]
;W[gp]C[snowy [1k\]: yes
storn [3k\]: короче, w managed this)
storn [3k\]: b*
snowy [1k\]: too complicated :<
Muttley [3k\]: b still has the 2 stones to consider
Muttley [3k\]: but I guess b will get sente for that, or they're safe enough anyway
gogonuts [4d\]: must e8?
stj1997 [1d\]: f4
Muttley [3k\]: f4 doesn't work
tuquedenne [4d\]: doesn't it?
stj1997 [1d\]: black f4
Muttley [3k\]: I thought f4 initially but now I'm not convinced
tuquedenne [4d\]: why shouldn't it work?
gogonuts [4d\]: f4 e4 h5 f7 e8 f8 
mnbvcx: f4
alka [2d?\]: f4
storn [3k\]: i dont think b needs f4 first\\
gogonuts [4d\]: better to ask at e8 now, imo
Muttley [3k\]: I thought w could give up the d7 stones and take off the c2 stones
Muttley [3k\]: maybe I'm wrong
Prodigious [-\]: i don't think that is a possibility that exists
Thazz [?\]: The corner offers many liberties
Thazz [?\]: so black would win the race
tuquedenne [4d\]: would be strange to my eyes but
storn [3k\]: Muttley, this is impossible
tuquedenne [4d\]: it's an Ilja game. Everything is possible
Muttley [3k\]: true, and b gets b4 in sente anyway
lama [2d\]: this is potatoes
Prodigious [-\]: i guess just playing e8 now would be safe
Tichu [4d?\]: E8
tuquedenne [4d\]: Ilja's goban seems like french
Prodigious [-\]: even though it hurts
Muttley [3k\]: yeah, its a truly horrible line for white
lama [2d\]: just f4
mnbvcx: можно и е1
Muttley [3k\]: b might ask with e1 also, yes
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;B[ho]C[lama [2d\]: ooo
Muttley [3k\]: ok, directly :))
stj1997 [1d\]: ok
stj1997 [1d\]: we all wrong
IraTrask [16k?\]: b is a champ
Prodigious [-\]: ah, i guess this also exists
lama [2d\]: so many options for black, none for white
ghaele [3d?\]: never let a ponuki ^^
storn [3k\]: lama, white has option
storn [3k\]: to give up the corner and get the side, I guess
lama [2d\]: tell me about it, storn
storn [3k\]: or, at least, fight gor side
IraTrask [16k?\]: w needs the majic plum fist tesuji.
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;W[fp]
;B[es]C[storn [3k\]: majic..
storn [3k\]: sounds like yugoslavian surname
lama [2d\]: hehe
KBAC [2d\]: g5 was brilliant yeah
storn [3k\]: Too bad. But i guess resign soon
storn [3k\]: we won't see a long fighting game
Prodigious [-\]: does this actually work
snowy [1k\]: so if w connect... b connect... then w connect... then o_O
snowy [1k\]: cap race?
]
;W[hp]
;B[ep]C[Prodigious [-\]: aha
storn [3k\]: ohmy
IraTrask [16k?\]: blah
snowy [1k\]: kekeke
KBAC [2d\]: if connect it would be a lagging stairs
EGC2015a [-\]: look like will be over soon
storn [3k\]: lama, this is what about I said. The only option for w. But too bad option
IraTrask [16k?\]: w shape not very efficient....
Grunman [8k\]: seemed b was weak...
snowy [1k\]: never mess with roln ~.~
gogonuts [4d\]: oh
gogonuts [4d\]: this is worse than death
storn [3k\]: Grunman, lol)) where?) b totaly dominated
gogonuts [4d\]: zombie w
iphone4 [3d\]: worse than death, yes
snowy [1k\]: time for w to resign or get coffee
Grunman [8k\]: d 6 weak, corner weak
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;W[hm]C[IraTrask [16k?\]: K5
KBAC [2d\]: h7 works though
storn [3k\]: Crunman, no)
snowy [1k\]: but how behind is w with this?
snowy [1k\]: just ugley shape
lama [2d\]: that happen to killl...
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;B[jo]C[storn [3k\]: Finally, w got a strange little dragon with no life still, with tiny possibilites to attack bottom right, and bad aji on center left
]
;W[fm]
;B[el]
;W[dk]
;B[nr]C[Thazz [?\]: white is far behind here
]
;W[or]
;B[np]C[lama [2d\]: white is in the pub already
storn [3k\]: White has no change, I guess
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;W[oq]C[gogonuts [4d\]: w cannot change his fate
mnbvcx: е9
storn [3k\]: too big level difference,,,
snowy [1k\]: so it is thy destiny
snowy [1k\]: there is pleasure in the pathless woods...
gogonuts [4d\]: just push e9?
storn [3k\]: yes, I would push,
storn [3k\]: splitting
KBAC [2d\]: level diff between 1 and 2 stones is so big 4u storn?
]
;B[ek]C[snowy [1k\]: i don't get pushes like this
Thazz [?\]: at this level 2 stones is a huge difference
storn [3k\]: kbac, the real difference in strenght of Surin and Shikshin is bigger, than one stone
]
;W[gl]C[mnbvcx: это дает миаи d10 и g8
]
;B[dj]
;W[ck]C[gogonuts [4d\]: at this level a one stone difference almost certainly will have the stronger player win
IraTrask [16k?\]: do you get the push now?
gogonuts [4d\]: it's not like 9k vs 10k
storn [3k\]: в конце концов, он не просто седьмой дан РФГ, он седьмой дан, который практически всегда уделывает других седьмых данов)
snowy [1k\]: there's a cut still
storn [3k\]: EGF, то есть
stj1997 [1d\]: easy game for black
IraTrask [16k?\]: K7
]
;B[jm]C[IraTrask [16k?\]: ;)
snowy [1k\]: wanna see artem vs ilya soon :)
storn [3k\]: What about breakfast? Who he does he play with? 
IraTrask [16k?\]: Lunch?
KBAC [2d\]: surin is strong and experienced 6d , ilya is the same but 7th
]
;W[no]C[daniug [2d\]: debarre
storn [3k\]: Snowy, I like Artem' style, but I guess, it will be Lisy vs Ilya soon
snowy [1k\]: ya that too
snowy [1k\]: but 2 new pros gonna be exciting
mnbvcx: n5
namtg [2k\]: f6 group can be die?
]
;B[jk]C[KBAC [2d\]: b will tenuki  o5
storn [3k\]: kbac, not only. He is top 7d. Top euro 5, I guess
IraTrask [16k?\]: b wants to keep pressure on the weak group
storn [3k\]: Hui, Lisy, breakfast
snowy [1k\]: but artem beat fan ;D
ManUp [8k\]: while also weakening the other
gogonuts [4d\]: w saves his stuff, but has nothing to play for
storn [3k\]: yes) I wonder artem's results this year
KBAC [2d\]: f6 will srtuggle and survive, but w will spent a lot of  for this
snowy [1k\]: this hurt
ManUp [8k\]: resign
storn [3k\]: this isnt hurt. This is killing
snowy [1k\]: not even alive yet but even so live with 2 points
IraTrask [16k?\]: w is unplayable
KBAC [2d\]: storn, i dont get the phrase "top 7d" ))    they are all top
gomac: Ilja ahead?
snowy [1k\]: ilya is top of the topest
storn [3k\]: kbac, pop is also 7d, But difference is visible
KBAC [2d\]: sure but yet in terms of european go
storn [3k\]: tormanen is also. but the same
snowy [1k\]: w = T.T
stj1997 [1d\]: L5 :)
storn [3k\]: EGC, could you say about players behavior now?
storn [3k\]: and poses
KBAC [2d\]: k9 shows that o5 was  slow move
gogonuts [4d\]: ilya looking at the clock "when is lunch"?
storn [3k\]: gogonuts. megalol)
KBAC [2d\]: ilya has a nice lunch now on the board
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;W[ej]C[snowy [1k\]: what's for lunch? :D
IraTrask [16k?\]: has he already had breakfast?
storn [3k\]: Iratask, no, but he will)
mnbvcx: d15
snowy [1k\]: f 10
storn [3k\]: g9 
storn [3k\]: Any more?)
IraTrask [16k?\]: E11
storn [3k\]: t19 
storn [3k\]: and b+res
storn [3k\]: w realizes, b is throlling and won;t be able to play anymore
KBAC [2d\]: but now u trolling us storn
IraTrask [16k?\]: B is being very professional by taking his time here
snowy [1k\]: cool :\]
KBAC [2d\]: e10 means w wanna trade the dragon?
]
;B[fj]C[snowy [1k\]: mah move *_*
KBAC [2d\]: b H9 next
IraTrask [16k?\]: there is no way w can afford to trade the dragon
Grunman [8k\]: is this a dragon market?
gogonuts [4d\]: next b h9?
snowy [1k\]: next b want h9
KBAC [2d\]: see up)
gogonuts [4d\]: ah
gogonuts [4d\]:  :-)
Grunman [8k\]: h10 if no trade
gogonuts [4d\]: w death wish
snowy [1k\]: unless w read something deeper than where the mermaids are
gogonuts [4d\]: barely living sealed in would be terrible enough
KBAC [2d\]: anyway w in a gloomy mood now...
wade [5d\]: e11 h9 looks troubling for w
snowy [1k\]: i would be :<
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;W[ei]
;B[hk]C[KBAC [2d\]: w f11 and then o17
ManUp [8k\]: lol @ mermaids
KBAC [2d\]: or h12
kmlck [3d\]: d15 next
storn [3k\]: A silent, calm death,,,
storn [3k\]: RIP
storn [3k\]: nice time for resign
ManUp [8k\]: I'm listening to a thunderstorm (in headphones) and it's very fitting.
gogonuts [4d\]: amazing that this is not the result of a ko
ManUp [8k\]: nope, just a wrong turn at Albequerque.... or d4 rather. 
storn [3k\]: EGC? what about players?
storn [3k\]: What are they doing?
patcher [1d\]: surin is crying
EGC2015a [-\]: Ilja looking little bored 
Muttley [3k\]: Ilya has caught a mouse and is playing with it
liusasori [4d\]: lol
wade [5d\]: surin opening a bottle of vodka :)
Muttley [3k\]: Dmitry is checking flight times
storn [3k\]: I inderstang why) And Surin?
kmlck [3d\]: w tenukied a bit too much
kmlck [3d\]: surely he isnt suprised he is dead?
Muttley [3k\]: If he's opening a bottle of vodka, he's the pilot
storn [3k\]: lol
EGC2015a [-\]: Surin looking on W central group and counting, he look very serius. cant see any bottle of vodak anywhere
storn [3k\]: Thank you, EGC)
ubique [3d\]: Haha, I go to the kitchen for a few minutes and wham.
kmlck [3d\]: vodak is vodka in russian?
wade [5d\]: i think surin is the only one who can out drink silt
storn [3k\]: muttley, to be honest, Surin even with vodka can win 9\\10 of this chat)
EGC2015a [-\]: Ilja looking on other desk, he enjoy the view from his spot
Muttley [3k\]: True dat
]
;W[kq]C[storn [3k\]: Muttley, and he did)
bracchi [3k\]: ilja games are always bloody ones these days XD
EGC2015a [-\]: Surin just stand up and go see 2nd board
IraTrask [16k?\]: M2
storn [3k\]: want kachanovskiy vs ilya and lisy vs ilya
kmlck [3d\]: k4 k3 h2 
Muttley [3k\]: To be fair, Ilya wasn't alone in making this bloody
kmlck [3d\]: yeah
Muttley [3k\]: w did kinda say "I dare you to kill this"
kmlck [3d\]: w took o5 e10 e11 while his center was so weak
wade [5d\]: there will be a ko somehow
EGC2015a [-\]: and now ilja counting, with his typical position- both hand on table and head on them 
Muttley [3k\]: w might actually make an eye, but a ko should be meaningless, no surrounding groups are dying
ManUp [8k\]: after d3 group maybe not a dare so much as survival.
Muttley [3k\]: how can he see the board?
wade [5d\]: it looks he is trying to do something with l5 
storn [3k\]: Muttley, he doenst need to see
Muttley [3k\]: I count black as at least 20 ahead
storn [3k\]: the bord is sinto his mind
storn [3k\]: board
kmlck [3d\]: if w can live here i will be seriously impressed
EGC2015a [-\]: from very acute angle
EGC2015a [-\]: position is on his side of board
storn [3k\]: kmick, u won't
noluck [-\]: m2 seems logical to me
kmr [1d\]: looks like 2 missions impossible in a row
goaway14 [4d\]: who's head on his hands?
herissondu [5d\]: w can probably live
patcher [1d\]: yes, not so easy to defend for b 
EGC2015a [-\]: Ilja´s
Muttley [3k\]: He's evidently using Windows glasses (contact lenses) to convert the board to SGF format and use Score Estimator to evaluate it
goaway14 [4d\]: i see
storn [3k\]: on surin's hands?
storn [3k\]: hmm..
EGC2015a [-\]: no
Muttley [3k\]: And here's the result: The Toronto Mapleleafs 4-0 in the 3rd quarter
EGC2015a [-\]: surin still looking on 2nd board
storn [3k\]: And I understand why he doesn't want to see his own
liusasori [4d\]: lol
Cool [1k\]: lol
GoMaster [2d\]: white seems pretty dead
Muttley [3k\]: handle the cut
Muttley [3k\]: its not trivial
GoMaster [2d\]: m5 ? 
GoMaster [2d\]: or l5 
Muttley [3k\]: m5 m3 and n4 n2 miai
Cool [1k\]: m2 
leachy [2k\]: time to make a run for a bottle of vodka
Muttley [3k\]: m2 L4 is vulgar but cuts as far as I can see
kmr [1d\]: M2 looks good, but white will then L4 and cut probably
kmr [1d\]: L4 for black is what i feel
GoMaster [2d\]: why doesnt black play l4 by itself ? 
noluck [-\]: m3 then
storn [3k\]: l4
]
;B[kp]C[leachy [2k\]: surely this dies
kmr [1d\]: L4-M3-K3
GoMaster [2d\]: jup, kmr
glasszee [3k\]: at what move did w go wrong bottom lft?
snowy [1k\]: w will get nightmares from this game
GoMaster [2d\]: i dont like the whole b5 idea, this move is kind of questional
gogonuts [4d\]: the best w can hope for is a dreamless sleep
storn [3k\]: k4 sente for w?
EGC2015a [-\]: surin is back at his spot and looking at the desk
ManUp [8k\]: was e5 joseki for white? The shape looked vulnerable in that position to me. 
bbred [3k\]: w n2
storn [3k\]: bbred, black cuts. And white get not so big. the main part will die
kmr [1d\]: yeah, E5 was suspicious, but C5 looked for me like wrong direction, i still feels like D6 was better
ManUp [8k\]: I cloned it and just kept replaying it, and that's what it felt like... but I'm no 6D.
glasszee [3k\]: i agree, the kick is what spawned the situation in retrospect
]
;W[jp]C[storn [3k\]: yes. As I guessed, k4 
ManUp [8k\]: 8k learning moment. :-)
wade [5d\]: k6 is interesting 
storn [3k\]: 3k learning joseki
storn [3k\]: ok) that's false) I dont
bbred [3k\]: I think w n2 before w k4
storn [3k\]: bbred . w n2 -> b k3
bracchi [3k\]: w seems a lot confident to be able to save everything here
]
;B[kn]C[gogonuts [4d\]: c5/e5 not a proper combo for double low approach, we have learned :-)
storn [3k\]: lol! connected???
ManUp [8k\]: +1 gogo 
storn [3k\]: on ko
gogonuts [4d\]: still cut
storn [3k\]: gogonuts, where?
storn [3k\]: w n2  -> b?
gogonuts [4d\]: n2 m2 m3 n4 o1 k3 
Prodigious [-\]: with some other pincers c5 and e5 is a thing
Prodigious [-\]: but i have not seen it with the two space high pincer
wade [5d\]: m2 h2 
Prodigious [-\]: oh wait
]
;W[lr]
;B[mr]C[Prodigious [-\]: the kick is on the other side in that case anyway
wade [5d\]: k2 o17 ?
]
;W[fi]
;B[gj]C[lama [2d\]: what is white's plan here? live the group to restore a fraction of his dignity and resign?
liusasori [4d\]: the cat doesn't want to play with a mouse ready to die
]
;W[jr]C[Prodigious [-\]: if he lives with this group he is obligated to continue since he has not technically lost the game
wade [5d\]: he managed to out read ilya that is something
herissondu [5d\]: i don't think ilya ever tried to kill
ManUp [8k\]: Russian spirit. Fight, fight, fight. :-)
patcher [1d\]: eay life :)
wade [5d\]: the vodka helped
]
;B[jd]C[ManUp [8k\]: "spirit"
glasszee [3k\]: k16 is such a dan level move
gogonuts [4d\]: good read, but m2 peep is kind of depressing
kmr [1d\]: wasnt H2 better than connecting N2?now white looks alive
patcher [1d\]: even had time to force f11
bracchi [3k\]: this game is going in the same direction of the one with Pop
gogonuts [4d\]: no forcing w to live is better than letting him connect
gogonuts [4d\]: points about equal
gogonuts [4d\]: but now there are ko threats
wade [5d\]: another fight is coming
liusasori [4d\]: b has free yose points with h2 and p1 too
kmr [1d\]: but after H2-N2 black could cut at k3 and kill rest of white dragon
]
;W[de]C[kmr [1d\]: G17
wade [5d\]: wow
bracchi [3k\]: ok
wade [5d\]: now game over
liusasori [4d\]: d15 look a bit slow compared to k16..
]
;B[qc]C[gogonuts [4d\]: how will b put muscle into ur now?
wade [5d\]: lol
gogonuts [4d\]: like so :-)
snowy [1k\]: aha
bracchi [3k\]: how a player sees a moyo and does not do anything XD
storn [3k\]: the only option for surin is to kill smth
wade [5d\]: i like ilya's humor
ofbusy [-\]: r17 : "i ve got more territory" ?
gogonuts [4d\]: d15 gives w something to play for
liusasori [4d\]: p15 next for b ? 8)
]
;W[oi]C[bracchi [3k\]: invasion time!
gogonuts [4d\]: if he would have let b destroy ul, there would have been nothing to play for
]
;B[ph]C[wade [5d\]: i think that even if w lives he loses the game
gogonuts [4d\]: now he can dream of a marvelously successful invasion
bracchi [3k\]: p7
]
;W[hd]
;B[cd]C[gogonuts [4d\]: keshi at p11 wasnt enough though ...
bracchi [3k\]: :O
]
;W[cc]C[gogonuts [4d\]: at least w needed to got o q11
snowy [1k\]: setup ko?
gogonuts [4d\]: if it fails it fails
gogonuts [4d\]: but this p11 q12 isnt acceptable with the corner already secured by b
]
;B[fd]C[gogonuts [4d\]: nice combo
bracchi [3k\]: I would never think such moves T.T
gogonuts [4d\]: looks perfect
liusasori [4d\]: p12 will be so big next for b
wade [5d\]: e16 
GoMaster [2d\]: looks like white is loosing control of the situation
]
;W[fe]C[bracchi [3k\]: just d16 no? or c15?
liusasori [4d\]: ilja after the game "what ? It wasn't a pedagogic game ?"
IraTrask [16k?\]: when did w have control of the situation?
gogonuts [4d\]: strong counter - maybe switch to k14 for now
liusasori [4d\]: k14 g16 p12 ?
glasszee [3k\]: is the game so close that b must c16? these seem like complicated moves
ghaele [3d?\]: optimisation
Prodigious [-\]: c16 is just a question
gogonuts [4d\]: its a mystery where to further strenthen after k14 g16 :-)
bracchi [3k\]: why to not complicate it? this is the beauty of go!
gogonuts [4d\]: ilya has been scolded for making this complicated for fun
liusasori [4d\]: p12 look nice : increase b moyo on top and reduce movement of p11
bracchi [3k\]: gogonuts: by whom?
Holub [1d\]: beauty of go is the simplyness...
]
;B[ed]C[snowy [1k\]: his conscience?
gogonuts [4d\]: sry not this game
]
;W[dd]C[gogonuts [4d\]: in general
]
;B[ee]C[bracchi [3k\]: yeah ok but who scolds ilja?
snowy [1k\]: daddy go?
goaway14 [4d\]: overplay
bracchi [3k\]: I mean, it is his trainer?
patcher [1d\]: i would o12 instead of p12 if k14 was played.. bad idea ?
IraTrask [16k?\]: this is insulting go!
snowy [1k\]: empty triangle :<
glasszee [3k\]: looks full to me
GoMaster [2d\]: :D exACTLY  not the case of an empty triangle
]
;W[ge]C[profi [2d\]: can't w catch up black with g15 ?
]
;B[ef]C[Faxolema [10k\]: Играют прямо сейчас?
snowy [1k\]: b is inside w T.T
GoMaster [2d\]: f13 now
GoMaster [2d\]: but this looks risky
ngarry [-\]: онлайн трансляция
Faxolema [10k\]: Спасибо
bracchi [3k\]: man just stop with this russian
glasszee [3k\]: i'd rather simplify a winning game than make a new group for fun x____x
bracchi [3k\]: clone the game and speak there if you want
snowy [1k\]: ㅠㅠ
resusou: ilya want everything
profi [2d\]: bracchi, just stop with stop )
resusou: ilya want everything!\\
herissondu [5d\]: this can be killed!
bracchi [3k\]: i didn't say to stop speaking, just do it in english
bracchi [3k\]: like everyone else
IraTrask [16k?\]: why did b have to mess up like this?
glasszee [3k\]: it is the English Go Congress after all
]
;W[fg]C[gogonuts [4d\]: b must have read it
goaway14 [4d\]: english not the best lanuage
gogonuts [4d\]: lol
profi [2d\]: there are two russian players after all, so let's speak abouth the game, not about languages )
Faxolema [10k\]: my english very bad, i speak in my good russian, sorry if u don't understand.
IraTrask [16k?\]: he must have a way to use H17
EGC2015a [-\]: now both players leave chairs
Reckless1 [3d\]: b in trouble
IraTrask [16k?\]: They both resigned?
EGC2015a [-\]: Surin is go out from the room and Ilja just return
GoMaster [2d\]: why did they both stand up ? 
GoMaster [2d\]: ah, thx
django [6k\]: is there some kind of law saying only official language for kibbitz is english??
EGC2015a [-\]: maybe Ilja want some stretch his legs
bracchi [3k\]: here's the thing: if everyone would speak in their language, it would be a mess. Everyone can clone the game to its national room and speak there in its native language. It is as simple as that, no feelings or judgments
]
;B[ff]C[herissondu [5d\]: it's an important fight, they must cool down
django [6k\]: that's only YOUR advice man
goaway14 [4d\]: bracchi clone it in english room please and speak at there
resusou: why russian team only get the fifth  this year? 
goaway14 [4d\]: :D
django [6k\]: +1
miniyou: ok ik zal er rekening mee houden
snowy [1k\]: 오게이 ㅎ
IraTrask [16k?\]: Ef allir töluðu íslensku hérna væri bara kaos.
Hashishin [7k?\]: bracchi, shut up and fokos at the game
miniyou: ik ga helemaal akkoord
bracchi [3k\]: english is international language. and djano, it is not my opinion, it is called civilization and politeness
django [6k\]: uniformity is death man
ngarry [-\]: ащсгы щт пфьу
Faxolema [10k\]: :D
Hashishin [7k?\]: LOL XDD
django [6k\]: don't try to make your law
snowy [1k\]: hey we can chat in english just fine
Faxolema [10k\]: переводи теперь)
ngarry [-\]: focus on game
miniyou: ah politeness.. if you had bring up that argument earlier
Artemy [?\]: Игорь, ты всех оригинальней! :)
snowy [1k\]: let the russians speak from time to time
Hashishin [7k?\]: nice ngarry
Hashishin [7k?\]: :D
snowy [1k\]: plus ilya is russian...isn't he?
ngarry [-\]: yes
wade [5d\]: also surin :P
ManUp [8k\]: aoskay. swine latin.
Hashishin [7k?\]: he is snowy
ZenChai [3k\]: w's consulting his situation with MCAya
miniyou: i guess
Faxolema [10k\]: я сконцентрирован так, что ладошки потеют
miniyou: hatseflats
Mig [6k\]: g 14, g 13 or another?
glasszee [3k\]: i wonder if b h16 is still an active connect
liusasori [4d\]: g14 g13 are the lonely move it seems
ofbusy [-\]: "lonely move" lol
liusasori [4d\]: lone* ?
goaway14 [4d\]: alone
Hashishin [7k?\]: w g13 maybe?
snowy [1k\]: there must be something in this cut and h 17
liusasori [4d\]: ok thanks goaway
miniyou: only i think you meant
goaway14 [4d\]: "is the only one move"
liusasori [4d\]: g13 let some weakness b could exploit to find a way out
Hashishin [7k?\]: ok :/
liusasori [4d\]: g13 h17 then if had g16 sente for the fight
wade [5d\]: g13 g14 h14 h13 h17 seems with a lot of aji
liusasori [4d\]: b had*
wade [5d\]: but b has h17 aji with g14 defense
profi [2d\]: g13 looks better
Mukti [3d\]: Ilja's redaing is top class so it takes courage to initiate a reading contest with him.
Mukti [3d\]: reading*
maciek [2d\]: wow blaack suprisingly in troubles?
goaway14 [4d\]: g14 h17 j17 g16 g17 h15 h18 j16 h17 g13 h14 f12 e13 e12 d13 d12 
ManUp [8k\]: liusasori -- "lone move" would be appropriate for a final move. Just FYI. 
goaway14 [4d\]: white plan
IraTrask [16k?\]: B thought the game was boring so he made trouble
goaway14 [4d\]: black'
wade [5d\]: goaway what kind of 
kolayn112 [1k\]: кто какими играет
kolayn112 [1k\]: ???
ngarry [-\]: Сурин белыми
VPP79 [2k\]: Белыми Сурин, черными Шикшин
Faxolema [10k\]: Илья- чёрные, Дмитрий- белыми
Faxolema [10k\]: угу
madmason [2d\]: p11 looks really lonely
kolayn112 [1k\]: а черными кто и какойдан?
Faxolema [10k\]: Илья- 1p
Artemy [?\]: отрадно, что никто не ответил по английски. :)
kolayn112 [1k\]: спасибо
Faxolema [10k\]: Мб дело в том, что вопрос был а русском?
Artemy [?\]: Неожиданная гипотеза. Буду думать.
Faxolema [10k\]: Я шёл к решению этой проблемы годами
Cool [1k\]: думай, думать полезно станешь сильнее
VPP79 [2k\]: А тут хорошо флудить. Нгарри не ругается ))
Cool [1k\]: он уснул
ngarry [-\]: неу ну
Artemy [?\]: Стану сильным, помирать обидно будет.
Cool [1k\]: не помрешь) ты останешся в наших сердцах на веки
Cool [1k\]: если будешь сильнее сая
IraTrask [16k?\]: admin...
ngarry [-\]: сосредоточьтесь на игре
EGC2015a [-\]: surin is still missing
Artemy [?\]: ху, как говорится, уант ту лив форева?
Faxolema [10k\]: Ай
profi [2d\]: k17 
Cool [1k\]: не пойму кто впереди
Faxolema [10k\]: или ту айс
Faxolema [10k\]: ту айс лив форева
snowy [1k\]: escaped D:
ngarry [-\]: хватит
liusasori [4d\]: why giving so much time to his opponent ?
miniyou: ze maken geen haast om verder te spelen
glasszee [3k\]: gotta recharge i suppose
snowy [1k\]: by this time ilya read every possible variation right? o.o
miniyou: he is enjoying his icecream?
Artemy [?\]: what about time?
goaway14 [4d\]: he read already all board
glasszee [3k\]: how would w h13 fare
glasszee [3k\]: uselessly complicated?
goaway14 [4d\]: through yose
Cool [1k\]: видео у нас есть с турнира???
snowy [1k\]: can they get a snack or something?
snowy [1k\]: it's a long game after all
miniyou: g13 ?
profi [2d\]: I like h13 )
snowy [1k\]: lol until endgame
krakengo [2k?\]: rea lugly fight
EGC2015a [-\]: and hes back
miniyou: with h13?
miniyou: ...
miniyou: g13 i mean
glasszee [3k\]: you jinxed it miniyou
Faxolema [10k\]: Шикшину прочат первое место
Artemy [?\]: Посмотрим на его игру с Фан Уе.
wade [5d\]: profi h13 does look better than g13/g14 moves
]
;W[gf]C[snowy [1k\]: h 17
bbred [3k\]: g13
bbred [3k\]: frist
resusou: somebody must misread here!
]
;B[hc]C[glasszee [3k\]: i dont think g13 straight would be sente
bbred [3k\]: its not
]
;W[ic]
;B[id]
;W[gc]
;B[gd]C[glasszee [3k\]: i have been waiting for this moment
goaway14 [4d\]: yey
glasszee [3k\]: it's all happening so quickly
gogonuts [4d\]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Opx1U0aWgJ0
gogonuts [4d\]: meng tailing about ilya
goaway14 [4d\]: it's happend
]
;W[he]
;B[hb]
;W[gb]
;B[ib]
;W[ec]
;B[gg]
;W[hg]C[snowy [1k\]: omg o.o
]
;B[gh]
;W[eg]
;B[df]C[glasszee [3k\]: i really hope this is a thing
IraTrask [16k?\]: madness
bracchi [3k\]: one of them must have misread something
Faxolema [10k\]: Madness? This is russian go)
liusasori [4d\]: Oo
ofbusy [-\]: b seems cooked
snowy [1k\]: no0o0o0o0o
glasszee [3k\]: i'm gonna say it
ofbusy [-\]: but an outside well is big
miniyou: olla
glasszee [3k\]: i'm thoroughly convinced b read this out all the way from c16
glasszee [3k\]: it's just that brilliant a sequence
Faxolema [10k\]: snowy, http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/
sagesse [-\]: j13 ?
snowy [1k\]: xD
ofbusy [-\]: "an outside wall is big
miniyou: to much wodka
goaway14 [4d\]: seems game over soon
Mua [3d\]: w shouldn't capture d14 directly
wade [5d\]: miniyou there is no such thing for russians ;p
miniyou: hehe
liusasori [4d\]: i guess if b can have j14 sente this loss would not be so big for hime
Mua [3d\]: yes
ManUp [8k\]: glass: when you made the observation about c16, I agreed with you. Even though we can't read it, yu can still sense shape -- and intention -- in the patterns. 
liusasori [4d\]: but such a way to complicate a game he was leading !7
Mua [3d\]: that's his style
]
;W[dg]
;B[cf]C[wade [5d\]: it is still a fight coz h15 group has very limited ways to gain libs
]
;W[hh]
;B[gi]
;W[cg]C[liusasori [4d\]: now b has j14 sente
Mua [3d\]: h12 is not good i think
bracchi [3k\]: I don't see how b manages to win this semeai
Guyome [2d\]: even if b dies, he can pressure h15 to close his moyo, no ?
liusasori [4d\]: maybe he will sacrify to build a wall
snowy [1k\]: ㅠㅠ
goaway14 [4d\]: b13 
snowy [1k\]: 아니 아니
stj1997 [1d\]: bulid a wall win
ofbusy [-\]: j14 h14 j12 
bracchi [3k\]: then why sacrifice so many stones in the process?
snowy [1k\]: it
snowy [1k\]: too big
Faxolema [10k\]: b15 
Mua [3d\]: j14 h14 j12 
ofbusy [-\]: sacrifices makes the god of go happy ...
bracchi [3k\]: haha
Mua [3d\]: or just j14 h14 k12 
ManUp [8k\]: maybe there is a certain wisdom to playing efficiently in tournaments, and saving the play for the sandbox.
liusasori [4d\]: j14 h14 j12 h11 j11 b14 j13 c15 p7 ?
liusasori [4d\]: O
Hrewsahgs [1k\]: o.o
]
;B[if]
;W[hf]C[Hrewsahgs [1k\]: oh XD
liusasori [4d\]: misscreab !$
]
;B[ih]C[snowy [1k\]: lol
goaway14 [4d\]: magic
snowy [1k\]: egc heart attach
]
;W[bf]
;B[ig]C[prius: haha
snowy [1k\]: i see
Hrewsahgs [1k\]: Giga center though
liusasori [4d\]: almost my sequence ;)
Faxolema [10k\]: =)
EGC2015a [-\]: sry, mouse lived own life
snowy [1k\]: p11 swallowed
madmason [2d\]: p11 is in trouble
storn [3k\]: p11 in a grave
snowy [1k\]: don't tell me w will still save that 
goaway14 [4d\]: what next? p7 
liusasori [4d\]: i guess p7 next ?
goaway14 [4d\]: :D
liusasori [4d\]: :)
prius: w+res
snowy [1k\]: b sente~~~
iphone4 [3d\]: it's not a moyo, it's an aiport for A380
stj1997 [1d\]: i guss o7
madmason [2d\]: take care of p11 now or capture them stones
prius: u can see in the video w resigns
goaway14 [4d\]: an half board
]
;W[fc]
;B[ok]C[glasszee [3k\]: all a crazy way for crazy thickness
liusasori [4d\]: o7 leave to much room for invasion at q6 and so on
zima [1k\]: is p11 A380?
iphone4 [3d\]: b a little over concentrated ?
Hrewsahgs [1k\]: It's kinda like the 19 point trick play 
ofbusy [-\]: p9 is very solid
madmason [2d\]: p11 is the passanger that gets run over
glasszee [3k\]: +1 hrewsahgs
stj1997 [1d\]: B= 70.5
zima [1k\]: he seems in a trouble
stj1997 [1d\]: B=70.5
liusasori [4d\]: p11 is so alone
stj1997 [1d\]: B+70.5
dxxd [-\]: seems easy game for b
maciek [2d\]: p11 has no ticked, catched :)
iphone4 [3d\]: ok, do or die now 
madmason [2d\]: upper right "corner" is about 100-110 points for b
iphone4 [3d\]: white has nothing to lose, can try everything in this area
goaway14 [4d\]: white partizan
snowy [1k\]: is there a video stream ?
zima [1k\]: SE says b+70
EGC2015a [-\]: on youtube
liusasori [4d\]: ok time to start a 9x9 game with 8 handi !
snowy [1k\]: but i only get human computer
snowy [1k\]: vs pro
GoMaster [2d\]: For Ilja,"Go is a game of slaugthering"
glasszee [3k\]: analogy of the day award 
notevenbad [-\]: p9 run p11 run for your life
snowy [1k\]: he didnt really kill it...
Grunman [8k\]: is h4 alive?
]
;W[pl]C[miniyou: ye
Eilinen [-\]: s8 ?
Trucmuch [3d\]: s9 
]
;B[ol]C[glasszee [3k\]: eh no need to be greedy
glasszee [3k\]: let w have the r4 stones
glasszee [3k\]: and r7
madmason [2d\]: black can just give up those stones
]
;W[pm]
;B[om]C[goaway14 [4d\]: s8 
madmason [2d\]: r8 
]
;W[ql]C[madmason [2d\]: r8 black passes white resigns ;) special strategy
]
;B[pn]C[glasszee [3k\]: i will keep that one in mind
ManUp [8k\]: Could one argue that Black wasn't "playing", but instead when Black attacked Upper Left, the plan all along was to build a wall regardless of the nominal "lost stones"?
ManUp [8k\]: "fooling around", I mean. 
]
;W[qn]
;B[rm]C[madmason [2d\]: it was probably one of the possibilities for black
snowy [1k\]: it will still depend on how w reply so i would say b have at least options and this is one
ManUp [8k\]: I see. 
Faxolema [10k\]: if u see it. . .
Patze: is Ilja roln on kgs?
Faxolema [10k\]: +
snowy [1k\]: bacon?
snowy [1k\]: yes
Patze: thanks
vladutzni: i can't find the online stream
snowy [1k\]: me too :(
stj1997 [1d\]: s8???
snowy [1k\]: egc halp us
]
;W[rl]
;B[rn]
;W[po]
;B[on]
;W[rj]
;B[ri]C[bill9p: go go ilya
miracle2c [9k\]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5EcSYUKRGQ
Hrewsahgs [1k\]: q10?
EGC2015a [-\]: sry, i didnt read a chat
glasszee [3k\]: b played s11 quite hastily
glasszee [3k\]: interesting to see how it plays out
madmason [2d\]: w captures 5 stones b still leads by 40 points 
EGC2015a [-\]: it should be on youtube channel few lines higher
mnbvcx: пора сдаваться
]
;W[qo]
;B[rk]
;W[ro]C[glasszee [3k\]: i suppose it was just that simple
]
;B[hr]C[stj1997 [1d\]: black wins
]
;W[ir]C[stj1997 [1d\]: for sure
]
;B[hq]
;W[iq]C[madmason [2d\]: n6 
snowy [1k\]: no way for w now
]
;B[pk]
;W[sn]C[mnbvcx: n3
]
;B[hi]
;W[ce]C[ofbusy [-\]: thx for the link
madmason [2d\]: n3 is unimportant
]
;B[bp]C[madmason [2d\]: it seems so is n6 ^
madmason [2d\]: ^^
snowy [1k\]: this board will end fast
zima [1k\]: n3 gote
gogonuts [4d\]: 10*10 is a nice quadrant
]
;W[mn]
;B[mm]C[snowy [1k\]: egc can fool around after ^^
ManUp [8k\]: White can't climb far through that tunnel along the n-line.
ManUp [8k\]: exactly
ManUp [8k\]: lol
]
;W[io]
;B[in]C[maciek [2d\]: time for invasion!
]
;W[im]
;B[jn]C[bbred [3k\]: good luck
maciek [2d\]: :)
snowy [1k\]: to prolong it.... then resign
bbred [3k\]: start with l17?
leachy [2k\]: invasion needs some preparation.....
goaway14 [4d\]: white already invated at bottom
zima [1k\]: imposiburu
maciek [2d\]: start with random move
leachy [2k\]: some vodka?
goaway14 [4d\]: in a begining
maciek [2d\]: close your eyes and throw
ghaele [3d?\]: s18 as question
bbred [3k\]: b can make a mistake 
snowy [1k\]: thats w only hope
herissondu [5d\]: how to stay 3k
bbred [3k\]: yes 5D, can you even remember?
leachy [2k\]: w l17 answered easily by l16 
]
;W[jl]C[madmason [2d\]: wow youtube :  Live Streaming is not available in your country due to rights issues. 
leachy [2k\]: typo sorry
]
;B[il]C[gogonuts [4d\]: get hola
]
;W[lm]
;B[kl]C[snowy [1k\]: where is the link T.T
]
;W[ln]
;B[ll]
;W[mp]
;B[lq]
;W[ls]
;B[os]
;W[ps]
;B[ns]
;W[pr]
;B[nn]
;W[gq]
;B[gr]
;W[ie]
;B[je]C[pastlink [?\]: we rarely see a corner like that
]
;W[ha]C[madmason [2d\]: I guess black didn't feel like resigining this morning
]
;B[jc]
;W[sk]
;B[sj]C[snowy [1k\]: ilya doing well in all his games...
]
;W[sm]
;B[qk]C[ManUp [8k\]: now or never
bbred [3k\]: never
iphone4 [3d\]: Ilja is a girl ?
krakengo [2k?\]: b 1 group
bbred [3k\]: no
Faxolema [10k\]: haha
snowy [1k\]: in your imagination xD
manul [?\]: he is a cat
]
;W[fk]
;B[ao]
;W[am]C[ofbusy [-\]: his sister is a girl obviously
AttoFaas [1k\]: f9 still an option krakengo ;)
goaway14 [4d\]: he is russian bear
]
;B[fh]
;W[eh]C[Faxolema [10k\]: +
]
;B[hl]C[Faxolema [10k\]: with vodka and balalaika
]
;W[gm]C[snowy [1k\]: at this point can u stand up and look at other board ;p
]
;B[ia]C[ManUp [8k\]: or the wall
]
;W[ga]C[pastlink [?\]: how can he continue this game ? ^^
]
;B[is]
;W[js]
;B[hs]C[Faxolema [10k\]: res
snowy [1k\]: its the end
glasszee [3k\]: while gazing longingly at the top right
ofbusy [-\]: who cares to res for a few moves left
glasszee [3k\]: as a single tear rolls down his cheeck
]
;W[oo]
;B[km]C[snowy [1k\]: a drink would be nice
pastlink [?\]: sure they will not count so..
krakengo [2k?\]: have some limo
Faxolema [10k\]: Сурин вылетает, я правильно понял?
]
;W[gk]
;B[ii]
;W[sl]C[billl9p: Как дела обстоят у Динерштейна?
murr: да
]
;B[ko]
;W[mo]C[snowy [1k\]: something wrong ?
]
;B[ap]C[leachy [2k\]: they filled, not necessarily in that order i guess
]
;W[an]
;B[lo]
;W[ms]C[Faxolema [10k\]: дела у Динерштейна- да
miracle2c [9k\]: http://egc2015.cz/results/mainwall
Faxolema [10k\]: )
]
;B[dp]
;W[fl]C[leachy [2k\]: but filling dame and putting yourself in atari....
glasszee [3k\]: phew
snowy [1k\]: lol
resusou: that right
billl9p: lol
glasszee [3k\]: my breath was held the entire time that group was in atari
Hrewsahgs [1k\]: Black would still win though even if that's captured XD
ManUp [8k\]: right??
resusou: so what's the result?
snowy [1k\]: yup lol
EGC2015a [-\]: lol,sry for very intensive moment
glasszee [3k\]: admittedly a closer game than i thought
snowy [1k\]: b+++++++++++++
GoMaster [2d\]: but still far of
glasszee [3k\]: mm
EGC2015a [-\]: thanks for waching
Mukti [3d\]: B+27,5 
Trucmuch [3d\]: b's reading so deep
snowy [1k\]: not close at all ~.~
Titaantje [1k?\]: thx
Mukti [3d\]: Huge margin.
resusou: thx ,nice game
snowy [1k\]: i'm excited to see ilya's next games :)
daniug [2d\]: other results?
snowy [1k\]: egc will chill now
snowy [1k\]: time to check out other boards
tuquedenne [4d\]: so now that Ilya has won, the top player with 2 victories will qualify
miracle2c [9k\]: thanks for translation
tuquedenne [4d\]: Fan has won so even if Dinerstein loses against Debarre he's qualified for the quarter
snowy [1k\]: zamazing ^^
EGC2015a [-\]: many still playing
mnbvcx: who won?
tuquedenne [4d\]: Ilja
EGC2015a [-\]: at least all top boards
mnbvcx: Молодец Илья!
tuquedenne [4d\]: except Fan's
Swiss [3k?\]: i dont see the result ^^
Swiss [3k?\]: ??
EGC2015c [-\]: B+27,5
Swiss [3k?\]: ty
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