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GM[1]FF[4]VW[]AP[Many Faces of Go:11.0]
SZ[19]
HA[0]
ST[0]
PB[yomi]
PW[yomi]
DT[2003-02-27]
KM[5.5]
RU[Japanese]
BR[9p]
WR[9p];B[pd];W[dp];B[cn];W[dk];B[pp];W[dc];B[cq];W[cp]
;B[dq];W[ep];B[bp];W[bo];B[bq];W[co];B[fq];W[de];B[jd];W[qf]
;B[nc];W[qj];B[qh];W[qn];B[nq];W[qp];B[qq];W[rq];B[qo];W[rp]
;B[po];W[ro];B[pn];W[qm];B[fp];W[dn];B[pf];W[qg];B[pg];W[qd]
;B[qe];W[re];B[pe];W[qc];B[rf];W[ob];B[rd];W[rc];B[se];W[nb]
;B[mb];W[mc];B[lc];W[md];B[lb];W[ra];B[gd];W[kq];B[qr];W[hq]
;B[gr];W[mr];B[mq];W[nr];B[or];W[lq];B[cg];W[ci];B[cd];W[cc]
;B[ce];W[fc];B[gc];W[df];B[bc];W[bb];B[ab];W[bd];B[ad];W[ac]
;B[pc];W[pb];B[bc];W[gb];B[hb];W[ac];B[sc];W[sb];B[bc];W[oq]
;B[be];W[np];B[pq];W[mp];B[pm];W[pl];B[ol];W[pk];B[nk];W[nj]
;B[mk];W[mj];B[nm];W[lk];B[ll];W[ok];B[kk];W[lj];B[km];W[jl]
;B[kl];W[eb];B[ga];W[fa];B[fb];W[ln];B[mn];W[gb];B[qb];W[rb]
;B[fb];W[on];B[no];W[gb];B[qa];W[pa];B[fb];W[ml];B[nl];W[gb]
;B[ha];W[bg];B[bh];W[ch];B[dg];W[bi];B[dd];W[fe];B[fb];W[ed]
;B[eg];W[da];B[ba];W[cb];B[gg];W[ge];B[he];W[hf];B[gf];W[gb]
;B[id];W[fb];B[lh];W[jg];B[ji];W[ih];B[ii];W[hh];B[fi];W[hi]
;B[ek];W[hk];B[dj];W[ck];B[el];W[dm];B[hm];W[fj];B[gi];W[gj]
;B[ej];W[ie];B[hd];W[gm];B[gl];W[hl];B[in];W[gh];B[fh];W[ki]
;B[kh];W[fl];B[fm];W[gk];B[gn];W[ei];B[di];W[em];B[gl];W[dh]
;B[eh];W[gm];B[cj];W[bj];B[gl];W[jh];B[fk];W[jj];B[kf];W[kg]
;B[lg];W[ke];B[ri];W[lf];B[mf];W[jf];B[jk];W[ij];B[hr];W[ir]
;B[ao];W[an];B[ap];W[bn];B[op];W[ip];B[rj];W[rk];B[me];W[ld]
;B[kd];W[nd];B[le];W[oc];B[rr];W[ma];B[la];W[na];B[kf];W[eq]
;B[er];W[lf];B[hg];W[mg];B[kf];W[dr];B[cr];W[lf];B[is];W[js]
;B[kf];W[fr];B[fs];W[lf];B[sk];W[kf];B[rl];W[ql];B[rm];W[rn]
;B[ng];W[mh];B[nh];W[mi];B[ne];W[oe];B[nf];W[od];B[if];W[mo]
;B[qk];W[sd];B[re];W[rk];B[hs];W[jq];B[qk];W[ah];B[cf];W[rk]
;B[dl];W[cl];B[qk];W[kc];B[kb];W[rk];B[mm];W[kn];B[qk];W[jb]
;B[jc];W[rk];B[jr]
C[Xena [ 2k*\]: not sure - I've never had one as far as I recall. \
BUt whoever starts the ko stands to lose a lot, so reluctant \
to start it unless absolutely sure of winning.
BrianBT [13k \]:  Isn't 1000 year ko a tripple ko for the life \
of 2 groups, and results in a draw?
DJQuackQ [21k \]:  brian: no]
;W[kr]
C[DJQuackQ [21k \]:  its a single ko
kingo76 [26k*\]:  that something else right?]
;B[qk]
C[DJQuackQ [21k \]:  thats just a triple-ko
Volicio [28k \]: -_- game to interesting.... cant read book
kingo76 [26k*\]:  k19?
lito [ 1d*\]:  and  tripple k is not draw, it is "no result"
ATM [ NR \]:  It's not called 1000 year ko because people don't \
want to start it.
sA [ NR \]:  look here
sA [ NR \]:  http://www.msoworld.com/mindzine/news/orient/go/history/oteai2.html]
;W[ka];B[ja];W[rk]
C[sA [ NR \]:  diagram 1]
;B[ks]
C[WRX [ NR \]: b out of threays
ATM [ NR \]:  It's called that because people don't want to finish \
it because of an approach move that can be made by either player.
AnimeFan [16k*\]: my count is Yama ahead by 6.5 including komi]
;W[ls]
C[WRX [ NR \]: come on gm 7!!]

;B[qk]
C[Kameleon [ 3d \]:  it's called that way because it takes 10 000 \
years to igs chaters to find a good definition
Xena [ 2k*\]: LOL
phenomene [ 1d \]:  lol
Volicio [28k \]: lol
sA [ NR \]:  i found a good one.. see the link!
sA [ NR \]:  history of 10000 yr ko
kingo76 [26k*\]:  what ko threats w have left?
Xena [ 2k*\]: what does Sensei's Library say?
DJQuackQ [21k \]:  wow sA thanks for the link]
;W[es]
C[sA [ NR \]:  yw DJ
DJQuackQ [21k \]:  lol i wouldnt give my definition any credence, \
i'm sure xena and sA are correct
Hitokiri [20k \]:  w desperate now?
DJQuackQ [21k \]:  for sure then this isnt a 10k year ko
WRX [ NR \]: b  no threats]
;B[ds]
C[toktok [ 6k*\]:  no, w playing ko]
;W[rk]
C[sA [ NR \]:  this is 59 second ko!
Volicio [28k \]: lol... yeah]
;B[ee]
C[DJQuackQ [21k \]:  hehe thats true.  they use it to read out their \
real moves
command7 [ 6d \]:  hi
toktok [ 6k*\]:  t7
zort [ NR \]: move 293 =)
DJQuackQ [21k \]:  one will forfeit on time
WRX [ NR \]: here comes :)   but that means w win :-(
sA [ NR \]:  any new bets on final move numbers?
indiglo [ 4d \]:  what time is it in japan now?]
;W[ef];B[qk]
C[Volicio [28k \]: ^_^ even wrx is a believer now?
DJQuackQ [21k \]:  O seem sure of himself to take ko so soon..
sA [ NR \]:  7:40 or so
kingo76 [26k*\]:  closer to 315 0r so
chayashida [ 8k \]:  black's threat made two more threats
sA [ NR \]:  i will say over 315...
WRX [ NR \]: not so fast Volicio]
;W[pi]
C[sA [ NR \]:  including dame, maybe 335?
vex [ 2d*\]:  b lost a pt one that threat, though
mickie [ 4d*\]:  any comment on who is winning from an honorable \
7d+?
hariama [ 3d*\]: Hello.
Volicio [28k \]: there is 7d+ commenting in here?]
;B[rk]
C[suntec [ 2d*\]:  b leads 5-6 points now, the rest are kos
sA [ NR \]:  yeah.. curious about e15
sA [ NR \]:  B lost a point
Volicio [28k \]: noooo........ balck killed ko
sA [ NR \]:  nw W not need ko for point
IronMonkey [ 1d \]:  T2?
suntec [ 2d*\]:  a ko make a big difference, you know
kingo76 [26k*\]:  is k5 big enough?
Volicio [28k \]: i know but it was fun watching
vex [ 2d*\]:  why not k5? b has many more threats]
;W[jn]
C[holigor [ 1k*\]:  it is k6]

;B[oi]
C[janr [ 3d*\]:  now the ko would perhaps be more dangerous  for \
black than before?
Volicio [28k \]: nope wrx was wrong]
;W[oj]
C[Volicio [28k \]: i say 318 or 324
indiglo [ 4d \]:  did they finally give up on spending 59 seconds \
each move?
AnimeFan [16k*\]: O's going to come up just short!
WRX [ NR \]: ok but  b will win :)]
;B[il]
C[DJQuackQ [21k \]:  i think they want to finish in time for anime
DJQuackQ [21k \]:  @6 now
sA [ NR \]:  w p12 big. no?
kingo76 [26k*\]:  i think they want to finish before one of them \
dies
sA [ NR \]:  if B connect
sA [ NR \]:  W has big forcing moves
DJQuackQ [21k \]:  or, what time is it there now?
WRX [ NR \]: i predict again game ends at move 331 b wins 0.5!
Volicio [28k \]: lol.... alll hail anime
daitenngu [ 4d*\]: watching]
;W[jm];B[ik]
C[WRX [ NR \]: b is not bad, by my count! :-)]
;W[hj]
C[kingo76 [26k*\]:  laf didnt even see that
DJQuackQ [21k \]:  lol
sA [ NR \]:  j7 is sente for W, correct?
Volicio [28k \]: you disilliusioned  wrx
Volicio [28k \]: :-)]
;B[ff];W[ee]
C[pajaro [ 7k*\]:  b+2.5
sA [ NR \]:  59 secs before f16
WRX [ NR \]: w 52+
Kamuro [22k \]:  it is not finished ????
DJQuackQ [21k \]:  you missed a couple of kos
Kamuro [22k \]:  I will get the sgf
pajaro [ 7k*\]:  f16, then j5]
;B[io];W[jo]
C[pajaro [ 7k*\]:  get it zipped ;)
Kamuro [22k \]:  ;o) lol
timq [16k*\]: komi is 5.5?
Kamuro [22k \]:  yes
pajaro [ 7k*\]:  6.5 i think
pajaro [ 7k*\]:  sorry, 5.5]

;B[ns]
C[Kamuro [22k \]:  (more than 1600 spectators... awsome)
Volicio [28k \]: server is gonna crash again watch -_-
timq [16k*\]: thx]
;W[im];B[lm]
C[sA [ NR \]:  i guess within 5 years that many titles will go to \
Yamashita
Rauli [ 1d \]:  w+3.5 or so]
;W[go]
C[sA [ NR \]:  seetemove
kingo76 [26k*\]:  niiice
sA [ NR \]:  sweet
DJQuackQ [21k \]:  f16?
pajaro [ 7k*\]:  f5?
tpx [ 1k \]: g5 fine!]
;B[fo]
C[WRX [ NR \]: close game b little better
sA [ NR \]:  g5 not fine!
kingo76 [26k*\]:  h5 right?
sA [ NR \]:  ladder
WRX [ NR \]: e5
sA [ NR \]:  or squeeze, whatever you want to call it
doser [17k*\]:  W+2.5]
;W[ho];B[hn]
C[Kamuro [22k \]:  eh white just played G5 ;o) I said it 1h after \
the game started :-P
runts [ 3k \]: e5
WRX [ NR \]: e5 please
Volicio [28k \]: lol
WRX [ NR \]: Volicio time to get out of your good mood :-)
pajaro [ 7k*\]:  wanna a new ko??
kingo76 [26k*\]:  gnugo still thinks black take the game]
;W[eo]
C[sA [ NR \]:  lol
Volicio [28k \]: never
nameless [ 3d*\]:  hi   :|
holigor [ 1k*\]:  ko
sA [ NR \]:  no ko
WRX [ NR \]: O will connect at 59th second :)
AnimeFan [16k*\]: t3 maybe?
sA [ NR \]:  picnic ko for W, so B connect
DJQuackQ [21k \]:  b connect
WRX [ NR \]: more like banquet ko for w :)
Kamuro [22k \]:  oh they are in byo-yomi ?
sA [ NR \]:  lol @ WRX
Zygen [ 4k*\]: to big to allow ko?]
;B[fn]
C[sA [ NR \]:  absolutely too big
sA [ NR \]:  does B have any ko threats that big left?
Rauli [ 1d \]:  hm, maybe w+1.5
Hitokiri [20k \]:  anyone else d/c?
DJQuackQ [21k \]:  16 points if w would win that
pajaro [ 7k*\]:  no connect=loose title
otso [ 3d*\]: Very close
IronMonkey [ 1d \]:  t2?
holigor [ 1k*\]:  half pointer
holigor [ 1k*\]:  don't know who]
;W[sr]
C[Kamuro [22k \]:  good guess IronMonkey]

;B[je];W[ph]
C[pajaro [ 7k*\]:  O3
Hitokiri [20k \]:  isnt that just standard yose o_O
sA [ NR \]:  this is the bad man move
sA [ NR \]:  i like it
Hitokiri [20k \]:  lol
pajaro [ 7k*\]:  p12
DJQuackQ [21k \]:  p12 no question
JACKY [ 4d*\]:  who is yomi?
Volicio [28k \]: -_-]
;B[rg]
C[DJQuackQ [21k \]:  yeah who _is_ yomi
DJQuackQ [21k \]:  lol!
DJQuackQ [21k \]:  shows what i know
Volicio [28k \]: lol
Kamuro [22k \]:  yomi is an IGS admin that plays the game live \
for us
kingo76 [26k*\]:  yomiuri shimbun
DJQuackQ [21k \]:  they usually get the title name like kisei \
or something
AnimeFan [16k*\]: was that a wasted move that lost points?
spacey [ NR \]:  no
runts [ 3k \]: o3
pajaro [ 7k*\]:  no, b would eventually capture]
;W[fd]
C[pajaro [ 7k*\]:  O3
AnimeFan [16k*\]: ok]
;B[nq]
C[holigor [ 1k*\]:  t7
pajaro [ 7k*\]:  :)
holigor [ 1k*\]:  nope a14
DJQuackQ [21k \]:  what does gnugo think now?
kingo76 [26k*\]:  look at the captures!  daaamn
sA [ NR \]:  W 69?]
;W[sn]
C[Hitokiri [20k \]:  lol
sA [ NR \]:  wait
sA [ NR \]:  plus komi
pajaro [ 7k*\]:  s1
sA [ NR \]:  now 75.5 or 76.5
sA [ NR \]:  76.5
Hitokiri [20k \]:  many faces says w at 1.5
pajaro [ 7k*\]:  t17 decide the game??]
;B[sm]
C[suntec [ 2d*\]:  b win
DJQuackQ [21k \]:  that would be fun
maximilian [20k \]:  is there a demo version of many faces?
kingo76 [26k*\]:  yeah but it sucks
chayashida [ 8k \]:  there's another ko in the upper left, tho
DJQuackQ [21k \]:  its 9x9]
;W[rs];B[qs]
C[Hitokiri [20k \]:  i got the real one o_O
Hitokiri [20k \]:  muhahaha
maximilian [20k \]:  i know the 9x9 version, yeah.
Hitokiri [20k \]:  o.o;;]
;W[af]
;B[bf]
C[sA [ NR \]:  B 75
DJQuackQ [21k \]:  i play 9x9 many faces a lot
sA [ NR \]:  w + 1.5]
;W[sq]
C[kingo76 [26k*\]:  what does 9x9 many faces rate u as?
sA [ NR \]:  wait
sA [ NR \]:  B gets one of the kos]
;B[ae];W[ag]
C[sA [ NR \]:  W + 0.5
DJQuackQ [21k \]:  i think like 9k on average
WRX [ NR \]: sA are you sure???
sA [ NR \]:  nice
DJQuackQ [21k \]:  i think my highest is 5k?
maximilian [20k \]:  you can work yourself up to 7 kyu i think
sA [ NR \]:  not sure
WRX [ NR \]: hmm]
;B[ss]
C[Zygen [ 4k*\]: ko in lower right corner?
holigor [ 1k*\]:  they'll fight the last ko
WRX [ NR \]: lets get to game 7]
;W[sc]
C[chayashida [ 8k \]:  isn't K7 worth a point?
sA [ NR \]:  only dame now
chayashida [ 8k \]:  K10
WRX [ NR \]: w has more    ko threat
Xena [ 2k*\]: this is already a long one - how much farther can \
it go?
World [ NR \]:  who is winning?
mickie [ 4d*\]:  WoW! W won!]
;B[rs]
C[sA [ NR \]:  i have W + 0.5
yujiy [ 4k*\]: w win 1.5 maybe
holigor [ 1k*\]:  but it is black's
WRX [ NR \]: noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
pajaro [ 7k*\]:  c19
WRX [ NR \]: ko at a19
Volicio [28k \]: :P @ wrx
sA [ NR \]:  a right
DJQuackQ [21k \]:  any ko threats left?
Kamuro [22k \]:  what's Oh  nationality ?
sA [ NR \]:  so maybe 1.5 for W
DJQuackQ [21k \]:  oh yeah there are a few
sA [ NR \]:  taiwan
Kamuro [22k \]:  k
WRX [ NR \]: O is japanese citizen now]
;W[ca];B[os]
C[AnimeFan [16k*\]: it's not oh-ver till its oh-ver]
;W[aa]
C[Kamuro [22k \]:  lol
pajaro [ 7k*\]:  w+1.5
WRX [ NR \]: ko give this up
Volicio [28k \]: -_-...lol
World [ NR \]:  hey...what is yomi??
WRX [ NR \]: o give this up
DJQuackQ [21k \]:  h4?
sA [ NR \]:  77.5 plus ko if won for W
WRX [ NR \]: still hope for b+0.5
chayashida [ 8k \]:  G3
Kamuro [22k \]:  (1715 spectators !!!)]

;B[ai]
C[Xena [ 2k*\]: Oh, oh....Rissei
sA [ NR \]:  so 77.5 or 78.5
Hitokiri [20k \]:  lol
kingo76 [26k*\]:  uh oh
doser [17k*\]:  w+0.5 or w+1.5]
;W[aj];B[ba]
C[Volicio [28k \]: never wrx.... have faith in my go god
kingo76 [26k*\]:  groooan
WRX [ NR \]: b+0.5 or b-0.5 :)
DJQuackQ [21k \]:  if w no threats, needs to take away b threat
WRX [ NR \]: you can have faith in next two games..]
;W[mq]
C[Xena [ 2k*\]: "Oh bother!" says Oh Rissei]
;B[oq]
C[sA [ NR \]:  B 77.5]
;W[aa]
C[DJQuackQ [21k \]:  hehe nice
Hitokiri [20k \]:  .5 now @_@
sA [ NR \]:  er wait
sA [ NR \]:  77
DJQuackQ [21k \]:  h4 come on]
;B[qi]
C[sA [ NR \]:  so half or 1.5 win for W]
;W[pj];B[ba];W[of]
C[pajaro [ 7k*\]:  h4 loses a point]

;B[og];W[aa]
C[WRX [ NR \]: b has no threat again]
;B[jp]
C[DJQuackQ [21k \]:  oh ya...]
;W[kp];B[ba];W[ni];B[oh];W[aa]
C[DJQuackQ [21k \]:  g3 at least :|
WRX [ NR \]: very bad
doser [17k*\]:  i would bet on w+1.5]
;B[gq]
C[MyMaster [ 6d*\]:  W+0.5 ?
sA [ NR \]:  maybe more
WRX [ NR \]: b+0.5!
sA [ NR \]:  wrx, you're smoking now
MyMaster [ 6d*\]:  ;)
Volicio [28k \]: they all become believers but wrx -_-
Hitokiri [20k \]:  lol
kingo76 [26k*\]:  nice
Xena [ 2k*\]: what is he smoking?
sA [ NR \]:  no comment
Volicio [28k \]: lol
WRX [ NR \]: camel
go101 [ 1k*\]:  no, hoe snouy o6
Hitokiri [20k \]:  whatever it is i want some :)
go101 [ 1k*\]:  O6]
;W[hp]
C[DJQuackQ [21k \]:  Better off Dead?]

;B[ba]
C[DJQuackQ [21k \]:  ah
Volicio [28k \]: ohh .... good, i hate dissing on anime
DJQuackQ [21k \]:  good scribe
pajaro [ 7k*\]:  ????
Rauli [ 1d \]:  w just L10 0.5 win..
Kamuro [22k \]:  what happened ?
Hitokiri [20k \]:  26 isnt somethin to trust in o_O
DJQuackQ [21k \]:  i dont know
DJQuackQ [21k \]:  p5 got undone
Hitokiri [20k \]:  lol
DJQuackQ [21k \]:  but that gives w a threat...]
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