(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[9000]OT[3x60 byo-yomi]
GN[57th European Go Congress, Semi-Finals]PW[Fan Hui]PB[Surma Mateusz]WR[7d]BR[6d]DT[2013-08-09]EV[57th European Go Congress]RO[Semi-Finals]PC[Olsztyn, Poland]US[Fannai]C[Eduardo [2k\]: :D
Reym [-\]: おはようございます!
Eduardo [2k\]: ohayo gozaimasu ! :D( if i am reading well xd)
JEGO [7k\]: is half the final?
Reym [-\]: perfect :) great game again today! do you broadcast only two games todat egc?
Eduardo [2k\]: semifinals
chagi [2k\]: Bonjour
JEGO [7k\]: yes final tomorow? or today?
JEGO [7k\]: bonjour
JEGO [7k\]: salut à tous les françasi
JEGO [7k\]: français
EGC2013a [?\]: yes, only 2 games today
Eduardo [2k\]: tomorrow
grandaure [5k\]: tomorrow, today 1/2 final
EGC2013a [?\]: finals will be tomorrow
JEGO [7k\]: tomorow final?
grandaure [5k\]: yes
JEGO [7k\]: ok
Eduardo [2k\]: salut a tous xd
JEGO [7k\]: salut Eduardo
Eduardo [2k\]: :D saludos :p
arsouille [8k?\]: Hello, les Français sont dans la place .....
JEGO [7k\]: j'espère qu'ils opposent un concurrent sérieux à Fan ^^
Reym [-\]: Witam wszystkich ludzi z całego świata!
Eduardo [2k\]: fan will win , JEGO 
tuquedenne [4d\]: will there be only one game broadcasted tomorrow ? :)
JEGO [7k\]: no Tv Broadcast by Egc ?
Eduardo [2k\]: egc website
JEGO [7k\]: but no TV on egc website?
Reym [-\]: it started
Eduardo [2k\]: http://egc2013.go.art.pl/page/live
JEGO [7k\]: ok
Eduardo [2k\]: yes :D, b played already, but icant to say the move
Eduardo [2k\]: :p
gfdhff [2k\]: GO GO MATEUSZ
jsnd [3k\]: 4 4
grandaure [5k\]: One player is currently warming up
Reym [-\]: actually the stone is moving
chrayma [7k\]: bonjour, encouragements à nos deux représentants
JEGO [7k\]: mateusz has already played against Fan ?
tuquedenne [4d\]: yes
chrayma [7k\]: yes
Reym [-\]: stone moving around k10 now
royu [5d\]: mateusz had a good chance to win in 1st game vs. Fan
Poziom [1d\]: B+r ;)
Eduardo [2k\]: yes
tuquedenne [4d\]: every other player from the semi has already played against fan
FuzzFace [1k\]: Allez Fan, Vive la France, Vive la République !
Eduardo [2k\]: and all lost xd
Reym [-\]: je comprend pas qu'on soit nationaliste en go
JEGO [7k\]: mateusz est polonais
royu [5d\]: he played huge overplay moyo vs. Fan and fan did usual corner taking first
Eduardo [2k\]: :o truth, i remember
Reym [-\]: c'est sense ouvrir l'esprit et faire rencontrer des cultures differentes donc z'etes bizarre les gars
Eduardo [2k\]: a nice fight and invasion
JEGO [7k\]: Fan est Bordelais ^^
royu [5d\]: the fight inside was pretty close and surma could have killed the invasion imo
Reym [-\]: Fan est toulousain!
FuzzFace [1k\]: Fan est francais ...
bonogo [3k\]: Fan est un extra-terrestre
BrYanwithY [5k\]: When does it start?
Poziom [1d\]: 3min
Eduardo [2k\]: hahaha
Promethe [2k\]: Allez Fan ! =)
Eduardo [2k\]: Fan est frenchinese, :)
Reym [-\]: it's a bit scary how Fan's game are all solid win but never seem so until the end
Rukis [1k\]: xD
rsg [10k?\]: Those are 6 and 7d, not professional, right?
chrayma [7k\]: surma est pressé de jouer
Rukis [1k\]: that because hes pro
grandaure [5k\]: White (Fan Hui) is pro, chinese 2p
holynec [-\]: Allez Mateusz!!
Reym [-\]: yes but can't you be pro and have different styles? like solid vs i don;t' know, more aggressive?
rsg [10k?\]: So why is he competting as a 7d?
grandaure [5k\]: 7d is european rating, no pro system in Europe (not yet...)
FuzzFace [1k\]: Fan Hui is frnech now
FuzzFace [1k\]: not chinese
grandaure [5k\]: Other european pros (Catalin Taranu,....) are 7d
FuzzFace [1k\]: french
radagast1 [9k\]: and there is no 8d and 9d right?
royu [5d\]: what is format of finals?
sylvain [2d?\]: Fan's european rating is 8d, not 7d.
T4L0N [1k\]: Catalin Taranu is 5p, right?
Eduardo [2k\]: is  7d
FuzzFace [1k\]: pdf files
tuquedenne [4d\]: who cares :)
grandaure [5k\]: I think so
T4L0N [1k\]: Eduardo, he went pro in another Pro system
Eduardo [2k\]: yeps, i mean egd
T4L0N [1k\]: Yes, EGD he is 7d.
holynec [-\]: EGD 7d stronger than Chinese 7d?
manofearth [?\]: it's easy 2find the Fan game
bibifoc [-\]: first move tengen !
bibifoc [-\]: ☺
Eduardo [2k\]: hmmm...7d european, 7d ama chinese, maybe
Eduardo [2k\]: anyway, fan will be 8d soon
royu [5d\]: probably 6d chinese
bibifoc [-\]: who bet with me on tengen 1 ? ☺
T4L0N [1k\]: I'll bet against it. ;O
T4L0N [1k\]: ;P
tuquedenne [4d\]: he's 2800 EGF, which is just 8d according to the EGF site :)
rsg [10k?\]: when is this game starting?
grandaure [5k\]: Comparing ama and pro strengths is more and more difficult, e.g. ex-inseis who failed to pass the pro exam can be much stronger than middle-aged pros... 
Eduardo [2k\]: hmm
Eduardo [2k\]: 27xx accorting to egc main tournament
tuquedenne [4d\]: mh I just checked egf site and he was 2800
sylvain [2d?\]: http://www.europeangodatabase.eu/EGD/Player_Card.php?&key=12633346
sylvain [2d?\]: Fan is already 8d, Eduardo.
Eduardo [2k\]: but well, fan become 8d after the tournament
bibifoc [-\]: go go go !
Eduardo [2k\]: sylvain, your link ...say
urtok [8k\]: powtórka z rozrywki :)
sylvain [2d?\]: over 2750 is 8d.
rsg [10k?\]: When is it starting?
Eduardo [2k\]: rank 7d 
Eduardo [2k\]: :p
grandaure [5k\]: I bet Q4 :-)
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;B[pp]
;W[pd]C[sylvain [2d?\]: rank is last tournament's rank.
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;B[dq]C[Weishenme [4d\]: d16
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;W[cd]C[Weishenme [4d\]: not far :)
momiji [3d\]: pros have a certain je ne sais quoi
Poziom [1d\]: dużo to oni nie myślą w tym fuseki:P
sylvain [2d?\]: Actual rank is based on rating. The link indicates 2800 (8d).
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;B[ec]C[bibifoc [-\]: kakari ! 
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;W[do]C[Eduardo [2k\]: yes, xd, he become 8d after the tournament xD
Reym [-\]: egc you know who is playing on the stream 4?
Eduardo [2k\]: official 8d 
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;B[co]C[Reym [-\]: iljia antti maybe?
sylvain [2d?\]: He is offical 8d, youi should read EGD's websiite.
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;W[cn]
;B[cp]C[sylvain [2d?\]: and read the right field.
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;W[gd]C[Mony [6k\]: Semi Final *_*
manofearth [?\]: is rating basis more like chess or tennis
Icare [1k\]: nice fuseki... classic ?
Weishenme [4d\]: Fan , I give you one hour to beat him, I should take a train.
bibifoc [-\]: d6 ?
Mony [6k\]: lol
grandaure [5k\]: D15
Icare [1k\]: no d6... it will follow whte plan
bibifoc [-\]: what is the plan please ? teach me a lot
Icare [1k\]: no idea :)
royu [5d\]: these are the times when you wish gobugobu was around
slowy [2k\]: is fan hui officially french?
JonSnow [4d\]: yes
grandaure [5k\]: yes
Eduardo [2k\]: yes
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;B[fe]C[manofearth [?\]: I think I get ur remark, royu. sly
mike25 [3k\]: otherelse, he couldn't play
Eduardo [2k\]: we are all frenchs now :p
bibifoc [-\]: wow what this move ?
tuquedenne [4d\]: a joseki
manofearth [?\]: I have bn told its joseki
bibifoc [-\]: my god always is joseki ☺
hma [4k\]: all rusian guys are out now?
Eduardo [2k\]: yes
manofearth [?\]: was that a spelling pun?
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;W[de]C[manofearth [?\]: hma?
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;B[ge]C[blurb1: this will cause visa problems next year xD
gisel [3d\]: somehow I dont like this plan for black
hma [4k\]: no :)
grandaure [5k\]: d6 f3 d10 ?
tuquedenne [4d\]: would you like it if the colors were opposite ? :)
tuquedenne [4d\]: probably h16
Eduardo [2k\]: h15
Eduardo [2k\]: h16*
grandaure [5k\]: j16 lighter ?
Eduardo [2k\]: for fan
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;W[hd]
;B[fd]C[BrYanwithY [5k\]: l16 
JonSnow [4d\]: h15
BrYanwithY [5k\]: ok, h15 
jsnd [3k\]: g17
tuquedenne [4d\]: h15 and it's not very good for black
Eduardo [2k\]: l16 is bad shape bryan :p
blurb1: jonsnow know nothing
JonSnow [4d\]: yes
BrYanwithY [5k\]: I have never heard of a two space extension being bad shape
kmr [1d\]: still joseki? 
fbp [7d\]: y
BrYanwithY [5k\]: but it would be slow, I guess
chagi [2k\]: L16, C11 miai ?
jsnd [3k\]: l16 doesn't reallyaccomplish anything for w though 
kmr [1d\]: i really dont like this for black
Poziom [1d\]:  e tam
Poziom [1d\]: kluska jest silna
Poziom [1d\]: i dzieli
Reym [-\]: j14?
Poziom [1d\]: jest gicior
manofearth [?\]: d7?
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;W[he]
;B[hf]
;W[if]
;B[ig]C[manofearth [?\]: i wldn't mind being 
royu [5d\]: found the facebook of a Joe Secky - wonder if his parents play Go
Eduardo [2k\]: o.o
tuquedenne [4d\]: :)
JoeSecchi [3k\]: a relative?
rsg [10k?\]: Yeah, Joe Secky is a funny name
Rackam [2d\]: h13 connect and k 14 ?
blurb1: b think he plays 5-in a row?
JEGO [7k\]: Atari c'est mal ^^ dit fan 
kmr [1d\]: hey am i correct black won all games in quarterfinals?!
JEGO [7k\]: yes
kmr [1d\]: lets keep this trend through semifinals ^^
JEGO [7k\]: white won all games
royu [5d\]: b won all games in rapid tournament
Eduardo [2k\]: w & b
BrYanwithY [5k\]: Go Fan go
Icare [1k\]: F16 is qualified "error" on some joseki book
holynec [-\]: how much can black bench press?
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;W[hg]
;B[gf]
;W[jf]
;B[hh]
;W[jg]
;B[gg]C[Reym [-\]: d12 ?
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;W[ci]C[BrYanwithY [5k\]: He can bench press 5 kyus
Eduardo [2k\]: o.o
Eduardo [2k\]: c13!!
Reym [-\]: d6 for b now?
BrYanwithY [5k\]: I don't like d6
kxk: who plays Shikshin
kmr [1d\]: d6 not enough severe i think
kmr [1d\]: C9 maybe?
mike25 [3k\]:  what b win in this joseki ?
kmr [1d\]: black must play very sharp otherwise top will be useless for him
hjekshdf [8d\]: k16 is usual
erikk [-\]: c11 better @ c12?
arsouille [8k?\]: b must play sharp mean for me, black is behind.
profan [-\]: w has corner and outside, nice joseki :)
mike25 [3k\]: yes, it seems so
arsouille [8k?\]: not joseki, ihmo.
Eduardo [2k\]: l6
Eduardo [2k\]: l16
profan [-\]: but black has ponnuki in center! 30 points!
rog [6k\]: w think d7...therefore d6 for b look like
rareobject: is this really joseki?
rareobject: d6 or resign
Bjondro [8k\]: not realy 30point
JEGO [7k\]: the best way now is D6 black
Reym [-\]: it's just thickness need sharpness to make profit
manofearth [?\]: i don't c any w crnrs
royu [5d\]: d6 has bad value now
Rackam [2d\]: g14 is not very useful 
rareobject: what are cnrs?
profan [-\]: people i warn you, i would play d6,so not a good move :)
backpack1 [2d\]: k12 ? ^^
rog [6k\]: why d6 bad value?
TaoToKing [9k\]: corners?
rareobject: no idea
holynec [-\]: because the 5d said so
Reym [-\]: same for me profan alas ;)
rareobject: a pro said its good
rareobject: but the 5d doesnt agree
royu [5d\]: cause stone at c11 
jsnd [3k\]: d6 now fixes w
arsouille [8k?\]: it's not really a ponuky (J14 is not free ^^)
Eduardo [2k\]: d6 is bas
Eduardo [2k\]: bad
Eduardo [2k\]: w tenuki
holynec [-\]: d6 does look good
holynec [-\]: :[\]
rareobject: d6 is the winning move
Reym [-\]: is it worth pressuing around d13 before c9?
profan [-\]: black now want fight, has to put something on fire
holynec [-\]: fight what
Eduardo [2k\]: xd
erikk [-\]: just c9 is better
rog [6k\]: i dont andestant c11 give d6 bad value?
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;B[nc]C[qwert32: b need sente on right side ooand d6 might end gote if w decide to tenuki
fadjal [4k\]: who is playing ? cant see with my phone 
Ootakamoku [2d\]: o17 really correct direction to approach from?
rog [6k\]: ok
Eduardo [2k\]: o.o
rareobject: o17 is totally bad
tuquedenne [4d\]: it's normal
Weishenme [4d\]: why bad ?
profan [-\]: pincer sounds good and sente
kmr [1d\]: press at d13 will just made white stronger and C9 will not be severe enough so if planning to play C9 i think better to play immediately without any other move on left side
rareobject: just because of k16
Eduardo [2k\]: m16
tuquedenne [4d\]: if white pinces black is happy to take a big corner
Weishenme [4d\]: m17 more logical
Reym [-\]: p17
Weishenme [4d\]: than m16
manofearth [?\]: o17 was 2nd move i thoughtof. r14 1st,  k3 third
backpack1 [2d\]: p18 ?
kmr [1d\]: W - Fan Hui B- Mateusz Surma
qwert32: p17 for w more severe or p18
profan [-\]: if white pincer big black corner is gote (if not misread)
Weishenme [4d\]: if p18, b will directly play at k16
backpack1 [2d\]: so w has to pincer
rareobject: m17 is obvious
Weishenme [4d\]: yes, natural move
hobbit [5k\]: makes w overconcentrated?
rog [6k\]: why not l16?
qwert32: p17 k16 k17 l17 l16 
Tristero [2d\]: looks pretty even
profan [-\]: i agree with rareobject, so pls do not trust him :)
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;W[pc]C[Rukis [1k\]: qwert
profan [-\]: LOL
Eduardo [2k\]: xD
Rukis [1k\]: k17 is terrible
Rukis [1k\]: and so is k16
rareobject: what the hell was that
rareobject: :)
Weishenme [4d\]: now k16
rareobject: k16 too bad
rareobject: l17 better
Eduardo [2k\]: l17?
Poziom [1d\]: q17 mi isę podoba
Weishenme [4d\]: though after k16 , w has L17
profan [-\]: w is making himself heavy :)
Eduardo [2k\]: k17 :/, i prefer
rareobject: k17? really? :P
Eduardo [2k\]: yes :p
jsnd [3k\]: I wonder if he realized he already has a stone right there 
manofearth [?\]: r we surprised that w feels confient enf 2play q17 quickly?
manofearth [?\]: i think w is making o17 heavy
Eduardo [2k\]: l17 , w can to cut
tuquedenne [4d\]: ok guys maybe this game is not the right one
royu [5d\]: k16 l17 feels good for w though
profan [-\]: i bet o15 now
tuquedenne [4d\]: maybe it's just a 5k game and we'll know it in 100 moves
tuquedenne [4d\]: when Fan's father will tell us that white couldn't be fan
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;B[jd]C[rareobject: l17
profan [-\]: :)
holynec [-\]: I am not his father, this is not Fan!! >:O
Serehn [?\]: why wouldn't it be the right game?
profan [-\]: now black is in big trouble
rareobject: too many heavy moves
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;W[kc]C[tuquedenne [4d\]: why not, Serehn
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;B[jc]C[Eduardo [2k\]: :D
Eduardo [2k\]: l15 xD
tuquedenne [4d\]: with those guys you don't know :)
royu [5d\]: this is not good for b imo
Eduardo [2k\]: l16*
rareobject: l16, still gote for b
profan [-\]: he has nothing to dress for final :D
Serehn [?\]: I recognize teh way of holding the stones by Mateusz from the stream :D
FeuduCiel [10k\]: L 17 after k16 Weiss you sow well
FeuduCiel [10k\]: now big battle
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;W[kd]
;B[kb]C[profan [-\]: big battle or small trade?
Weishenme [4d\]: L15 now ?
rareobject: k15
Reym [-\]: k15 and kill b
backpack1 [2d\]: dont think so
urtok [8k\]: Mateusz! Mateusz! Mateusz! :)
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;W[lb]C[backpack1 [2d\]: sacrifice h16 to play q10 
Eduardo [2k\]: nops
hjekshdf [8d\]: anyone have a link to the stream?
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;B[ib]C[Eduardo [2k\]: k15 dont works still
centenario [1k\]: http://egc2013.go.art.pl/page/live
Eduardo [2k\]: now xd
hjekshdf [8d\]: thx
profan [-\]: w k15 now is a big cash?
kugpiug: Hello, are the semi-finals players Fan Hui, Surma Mateusz, Mitic Dusan and Törmänen Antti?
Rackam [2d\]: kopasko?
FeuduCiel [10k\]: j 15
Reym [-\]: no it's fan vs surman and debarre vs pavol
FeuduCiel [10k\]: and r10
Reym [-\]: surma sorry
profan [-\]: Options/rules this is EGC semi finals
JEGO [7k\]: if wj15- bn17
rareobject: finals = tomorrow ?
Eduardo [2k\]: l19
JEGO [7k\]: so good solutions down there
MicMac [2d\]: l19 then l15?
rareobject: k15 is fine
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;W[ka]C[Eduardo [2k\]: :D
MicMac [2d\]: l15 is better
Eduardo [2k\]: u arent reading :/
holynec [-\]: time for a kotastrophe?
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;B[jb]C[Eduardo [2k\]: no ko
profan [-\]: catastrophen!
manofearth [?\]: can't b just connect and have miai: m17, g18?
twejiddong [4d?\]: Didn't they already play together ?
twejiddong [4d?\]: Weird pairing...
rareobject: why? if b can cyut at j15?
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;W[ke]C[MicMac [2d\]: haha
apina [1d\]: fan has played against every three other semifinalists?
twejiddong [4d?\]: not dinerstein
BrYanwithY [5k\]: I like this move
kmr [1d\]: Diner is not in semifinals
Poziom [1d\]: l15 mocne:(
Eduardo [2k\]: :D
JEGO [7k\]: j14 w later for extra ball ^^
tuquedenne [4d\]: yes, apina
profan [-\]: l15 is sente
twejiddong [4d?\]: ah there is a knock down in the end ?
twejiddong [4d?\]: 8 games + 2 KO ?
profan [-\]: sac 3 stones to get big territory
kmr [1d\]: nope 7 games + 3 KO
twejiddong [4d?\]: ok
Eduardo [2k\]: g16 :/
JEGO [7k\]: D6 B now?
Eduardo [2k\]: 17*
Defense7 [3d\]: no time for d6
rareobject: b really failed
Defense7 [3d\]: either j15 if it works or g17
MicMac [2d\]: if sente black failed but i don't think it's sente
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;B[ie]C[rareobject: d7 and w way ahead now
FuzzFace [1k\]: q10 
MicMac [2d\]: i was wrong^^^
BrYanwithY [5k\]: play away
Weishenme [4d\]: k11 only move
T4L0N [1k\]: Tenuki!!!!!!
rareobject: k11 is overplay
BrYanwithY [5k\]: tenuki probably
Eduardo [2k\]: dont works!!
T4L0N [1k\]: somewher on right side?
T4L0N [1k\]: Somewhere?
rareobject: nono d7 fix all weakness
rareobject: and w done
profan [-\]: i like q13 around now
Icare [1k\]: w stones are captured
manofearth [?\]: side extension looks huge 4either
Bjondro [8k\]: q10?
Bjondro [8k\]: but d7 looks important
xio [5k\]: q13 looks like a move 5k would play
JEGO [7k\]: no Fan q10 around or better r6 -r7
Eduardo [2k\]: j15
Weishenme [4d\]: k11 or R10 ?
Eduardo [2k\]: j16*
FuzzFace [1k\]: d17 
rareobject: i have 99% sure next move will be d7 according to w style
tuquedenne [4d\]: R10
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;W[qh]C[Defense7 [3d\]: lol
MicMac [2d\]: d7 looks nice if black answer
tuquedenne [4d\]: pff :(
rareobject: LOL
Eduardo [2k\]: XD
BrYanwithY [5k\]: d7 can be ignored....or it can be played...either way
tuquedenne [4d\]: i'm bad :(
elnicko: you just scored a 1% on that test
profan [-\]: :D
BrYanwithY [5k\]: I like white
zima [2k\]: d6 
rareobject: this style is annoying
profan [-\]: now d6 is not so interesting what about f3? :D
Defense7 [3d\]: as if you are ever going to guess a pro's move at all, let alone say 99%
arsouille [8k?\]: j16 is working to kill K18 or reconnect H16 no ?
manofearth [?\]: none of us thoughtof a short extension
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;B[qn]C[BrYanwithY [5k\]: I did!
T4L0N [1k\]: D7 seems good now. :)
merga [7k\]: j18 is safe ?
rareobject: p2!!!!!!
profan [-\]: r6 faces r12 on third line, isnt a bit antipositional?
isa [3k\]: L3 ?
fuzhou [5d\]: p12 !
WVoron [5d\]: л3
WVoron [5d\]: k3
darbi [-\]: l3
Darchik [3d\]: white's style is nice
profan [-\]: 'd6 now and let'see what happens :)
Reym [-\]: d6 for w? since you don't me to do it as b i'll do it as w ;)
Reym [-\]: oh no profan we agree again, so no d6...
BrYanwithY [5k\]: I like d7 since c11 is a bit far
profan [-\]: ahahaha
xio [5k\]: please don't us
rareobject: q2 = annoying style
Schweiger [1d\]: k11 ?
arri [1k\]: so, all those Surma stones took around 10 points
Eduardo [2k\]: surma is fine :D
elnicko: i'd like to hear more about the annoying style, rareobject. You seem to be the most well versed in it.
Darchik [3d\]: b seems overconcentrated around g14
Reym [-\]: e11 then?
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;W[qk]C[BrYanwithY [5k\]: I vote for a move on the bottom next
rareobject: i vote for some peep at top
JEGO [7k\]: now Q3 white move or D7 move i don't know
BrYanwithY [5k\]: on the left?
rareobject: q10 is the only move
Weishenme [4d\]: w trying to claim 361 / 4 points ( the north-east quarter of the board )
Poziom [1d\]: mo ze sie nie znam ale mam wrazenie ze juz jest niedobrze:(
chagi [2k\]: wow R9, so patient
erikk [-\]: p12
Eduardo [2k\]: p13
BrYanwithY [5k\]: the "only move" has a bad track record.... :)
tuquedenne [4d\]: :)
xio [5k\]: what would be impatient move here?
rareobject: if i get that q10 only move back, my money is safe
Reym [-\]: so it's mroe urgent to reduce w's moyo than attacking left side where there is not much profit to make i guess
gobuk: r9 w playin solid
profan [-\]: what about c10 now for black?
Reym [-\]: p9 for b?
xio [5k\]: k12 ?
rareobject: man, can't you see right getting 500 points? just reduce him now or lose
rareobject: >.>
dxxd [1d\]: I think w diminished the power of b q11 or the like with r9, the direction was important for both
elnicko: thanks for the demonstration of annoying style, rareobject, you can stop now
rareobject: yw
]
;B[pj]C[gobuk: b k12 will help w 
rareobject: yes my credit is back
Eduardo [2k\]: :/
Eduardo [2k\]: nooo
manofearth [?\]: he won't annoy ME further
BrYanwithY [5k\]: the "only move" came through
JEGO [7k\]: q10- R10 reduction move?
]
;W[qj]
;B[pg]C[Eduardo [2k\]: ok
BrYanwithY [5k\]: rareobject should be respected
Weishenme [4d\]: q 13 miss ?
Eduardo [2k\]: q13 is perfect :D
EdhelDil [3k\]: o15 
profan [-\]: white is 10 points ahead :D
gobuk: b playing light here should be okay
xio [5k\]: unless all his stones die
tuquedenne [4d\]: q12 seems normal
Weishenme [4d\]: yes
ChrisHH [3d\]: Black prepares n16
Weishenme [4d\]: as b q&é would be unbearable
Weishenme [4d\]: q12
rareobject: to me p11
BrYanwithY [5k\]: I think they are very conscious of m17 
Weishenme [4d\]: p12
Weishenme [4d\]: is also interesting
Reym [-\]: q11 no good?
Eduardo [2k\]: nop
Eduardo [2k\]: q12 is better
JEGO [7k\]: if p12 danger with m17 cutting move
profan [-\]: wich move now to make shape with r12 r10 r9 ?
Weishenme [4d\]: I bet for p12
]
;W[ph]C[MicMac [2d\]: p11 is possible or is it bad shape?
]
;B[ng]C[xio [5k\]: p11 looks strange
Rackam [2d\]: si q 13 survit noir est bien
rareobject: hmmm p13
Eduardo [2k\]: p13 works
manofearth [?\]: p11 has no existence 2 offer looks
]
;W[ne]C[rareobject: nice for b
BrYanwithY [5k\]: I don't understand what p13 would do
Eduardo [2k\]: no so nice
JEGO [7k\]: o15 w prevent the cutting move
Eduardo [2k\]: but is good xd
xio [5k\]: q14 
Rackam [2d\]: comme disait eugene il voit tout
MicMac [2d\]: p13 p14 q12 n18 and m18 can be attacked
]
;B[oe]C[rareobject: b is gonna win this one
BrYanwithY [5k\]: what will white do?
Eduardo [2k\]: o16
gisel [4d\]: hard for black to win this, he's struggling in top right
xio [5k\]: gisel, did yiu just join? it is invasion
EdhelDil [3k\]: whoever gets k3 will be ahead?
rareobject: too complex
]
;W[od]C[xio [5k\]: complex favours b
EdhelDil [3k\]: Oo
BrYanwithY [5k\]: empty....
MicMac [2d\]: o16 was bas shype too
xio [5k\]: q15 looks like some shape
MicMac [2d\]: shape*
TurtleDove [4k?\]: nice for Poland that a local star made it to the semi-finals
elnicko: ladder favors white,
EdhelDil [3k\]: micmac: why?
Eduardo [2k\]: o.o
xio [5k\]: TurtleDove, we expect b to win EGC :)
kmr [1d\]: white has nice empty triangle
MicMac [2d\]: because o17 will be at the head of two stones
BrYanwithY [5k\]: Edheidil - hane at the head of 2
gisel [3d\]: I know its invasion, but its hard on black, white is strong there
rareobject: p12 is allright
]
;B[me]C[EdhelDil [3k\]: n16 
xio [5k\]: n16 good for b
gisel [3d\]: o16 n17 m17 n16 n14 possible, so i think white is all right
EdhelDil [3k\]: n17 then
Eduardo [2k\]: o16
rareobject: o14
rareobject: wait o16
MicMac [2d\]: o14 looks bad
BrYanwithY [5k\]: o16 seems ok
EdhelDil [3k\]: ok gisel, i thought o16 n17 m17 n16 was too good for b but indeed n14 still possible then.
MicMac [2d\]: hum perhaps not
rareobject: o14 makes double cut
MicMac [2d\]: but 01 give white a cut at m17
BrYanwithY [5k\]: Is black playing a lot faster than white?
MicMac [2d\]: 014*
BrYanwithY [5k\]: time wise, I mean
Eduardo [2k\]: o14 bad
JakubP [6k\]: n14
]
;W[nd]C[xio [5k\]: o16 best simpe suits w
rareobject: b is happy
Eduardo [2k\]: b is sad 
EdhelDil [3k\]: if m17 , n18 ?
Eduardo [2k\]: :p
xio [5k\]: BrainWidth won :)
MicMac [2d\]: m17 n17 capture
FuzzFace [1k\]: b is not happy because he play vs fanhui
rareobject: lol
FuzzFace [1k\]: and fanhui is french, so he have the french special timesuji
FuzzFace [1k\]: !!!
rareobject: you mean dejavu timesuji?
isa [3k\]: playing a strong player makes me happpy usually
xio [5k\]: b played w already and was winning all the way until yose
manofearth [?\]: tenukitime. w has  played inside his stronghold
rareobject: L12
Reym [-\]: that fan hui's style, solid and winning in yose
Eduardo [2k\]: l2 looks ....:/
xio [5k\]: that's so pro to keep going, wait for opponent mistake and the clench your teeth upon his throat
rareobject: l12 is the only move again
rareobject: ^^
]
;B[oh]C[rareobject: my negative credit
EdhelDil [3k\]: r14 ? r13 ?
]
;W[qg]C[Eduardo [2k\]: p12, i was expecting this :p
raptek: ok, who is winning?
Reym [-\]: it's not what happens xio, pro plays solid and if you seem to get an advantage over them it's because you overplayed and will pay it sooner or later
]
;B[qf]C[xio [5k\]: this is close to the bone
rareobject: r14 nice!!
Eduardo [2k\]: ko :D
EdhelDil [3k\]: r15 
xio [5k\]: could have been the case Reym, but b made quite simple mistake there too
martin3141 [4d\]: simply q14
raptek: black or white?
Bauer [1d\]: r15
Reym [-\]: yes true, but in anycase being ahead of a pro is the main mistake ;)
xio [5k\]: lol
manofearth [?\]: tuff move
EdhelDil [3k\]: ah, q14 indeed ^^ silly me thought b could q15 
martin3141 [4d\]: idk what blacks plan is
Eduardo [2k\]: b is looking r15, i think
MicMac [2d\]: if q15 black can live in corner?
manofearth [?\]: b wants q14
]
;W[qe]C[Eduardo [2k\]: r14 is a nice move
]
;B[pi]C[JEGO [7k\]: no q14
EdhelDil [3k\]: yay ^^ 
EdhelDil [3k\]: w will tenuki
Eduardo [2k\]: nop
backpack1 [2d\]: never
chrayma [7k\]: Q8 possible ?
]
;W[qi]C[xio [5k\]: tenuki bad
xio [5k\]: q14 and both happy
Eduardo [2k\]: b is ...... o.o
samowar [1d\]: q8 full of holes
samowar [1d\]: q14 looks small
ShuiTa: k12
samowar [1d\]: maybe sth like p8/o10? o10 looks better
xio [5k\]: small but sente
Eduardo [2k\]: q14 isnt small
Eduardo [2k\]: but b need other move first, i think
JEGO [7k\]: Q9 seem necessary for black now
EdhelDil [3k\]: k3 
MicMac [2d\]: m12 
xio [5k\]: q9 big
rareobject: p9
gisel [4d\]: q9 would be bad, o10 or n10 if b want to protect
samowar [1d\]: well, after q14  w could pla sth like  q9 to threaten b so it's not that sente 
Eduardo [2k\]: m13
rareobject: l12
xio [5k\]: or m12
backpack1 [2d\]: p8 ?
rareobject: or just q14 
samowar [1d\]: m12 seems a little bit too far away
MicMac [2d\]: m12 as n17 as follow up or k12
chrayma [7k\]: k12
gisel [4d\]: k12 might be good here, but i think it might be too slow for black
Eduardo [2k\]: m13!
Eduardo [2k\]: xd
rareobject: or p8 q9 p9 p11 p10 o11 m12 
rog [6k\]: w is strog
Weishenme [4d\]: hum , this erosion or invasion is  not a succes for b: w is strong , b is floating, very few bad aji
ayslcmn [?\]: is fan hui a pro??
rog [6k\]: strong
cartoon [4k\]: could one pls. tell who.s playing? can.t see on android
isa [3k\]: fan hui is pro
samowar [1d\]: fan hui vs surma
xio [5k\]: fan hui on w vs Mateusz surma on b
cartoon [4k\]: !ty
]
;B[ck]C[Eduardo [2k\]: o.o
xio [5k\]: didn't expect a tenuki
EdhelDil [3k\]: interresting
manofearth [?\]: that's a pretty serious drawbback of  Android
rareobject: he want to broken the horriblid breakfast style
rareobject: want to turn the game in a bit of mess
Eduardo [2k\]: g6
raptek: I think that whit is winning now
raptek: ?
slender [2d\]: even
EdhelDil [3k\]: d7 still ?
Reym [-\]: d13
rareobject: c9 was very strange
rareobject: but b wants mess he will have mess
xio [5k\]: not if w responds
manofearth [?\]: i did( but not c9, of course)
samowar [1d\]: guys, what's the status of h16? after g18 it looks troublesome
leffy [3d\]: how else can b use the thickness of g13
EdhelDil [3k\]: c13 would be very solid, and b6 followup would then be lessened ?
xio [5k\]: h16 is happily dead I think
EdhelDil [3k\]: samovar: indeed it seems b needs to capture h16 at some point, so territory value is lessened
Bauer [1d\]: wh16 has not enouph libs to come to life
Eduardo [2k\]: h16 is aji
Eduardo [2k\]: w d17
rareobject: h16 is fresh meat
gisel [4d\]: simply d6 here?
xio [5k\]: not even that fresh
arsouille [8k?\]: h16 next h18 is not working for white ?
xio [5k\]: it's been still for a long while
rareobject: starting to stink so
arsouille [8k?\]: too early but working no ?
Weishenme [4d\]: c18 ?
xio [5k\]: working no
Bauer [1d\]: @Eduardo wd17 looks good
MicMac [2d\]: white has around 40 in top right, black has 20 at top + "2 * 10 in corner  i have the feeling that black is better
samowar [1d\]: hum, hopefully he'll fix his group at q11
gisel [4d\]: not really micMac, it might be about even in terms of territory, but w has a lot of potential to attack black
MicMac [2d\]: really?
MicMac [2d\]: i see more potential for black
xio [5k\]: didn't just b attack w just a moment ago?
dxxd [1d\]: there should be no problem... g18 g17 h17 h18 f17 e18?
MicMac [2d\]: h13 ponuki is very poverfull
Eduardo [2k\]: h16 is dead
]
;W[dn]C[dxxd [1d\]: yes, sure
MicMac [2d\]: white don't have so much influence now
gisel [4d\]: b have more potential to make territory, but q11 is weak, and this invasion might be hard on black too
samowar [1d\]: gisel, but left side looks vulnerable as well
]
;B[fq]C[Reym [-\]: e11?
MicMac [2d\]: yes before seeing what happens here it's hard to evaluate
Shigure [-\]: d4 ?
raptek: jai jest czas dla graczy?
raptek: how much time have players?
PRosen [2d\]: 150 min
chrayma [7k\]: 2 h 30
gisel [4d\]: i think he asks how much time do they have left
Reym [-\]: plenty
EdhelDil [3k\]: d10 ?
raptek: both
manofearth [?\]: i'd much rather be b. more possiblities
xio [5k\]: they know, just trolling mildly
Anquetil [1k\]: Id rather be w, he is invincible
]
;W[dj]C[EdhelDil [3k\]: \\o/
manofearth [?\]: they r not trolling. just want  dfesperately 2b part of converstion
TurtleDove [4k?\]: big day for B. if he wins, his status in the European game rises significantly. must be nervous
Anquetil [1k\]: no need to be nervous, he has nothing to lose here
Reym [-\]: his status is already great
kmr [1d\]: black already did well
barrskog [1d\]: white is more nervous, if he lose, he really lose
barrskog [1d\]: alot
Anquetil [1k\]: white will win, so he has no need to be nervous either
EdhelDil [3k\]: turtledove: and for w, every game is a possible big defeat, so he's doomed to try to win all his games, making it harder too...
xio [5k\]: nooo, w cannot lose his alot
backpack1 [2d\]: i dont think w will loose this, in fact he ll probably be the next champion ^^
samowar [1d\]: dxxd, seems w can get a ko 
kmr [1d\]: dealing with being favorite is a part of skill i have no doubt Fan is good in this too
MicMac [2d\]: if black only live here white it will be nice for white
barrskog [1d\]: yes he lose alot of his alot
TurtleDove [4k?\]: true, for W expected to win there is much pressure
EdhelDil [3k\]: xio: "alot is better at you than anything" ^^
gisel [4d\]: but ive been wondering, what haappens when w plays h18? it seems black cant catch it otherwise than in ko?
EdhelDil [3k\]: (iirc)
slender [2d\]: seki
samowar [1d\]: gisel, i was thinking about g18, there should be a ko
samowar [1d\]: i think:P
xio [5k\]: does it mean that anything is worse at me than alot?
tuquedenne [4d\]: h18 g18 then ?
dxxd [1d\]: samowar, b can just fill the liberties, b won't take any ko
EdhelDil [3k\]: xio: it was http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.fr/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html
dxxd [1d\]: I have known to make serious mistakes though :)
gisel [4d\]: no, g18 black can capture
Reym [-\]: g18 then h18 then capture
gisel [4d\]: g18 g17 h17 h18 h18 f17 e18 h19 j16 
tuquedenne [4d\]: what after h18 g18 then gisel ? :)
]
;B[bl]C[JEGO [7k\]: C13-c14 move?
EdhelDil [3k\]: h18 g18 h19 ?
EdhelDil [3k\]: d9 
tuquedenne [4d\]: then h17 and black wins the semeai
samowar [1d\]: thanks, g18 doesn't work:-)
JEGO [7k\]: b6?
arsouille [8k?\]: fan is thinking longer time as previous game
xio [5k\]: I like 'better at you' version alot more :)
apina [1d\]: or mateusz thinking less than his earlier opps?
EdhelDil [3k\]: xio: ^^
gisel [4d\]: h18 g18 h17 h19 f18 f17 g17 g19 j19 k19 f19 j19 k15 
gisel [4d\]: but right, its kinda silly, w losses more
arsouille [8k?\]: gisel, what about WJ16 next H18 ?
raptek: eh, badu is magical game, I have not played many years, but know I want to.
raptek: *baduk
raptek: *now
tuquedenne [4d\]: yes gisel and even black can play g17 instead of f17, it's even worse for w
TurtleDove [4k?\]: register here is free
]
;W[bm]C[JEGO [7k\]: b6-b7 so
]
;B[dl]C[EdhelDil [3k\]: e8 
jakotaki [1d\]: das good
xio [5k\]: das boot
Julchen: gisel - after black h18, isn't  h17 tesuji? making kind of crow's nest
JEGO [7k\]: e8 not good G6 white i see
EdhelDil [3k\]: e8 e7 d7 e9 d9 seems an option?
EdhelDil [3k\]: e8 e7 d7 e9 f8 even simpler
blurb1: how abaout e8 e9?
EdhelDil [3k\]: e8 e9 e7 
blurb1: connect
JEGO [7k\]: also there the E9 semeai choice for Fan
sereni: Semeai? he, he
EdhelDil [3k\]: that's why i liked d9 better than b7 ... but let's see how fan handle this
EdhelDil [3k\]: d9 b6 and w could take sente
blurb1: d9 f8?
JEGO [7k\]: no a pro move is E9 pressure
]
;W[el]C[JEGO [7k\]: e8 good also
]
;B[em]
(;W[fl]C[EdhelDil [3k\]: ohh
])
(;W[dm]
;B[ek]
;W[fl]
;B[dk]C[EdhelDil [3k\]: ^^
EdhelDil [3k\]: f6 
]
;W[fm]C[MicMac [2d\]: h18 g18 h17 k15 semmes to work
JEGO [7k\]: problem of E8 black doesn't give up
tuquedenne [4d\]: mateusz is playing a good game
MicMac [2d\]: more simple h18 g18 h17 j19
Maek [3d\]: isnt w ahead?
slender [2d\]: a little ahead now
slender [2d\]: black ahead
blurb1: a good tournament however this ends
]
;B[fk]C[Coreon [3k\]: in which city is the EGC this year?
Coreon [3k\]: is it in Poland?
EGC2013a [?\]: Olsztyn
EGC2013a [?\]: in Poland
]
;W[dg]C[dsfafewf: f6
backpack1 [2d\]: f5 ?
JEGO [7k\]: now big moves for black such as o3 k4 ans c18 choices
Poziom [1d\]: : D
isa [3k\]: c18 doesn't look so big
JEGO [7k\]: yes it is
floating [2k\]: if b is 17 years old and wins this game after winning antti in egc knock-out stage.. Isn't it like a best young talent tournament performance in euro go history ? Or has some of these guys played this well earlier when they were this young
JEGO [7k\]: Q9 still an good option i think
blurb1: c18 id say 20 at least
fbp [7d\]: ilya won egc his age
Reym [-\]: lisy pavol also
fbp [7d\]: maybe
floating [2k\]: oh ok :)
JEGO [7k\]: Tanguy Le Calvé 18 years also french
BoSunHac [4d\]: they are all this young ... amazing wqould be someone 60+ :)
JEGO [7k\]: i am 60 + LOL
BoSunHac [4d\]: but you aint gonna win the egc, sorry :)
Reym [-\]: performances peaks at 18
JEGO [7k\]: sure
floating [2k\]: but the pro's peak more like 24-30 ?
]
;B[fn]C[dsfafewf: my boy!
Reym [-\]: g6
JEGO [7k\]: amazing
JEGO [7k\]: white bad shape so
JamesJoker [1k\]: i am not convinced....
arsouille [8k?\]: if G6 white get a very bad shape
chrayma [7k\]: F5 ?
phong [3k\]: vote for g6
JamesJoker [1k\]: me too :-)
rousseau [11k\]: had game for w, isnt it?
Reym [-\]: bad shape is good shape when played by a pro
slender [2d\]: b take big money at the bottom
henryy07 [2k\]: bad shape is a bad shape i suppose;\]
Reym [-\]: ok maybe :)
floating [2k\]: I thought ilya, antti, pavol and others are now beginning to enter the best age... 24-30 .. Actually I have no idea of what age is pavol 
]
;W[en]C[dsfafewf: g6
blurb1: bad shape was price of d13 i guess
floating [2k\]: but sure best age to make leaps in improving the game is there at teen ages
TurtleDove [4k?\]: one false eye doesn't make bad shape ?
dsfafewf: w shape is horrible
tuquedenne [4d\]: pavol is 18
backpack1 [2d\]: g6 is so painful for white ^^
floating [2k\]: ah ok
xio [5k\]: g6 h8?
urtok [8k\]: g6
xio [5k\]: maybe even g9 first
maciek [2d\]: dajesz Mateusz!! do boju !!
JEGO [7k\]: f5 also
Anquetil [1k\]: G6
xio [5k\]: f5 not so urgent
gisel [4d\]: and i was gone like 15 mins and w got himself into  nice attack
garance [3k\]: Allez Fan Hui, les Carbonnais sont là ! ^^
zima [2k\]: g5 
gisel [4d\]: b need to make like 20-25 points on bottom and he's good
MicMac [2d\]: gisel it was you who was considering h18?
urtok [8k\]: L3
urtok [8k\]: K12
]
;B[hl]C[maciek [2d\]: 40 points in upper right, what a cheat!
xio [5k\]: h8 famous annoying style?
]
;W[ep]C[maciek [2d\]: znowu niestety cala nadzieja ze czarny wezmie ze 20 punktow w centrum, nie dobrze to wyglada
xio [5k\]: niedobrze pisze sie razem :0
maciek [2d\]: no ale, wczoraj tez dobrze nie wygladalo :--)
maciek [2d\]: powaznie?
xio [5k\]: tak
maciek [2d\]: to nienajlepiej ze mna, znaczy bardzo nedobrze
gisel [4d\]: maciek, moze być i  na dole 20 pkt
maciek [2d\]: no ale policzylem ze bialy bedzie mial minimum 60
xio [5k\]: mamy przesrane, ze przedimek przeczacy jest taki sam jak przeczenie ;)
gisel [4d\]: no takie min 65
maciek [2d\]: czarny ma ile, 18 u gory
maciek [2d\]: 12 w lewym dolnym...
gisel [4d\]: czarny ma ze 40
Maek [3d\]: g2?
Maek [3d\]: nie no bez sensu
Maek [3d\]: e3 musi
maciek [2d\]: tenuki niech zagra
maciek [2d\]: i zamuruje prawy dolny
kmr [1d\]: g2 interesujace
]
;B[gn]C[slender [2d\]: !
maciek [2d\]: o albo tak, pieknie
Poziom [1d\]: zagrał mój typ:D
gisel [4d\]: yeah, real man dont answer forcing moves :)
EdhelDil [3k\]: troubles
maciek [2d\]: mogles tego nie mowic...
kmr [1d\]: a co na e3?
maciek [2d\]: zagral na poziomie 1?
gisel [4d\]: e3 e2
maciek [2d\]: :P no, ale moze to ty zagrales na poziomie 9!!
maciek [2d\]: bialy ma chyba za slba te grupe zeby walczyc o f3
Evaugh [3k?\]: nice protection of E3
maciek [2d\]: wyglada ze e4 to byl blad
EdhelDil [3k\]: center is growing, e6 still not alive .... i can't see how white will pull this off 
maciek [2d\]: EdheDil, I like you!
gfdhff [2k\]: surma wygra huiem jak wczoraj śląsk z brugią
atman [2d?\]: hard to believe this lump of stones was created by a pro...
gisel [4d\]: i'd say side is growing, center wont be big
maciek [2d\]: u speak like a very strong player, at least 9d
maciek [2d\]: slask tylko zremisowal
EdhelDil [3k\]: lol
Maek [3d\]: e3 e2 f2 wyglada dobrze dla bi
gfdhff [2k\]: wygral dwumecz
MicMac [2d\]: e3 e2 f1 and white can get out at g5 and g9
]
;W[eq]C[gisel [4d\]: mic, then connect, and w cant capture f2, he's too weak for that
]
;B[er]C[maciek [2d\]: White wont get out
maciek [2d\]: if it will be possible black will sacriface f6 stones and seal him
JEGO [7k\]: f4 to get out now
]
;W[dr]
;B[cr]
;W[fr]
;B[ds]C[MicMac [2d\]: f2 d2 g3 f4 f5 g4 g5 h4 h7 g7 g8 h7 g9
MicMac [2d\]: and whizte has enough stuff to live easy
gisel [4d\]: hmm, why did w cut at d2 first?
tuquedenne [4d\]: I don't get it either gisel :)
MicMac [2d\]: because he don't want corner
Maek [3d\]: u cant understand pro
Poziom [1d\]: nie no mistrzem jestem jak dotąd pomojemu od e4 :D
tuquedenne [4d\]: but black would never let white this corner, would he ?
kmr [1d\]: po mojemu piszę się oddzielnie mistrzu
maciek [2d\]: no to mistrzu powiedz dla kogo to jest tutaj korzystniejsze jeszcze
Poziom [1d\]: mistrzu spacje mam czerstwą;)
gfdhff [2k\]: mistrzu pisze się miszczu
Poziom [1d\]: nie mam pojęcia;) dla kogo i co;)
MicMac [2d\]: not sure but he will have very nice potential at bottom
kmr [1d\]: za dużo w jakieś strzelanki grałeś?WASD też zużyte?! :P
atman [2d?\]: do we have tv for this game? maybe is is banging his head on the table right now :-)
MicMac [2d\]: and sente
gisel [4d\]: im with tuque, and i still dont get it why w started with d2, b got nice shape in the corner
Thumb [3d\]: G4 ?
EdhelDil [3k\]: g4 ?
Thumb [3d\]: ouch
tuquedenne [4d\]: should be a 4d thing gisel ^^
EdhelDil [3k\]: lol 
gisel [4d\]: g5 now?
blurb1: this is far more exciting than expected
]
;W[gp]C[Thumb [3d\]: Sorry Ed^^
EdhelDil [3k\]: ^^
EdhelDil [3k\]: i'm laughing, thank you :)
maciek [2d\]: no w lewym dolnym sie wiecej zrobilo niz liczylem
Maek [3d\]: g6 looks like a mistake now
gisel [4d\]: g3 h3 g2 g5 p3 ?
maciek [2d\]: ciekawe czy wezmie tego kamyka czy zagra cos od prawej
maciek [2d\]: czarny jakies j4 zagra
Weishenme [4d\]: now k11 key point for w and k12 for b
Poziom [1d\]: też obstawiam j4 ale kto to wie; \]
maciek [2d\]: albo j3
EdhelDil [3k\]: gisel: g3 h3 g2 h2 ?
slender [2d\]: g3
Vex [2k?\]: feels like fan hui got this game in the bag already
gisel [4d\]: then h4 cut is good
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;B[gq]C[Anquetil [1k\]: w nicely enters b sphere of influence...
gfdhff [2k\]: what is in the bag ?
gfdhff [2k\]: a cat or tiger ?
maciek [2d\]: Vex is in the bag before he sit at the table
maciek [2d\]: jednak g3
atman [2d?\]: g3 doesn't look right, seems it only helps white to develop
kmr [1d\]: bialy caly czas nie ma ani jednego oczka
gisel [4d\]: hmm, or maybe h3 g2 g5 h6 j4 l4 to keep pressure?
maciek [2d\]: g3 taking a base
Namaskar [1k\]: at atman.... it does grab cash though
Thus [3d\]: so what's the plan against h18?
rareobject: who wins this one GET to the finals or is best of 3?
MicMac [2d\]: h18 g18 h17 j19
gisel [4d\]: at Namaskar, it grabs 2-3 points, its more like it doesnt let white live easily
atman [2d?\]: but not that much, and corner is safe already
grandaure [5k\]: final
embe [7k?\]: gets to final
rareobject: omg, so is very important :D
xio [5k\]: j19? o_0
Namaskar [1k\]: yes... that's part of it... free points
MicMac [2d\]: yes^^
Namaskar [1k\]: while keeping preassure on
EdhelDil [3k\]: h4 threaten g2 
maciek [2d\]: white f4 now
gobuk: if w live at  the bottom w will win...
]
;W[hq]
;B[gr]C[kmr [1d\]: f4 h4 i wampir by zbieral teren po 4 linii
atman [2d?\]: pushing from behind does not really put pressure on a group...;-)
gisel [4d\]: gobuk, thats absurd
gobuk: why
Mitani92 [3d\]: g5?
gisel [4d\]: there are still ways to go for both
EdhelDil [3k\]: h5 ?
gisel [4d\]: black doesnt need to kill, just make 20 points chasing white
JEGO [7k\]: f4 w
Poziom [1d\]: just 20 :D
xio [5k\]: h2 first?
gisel [4d\]: h2 h4
kmr [1d\]: H2 - H4
gisel [4d\]: g5 is best for w imo
JEGO [7k\]: yes h2 first 
Thumb [3d\]: Certainly doesn't look an easy game for W. G5, yes
maciek [2d\]: ale jak tu wszedlem to pomysalem o maskara ale bialy ma przewage, posiedzialem chwile i widze ze w sumie gdybym gral z przeciwnikiem mojej sily to spokojnie moglbym wziac czarne, chyba nawet fajniesze sa czarne bo maja ciekawsza gre
tuquedenne [4d\]: c'est plutôt une maladie de gorge...
rareobject:                                                                                                                                                                                    g5
Maek [3d\]: g5 winning move
maciek [2d\]: ze co ze g5 teraz?!
gisel [4d\]: did fan already play it?
maciek [2d\]: nie ma mowy coto jest to g5
rareobject: i was on bath
rareobject: ^^
Anquetil [1k\]: the problem is that w is being chased in b potential territory
kmr [1d\]: g5 zapobiega cieciu w f4 wiec chyba ok
ChrisVis [1k\]: Wherever white plays, black will cut at H4, and if white h4 or h5 or j4, black f4.
gisel [4d\]: maciek, po g5 czarny nie tnie w h4 bo h6
maciek [2d\]: a w sumie...ale mysle ze zagra f4
rareobject: what language is that?
rareobject: new zeland?
xio [5k\]: close
kmr [1d\]: yeah we are from NZ
maciek [2d\]: watpie zebny czarny chcial ciac bo zalezy mu na srodku
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;W[go]C[slender [2d\]: utnie
rareobject: mexico i guess
Mitani92 [3d\]: :D
rareobject: :D G5 !
gisel [4d\]: yeah, we new zealandians talk here a bit :)
kmr [1d\]: gdyby czarny przcial przez f4 to bylby koniec bialego D6 by zmarlo przeciez
gisel [4d\]: we all root for our polish brother, Surma'
maciek [2d\]: bialy polaczy to czarny zagra jakies polaczenie budowanie sciany do centrum+ rozwiniecia shimari po prawej +atak bialych+ super ruch+ jestem fajny (w jednym)
rareobject: stop this language or ban
rareobject: :-)
xio [5k\]: Tewhakarewarewatangaoteopetauaawahiao new zelanad ftw
gfdhff [2k\]: banana
tuquedenne [4d\]: I still don't get D2
kmr [1d\]: teraz czarny J5
rareobject: gfdhff, nice random lol
Maek [3d\]: j4
maciek [2d\]: this is Mateusz Surma's language
gfdhff [2k\]: we speak french. mateusz jest nalepszy
EdhelDil [3k\]: j6 
maciek [2d\]: j4?
rareobject: b is gonna winnn
xio [5k\]: magical g5 got played
playful [?\]: who is B?
rareobject: me
rareobject: im playing
maciek [2d\]: g5 very magical
]
;B[hn]C[dsfafewf: b still so dead
rareobject: b?
dsfafewf: /w
playful [?\]: dead where?
rareobject: now that's better
frmc [?\]: Who is B? 
rareobject: your mom
gfdhff [2k\]: +1
Serehn [?\]: B is Mateusz Surma
kmr [1d\]: black is 6D from Poland!
grandaure [5k\]: surma mateusz
playful [?\]: thanks :)
frmc [?\]: thx
maciek [2d\]: B is a future champion!
gisel [4d\]: going as i planned :)
Poziom [1d\]: g5 fajne
Poziom [1d\]: ale nie wpadłbym na to chyba:(
gisel [4d\]: j4 l4 now?
rareobject: it's time for fish
atman [2d?\]: g5 makes Sai cry of joy
playful [?\]: I love dragon go server
rareobject: i love yahoo go server
rareobject: bealtiful interface
maciek [2d\]: nie wiem czy to g5 takie dobre
maciek [2d\]: bialy sie pozbyl potencjalnego atari w h2
kmr [1d\]: g5 lepsze niz f4 innych opcji nie bylo chyba
gisel [4d\]: i love real life goban - beautiful interface and very interacttivwe
maciek [2d\]: gisel:)
Namaskar [1k\]: apologies for digressing... but if you want to learn a Maori (New Zealand) word check this out   http://www.newzealand.com/au/feature/the-longest-place-name-in-new-zealand/
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;W[ip]C[backpack1 [2d\]: l4 !
playful [?\]: K#3!
Maek [3d\]: k3
rareobject: k3
rareobject: k3
Maximo234 [5k\]: g9 looks dangerous
rareobject: good cinder..
Poziom [1d\]: po mału się grupy czarnego łączą nieśmiało
EGC2013a [?\]: time left B 1:17 W0:53
maciek [2d\]: k3 now its better because white played g5
]
;B[kp]C[blurb1: g9 looks like a present
dsfafewf: !
rareobject: l4 is very bad
rareobject: now w wins
gisel [4d\]: told ya :)
JEGO [7k\]: back pack was right
ZyBeX86 [4k\]: k5
]
;W[jo]C[kmr [1d\]: white still on run whithout eyes
rareobject: backpack, do ya play tibia?
Weishenme [4d\]: this b is really very strong
kmr [1d\]: omg asking sb " do you play tibia " is really serious offence, very rude
JEGO [7k\]: yes black force white now
radagast1 [9k\]: l5
xio [5k\]: he is chasing a pro like a rabbit
floating [2k\]: is he going to be the first european super pro
gisel [4d\]: once surma gets a target, he can make a lot out of it
dsfafewf: he join, as second european go player, korean pro elimination
]
;B[ho]C[maciek [2d\]: if black defend a right corner he looks rich
]
;W[hp]C[mike25 [3k\]: all because fan don't make the shape with f6 to avoid a sentemove of black, isn't it ?
blurb1: anything official announced yet about european pro?
rareobject: not really
EdhelDil [3k\]: mike: yes
floating [2k\]: he is going to take part in korean pro exam to try become pro ?
floating [2k\]: or what is that korean pro elimination
backpack1 [2d\]: hmm surma might be one of the european pros ^^ if hes willing to go to china for half a year ^^
gisel [4d\]: now im clueless as what to play, probably k7 l5 m4 
EdhelDil [3k\]: willing or able (some have to work, you know ^^)
maciek [2d\]: l7?
cannelle [-\]: p3
ZyBeX86 [4k\]: i think sthn to push W into middle
maciek [2d\]: m6?
maciek [2d\]: l5?
tuquedenne [4d\]: L5 then P3
maciek [2d\]: k3?
dsfafewf: k3
ZyBeX86 [4k\]: m6 no
gisel [4d\]: backpack, why china? hes already a student in korea
]
;B[km]C[ZyBeX86 [4k\]: l7 hmmm - not to make it too easy for white
backpack1 [2d\]: cuz china is going to sponsor the european pro system :)
Evaugh [3k?\]: I like l7..ah
maciek [2d\]: my move^^
maciek [2d\]: not good...
EdhelDil [3k\]: ^^
kmr [1d\]: Maciek dostajesz za ten ruch 1/4 punktu :D
rareobject: this game is getting boring with this comments
rareobject: ....
Weishenme [4d\]: b has unished w not doing the shape at f6 as if w was a kyu player
Weishenme [4d\]: punished
gisel [4d\]: rareobject, there are 2 more going on, you can switch
maciek [2d\]: yes
rareobject: ok gisel, let me try other one
Evaugh [3k?\]: maybe there they appreciate your mom jokes :)
backpack1 [2d\]: just ignore him...
ZyBeX86 [4k\]: w will q2 i think
floating [2k\]: how long has surma been in korea
NYboy [2k\]: this game is simply amazing
ZyBeX86 [4k\]: k7 :/
NYboy [2k\]: beautiful!
]
;W[jm]C[ZyBeX86 [4k\]: why not now?
floating [2k\]: seems like he has been in korea 2010, as 14yo ? where can I find more info
gisel [4d\]: floating, I think 3 years with breaks
Poziom [1d\]: l6
floating [2k\]: hmm ok
ZyBeX86 [4k\]: 3 years with breaks for egzams
pancake [-\]: he was, he was in the same school I was back then :3
ZyBeX86 [4k\]: the breaks were 2 week breaks :D
ZyBeX86 [4k\]: there was an article about him somewhere
playful [?\]: B plays on kgs?
ZyBeX86 [4k\]: in Gość Niedzielny i think :D
ZyBeX86 [4k\]: B is dracula
playful [?\]: thanks
Ciovo [?\]: what school?
]
;B[jl]C[EdhelDil [3k\]: j7 
playful [?\]: b is not dracula
pancake [-\]: king's baduk, it was called Ciovo
MicMac [2d\]: EGC2013, How much time they have now?
playful [?\]: anyone know if B plays on KGS?
pancake [-\]: but it doesn't exist anymore
Ciovo [?\]: i was there too ^_^
maciek [2d\]: B doesnt play internet go
pancake [-\]: sweet
playful [?\]: how old id he?
grandaure [5k\]: http://intergofed.org/13-igf-news-feed/190-korea-prime-minister-cup-interview-with-mateusz-surma-poland.html
gisel [4d\]: not dracula, but drakula
samowar [1d\]: it's drakula
pancake [-\]: I was there just before it stopped existing :p
gisel [4d\]: and he's got KGS account but doesnt play here
kolorek [4k?\]: why do they play second time?
Ciovo [?\]: i was there at the beginning
maciek [2d\]: Drakula looks like a samurai
Tristero [2d\]: g9 now?
EGC2013a [?\]: We are in different room, and the time was posted a few min ago
NYboy [2k\]: black fierece attack!
NYboy [2k\]: white is on the run!
rareobject: so, first place takes 5000 bucks right?
MicMac [2d\]: ha soory i miss it
jakotaki [1d\]: 5000stones
rareobject: no money
rareobject: ?
jakotaki [1d\]: stones
jakotaki [1d\]: Poland....
grandaure [5k\]: no, a free beer
]
;W[kn]C[rareobject: oh my god, poland lot of rich peoples and no one to share prizes
maciek [2d\]: j7!
rareobject: good world
NYboy [2k\]: who is leading? i cannot tell
NYboy [2k\]: i think black?
maciek [2d\]: white is richer but black is making points by attacking white group now
rareobject: b yes
rareobject: leading by 36 pts
kolorek [4k?\]: why do they play second time?
Maek [3d\]: b+101.5
crowis [-\]: I mentioned about Mateusz when I had an interview with EurogoTV http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=News&archief=1367515975 
grandaure [5k\]: 1/2 final
playful [?\]: w lots more territory, but b has a good attack going
gisel [4d\]: because surma didnt beat Fan yet
rareobject: my guess is b +28,5 at end
rareobject: easy game for b and pretty over
EdhelDil [3k\]: kolorek: last 3 rounds are amongst top 8 european players (this is half finals). they played in main tournament, and now in half
Zaagmans [3d\]: ???
Zaagmans [3d\]: easy game for B?
crowis [-\]: I heard that he has a very good atitude when he studies Baduk in Korea.
playful [?\]: B seems good, but doubtful will beat FAn
Zaagmans [3d\]: I dont know... against Fan no game is easy
xio [5k\]: "Ah, I can tell one name, Mateusz from Poland. He is a 6 dan teenager but not well known in Europe because he is in Korea now. He is studying Baduk in Chung-am Baduk Dojang(Dojo) in Korea, which is one of the biggest Baduk Dojangs in Korea, also my former Baduk Dojang. I went to the Dojang this February, and I heard from many pro players that Mateusz has improved a lot and would become a pro in Korea if he keeps going on like this. They said he has very nice attitude on Baduk, and I also checked that with my eyes."
EdhelDil [3k\]: hello crowis!
hobbit [5k\]: crowis, what do you think about this game?
crowis [-\]: Definitely, at this point, game is good for Black. 
rareobject: so, mateuz is the new lee sedol?
rareobject: good
hobbit [5k\]: cool!
crowis [-\]: however, as Fan is a very good player, still don't know who gonna win the game :p
EdhelDil [3k\]: at this point, meaning a reverse is possible?
xio [5k\]: first he needs to win that one
xio [5k\]: fan will use the smallest mistake to seal a win
crowis [-\]: It depends on how Black attacks well the White's group. 
gisel [4d\]: b doesnt lead in points yeat
xio [5k\]: he is a formidable opponent
rareobject: b should just take N3
mito [1d?\]: crowis, thank you for the commentary :-)
rareobject: yw mito
gisel [4d\]: so if b wont be careful and w destroys lower right..
EdhelDil [3k\]: j7 seems needed
jakotaki [1d\]: p3 
crowis [-\]: To kill would be very hard, however, if Black makes more than 35 points on the lower right corner and middle, it's good game for Black.
ZyBeX86 [4k\]: playful - sorry wrong nick
MicMac [2d\]: black still need 20 points at bottom
ZyBeX86 [4k\]: B is "drakula" :D
rareobject: b don't need to kill, let w run like a chicken then win
rareobject: drakula? :)
gfdhff [2k\]: yed
gfdhff [2k\]: yes
MicMac [2d\]: forget komi, he nedds mor like 25-30 points a t bottom
dsfafewf: b is realy good at attacking (and killing)
Muttley [2k\]: does he have a kgs handle?
maciek [2d\]: j7 not a must now?
crowis [-\]: Later, M13 is a good move, it's looking for N17 to save the one stone O17 or K12 to block the middle. 
playful [?\]: this is complicated
playful [?\]: hard to choose the best continuation
crowis [-\]: If Black blocks middle, Black can easily expect 25-30 points.
CBlue [?\]: Muttley, Drakula
Muttley [2k\]: ahh thanks, CBlue :)
CBlue [?\]: ^^
maciek [2d\]: wow, m13 is wonderful
crowis [-\]: And lower right coner also the shape which can easily make more than 15 points.
UFO [-\]: hoi arnold
NH3CH2COOH [4k\]: dag UFO
Muttley [2k\]: I guess b wants to care for L4 somehow, but it looks like it would always be gote
xio [5k\]: k4 looks quite sente
EdhelDil [3k\]: if m13, can w answer k11 and let  b connect to l18 ?
NH3CH2COOH [4k\]: white still not live
ZyBeX86 [4k\]: B is "drakula" on kgs
playful [?\]: b needs to worry about his UR group
ZyBeX86 [4k\]: BUFFERING life stream :D
MooDoGo [3k\]: could black have blocked w 100 L6 with m6 after b 99 L8?
playful [?\]: needs to make his attack serve that purpose too
crowis [-\]: @EdhelDil : If Black can cut white's two stones on the top, it means Black takes more than 20 points profit.
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;B[kl]C[xio [5k\]: b is brutal
EdhelDil [3k\]: ah, too big, even with reduction of the center. thx
rareobject: w is getting owned
Bauer [1d\]: bravo
Icare [1k\]: m3
Muttley [2k\]: crowis, do you think b is ahead here?
Zaagmans [3d\]: btw, crowis is pro?
crowis [-\]: Very solid move Black played. It seems Black has a positive mind.
crowis [-\]: Yes, at this point, game is good for Black.
rareobject: typical professional mind
Muttley [2k\]: thanks
floating [2k\]: catalin taranu did manage to get the LG cup couple times (just checking some records), but I guess that's the farthest an european has got in the big boys games. The next record-breaking target for an european is not just become pro, but to be able to get those big competitions I guess. Not that just becoming pro wouldn't be remarkable
nanotech [2k\]: b is far behind.....
crowis [-\]: White has about 45 points, Black has 25 guaranteed point excluding Middle and lower right corner.
Zaagmans [3d\]: ah, inseong! hello!
davy014 [-\]: hi is it fan hui's game? wich color? and opponment?
rareobject: hi
Muttley [2k\]: fan is w
crowis [-\]: If Fan wins last two games, we'll probably take over European rank 1 place from me :-
crowis [-\]: :p
Weishenme [4d\]: b will do without efforts a lot of points with his pressure on w group
Muttley [2k\]: he is playing Surma Mateusz, 6d
rareobject: crowis is 8p chinese for who don't know
crowis [-\]: Which I don't care, because if he swips all games in EGC, he deserve it :)
Weishenme [4d\]: sorry fan, but now i prefer b
playful [?\]: crowis, have you played Fan?
crowis [-\]: I played with Fan 2 times :)
playful [?\]: results?
crowis [-\]: the score was 1:1 :p
playful [?\]: cool :)
xio [5k\]: wow, against a pro
maciek [2d\]: so u are a Mateusz's kibitz today crowis? :)
Muttley [2k\]: so you're ahead, 1-1 :)
playful [?\]: I would live to see the games
playful [?\]: love*
rareobject: playful are you kyu?
playful [?\]: are the records available online?
Muttley [2k\]: yes, they are all in the relay accounts
playful [?\]: 1-2d
rareobject: strange way...
Muttley [2k\]: playful, right click on EGC2013a etc name and check their game record
crowis [-\]: http://www.europeangodatabase.eu/EGD/Player_Card.php?&key=14201286 
maciek [2d\]: why are u not playing at this tournament crowis?
playful [?\]: thanks :)
crowis [-\]: Here you can see my player card of EGD
tuquedenne [4d\]: cause he loves Grenoble too much to leave it
CBlue [?\]: w m6 normal way?
crowis [-\]: I'm not European :p so much less meaning to play European championship.
MicMac [2d\]: hum i get why white play d2: if black take outiside and white the corner black still get a ko ko in the corner due to the b8 stone
tuquedenne [4d\]: same reason as me but nobody cares for me
crowis [-\]: I did once at 2009, I got 2nd place :(
xio [5k\]: looks go is strong in Switzerland :)
rareobject: still asian
Muttley [2k\]: You are in Zurich atm?  Nice :)
rareobject: :)
mito [1d?\]: crowis, what would be your plan to overcome black's lead if you were white?
crowis [-\]: Well, for the moment, I'm in Korea but I'll soon move to France, Grenoble.
Muttley [2k\]: ah right, have fun in France :)
EdhelDil [3k\]: yes :) we are so lucky (in grenoble)
xio [5k\]: they should do European Open, so all the strong players who are in Europe could play
rareobject: ur very rich bro
rareobject: hehe
crowis [-\]: Very difficult to play as White here..
rareobject: moving to france, grenoble, must have lots of money
gisel [4d\]: there is open tournament on EGC
EdhelDil [3k\]: m5 m4 p4 ?
crowis [-\]: White should take care about life & death and at the same time also cares that should not give more than 35 points on the lower right corner and middle.
bufrisa [3k\]: In-Seong, how is your go school running?
Bauer [1d\]: w has to run out, no alternative
gisel [4d\]: but now they just moved on to transmitting European championship
crowis [-\]: it is running well :) over 60 participants ^^; Thanks for asking.
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;W[lq]
;B[kq]C[watayasu [3k\]: ago
crowis [-\]: This White move is do or die move.
bufrisa [3k\]: and it's online, right?
]
;W[lp]C[playful [?\]: b played very fast here
gisel [4d\]: I hope to get a job soon and also roll in if there will be open spots :)
Zaagmans [3d\]: L3 played so quickly....
playful [?\]: is there a live feed for this?
crowis [-\]: White decide that it's difficult to win the game with normal moves.
Zaagmans [3d\]: m4 was also an option?
gasana [-\]: www.yunguseng.com
Serehn [?\]: http://egc2013.go.art.pl/page/live
crowis [-\]: however,,it looks hard;;
Bauer [1d\]: b played too fast!!!!
]
;B[kr]C[bufrisa [3k\]: thx, gasana
Zaagmans [3d\]: maybe yes
gasana [-\]: :)
xio [5k\]: b plays fast all the time, he took time before c9 
Bauer [1d\]: b ruined a won game
Zaagmans [3d\]: this seems like a sucess for W, B forced so low...
CBlue [?\]: but what was b options?
gisel [4d\]: it wasnt won yet
Zaagmans [3d\]: m4 instead of l3?
pe445k: black gained nothing 
crowis [-\]: Mateusz is studying Baduk in Korea and his Dojo is same as my former one.
kmr [1d\]: black is forced low, but white still dont have even one eye
crowis [-\]: It means that he is my junior haha^^;
xio [5k\]: wow, Korea use word dojo like in Japan?
CBlue [?\]: :D
backpack1 [2d\]: dojang
crowis [-\]: By the way, Black L2 is a bit slack.
fatih [1d?\]: and mateusz is also very kind 
lockhart [5d?\]: crowis who are you and how do you know choongam
crowis [-\]: Black could have tried M5, L5, M2.
UFO [-\]: how long your living in zurig?
Zaagmans [3d\]: I remember staying at a sleeping place at go congress in Prague, years ago. Mateusz was so tiny and cute back then';-)
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;W[ln]C[CBlue [?\]: lockhart, check out his info on kgs
Zaagmans [3d\]: and did very well already
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;B[mo]C[xio [5k\]: or on sensei library
dssfdg: lol wats up lockhart
crowis [-\]: As White erased the potential of lowerside, it's welldone for White.
EdhelDil [3k\]: hmmm  this kikashi seems bad
mike25 [3k\]: w has one eye in ko if b5, hasn't he ?
kmr [1d\]: if ko will arise black have some good ko threats
LKay [2k\]: so B goes for all or nothing, huh?
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;W[lo]C[pancake [-\]: Matti's style was always all or nothing
crowis [-\]: It was very good for Black but now Whte is chasing. 
pancake [-\]: when I played him in Korea he always made huge overplays and try to kill all :p
MicMac [2d\]: yes, a gote ko eye, it's far than enough
xio [5k\]: alas it often ends with the latter
crowis [-\]: O3 will be next move.
pancake [-\]: now he doesn't overplay as much anymore, but he still tries to kill every game, haha
tuquedenne [4d\]: O3 then J2 ?
maciek [2d\]: o3 or p3?:)
kmr [1d\]: gote ko eye is far than enough?! cant agree
Zaagmans [3d\]: pancake is Tel then?
pe445k: but white will survive, sorry fot mateusz
tuquedenne [4d\]: Matti, Michiel ? Matti Siivola ? :)
maciek [2d\]: i would play p3
pancake [-\]: no, we used to call him matti there, because it's easier :P
pancake [-\]: I dunno why, they called him that when I came there, after a week I found out it wasn't his full name
slender [2d\]: o7
CBlue [?\]: p3 maybe?
xio [5k\]: we would call him Mati in Poland as well to be honest
CBlue [?\]: or too passive?
Bauer [1d\]: p3 secures 25 points, that means, the game is still close
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;B[nq]C[UFO [-\]: michiel is going to be euro champ in the future
UFO [-\]: so watch out for him crowis
pancake [-\]: Crowis was my teacher UFO :P
kmr [1d\]: O3! knight moves FTW!
crowis [-\]: What Black needs is a guaranteed point. To kill the group must be very difficult..
dssfdg: is crowis best player in europe?
UFO [-\]: nice  :)
maciek [2d\]: o3 crowis's move!
Zaagmans [3d\]: gee...
crowis [-\]: Haha^^; Hi Michiel :)
maciek [2d\]: Mateusz is going to win!!!!
CBlue [?\]: o7?
EdhelDil [3k\]: m2 j2 and escape toward o8 area (keeping r3 if possible) ?
Murugandi [-\]: SURMAAAAA
tuquedenne [4d\]: maybe he wants to play N9 sente
pancake [-\]: ^^
tuquedenne [4d\]: then In Seong's move M13
Zaagmans [3d\]: Muragandi?? How are you oude rukker?
maciek [2d\]: Mateusz!!! Mateusz!!!
Murugandi [-\]: haha
xio [5k\]: a gdy poszedł król na wojnę grały jemu surmy zbrojne
Murugandi [-\]: oude rukker is good, thanks
UFO [-\]: hoi kim
Murugandi [-\]: hio
floating [2k\]: simara is the best player in europe for one more day
Zaagmans [3d\]: ;)
backpack1 [2d\]: isnt p3 better than o3 `?
pancake [-\]: Kim comes in and the conversation stops making sense
pancake [-\]: how does he do that every time?
Weakling [1d?\]: o4 
kmr [1d\]: Simara couldnt attend?
Zaagmans [3d\]: typical Kim...
UFO [-\]: lol
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;W[np]C[Namaskar [1k\]: anyone knows why Simara is not there to defend his tilte/
maciek [2d\]: p3 now
Zaagmans [3d\]: ps pancake; are there still wednesday evening sessions in Utrecht?
crowis [-\]: Black can expect a bit less than 20 points on the lower right corner, and middle..hmm difficult to expect but 10 points must be easy to make.
pancake [-\]: Namaskar, according to himself: too lazy :p
TurtleDove [4k?\]: he was here yesterday, said "too lazy"
kmr [1d\]: i dont know why he is not there, quite close from Czech there
Namaskar [1k\]: right...
pancake [-\]: there are in theory Zaagmans :p
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;B[oq]C[maciek [2d\]: the right corner is early 20 points!
ankou [3k\]: Go Mateusz!
KiraLNear [3d\]: there was a tournament in japan at the same time and I guess simara was playing there?
Zaagmans [3d\]: because I have to train to win the Indis in oktober...
crowis [-\]: Black will take sente after attack and probably play the biggest move C18.
pancake [-\]: but there's no one atm, I'll try to make people come again afther holidays
maciek [2d\]: c18 is bigger than m13?
globax [3d\]: p-o7-o9-q7-c18
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;W[im]C[pancake [-\]: haha, just text me and I'll be there ;)
copyright [2d\]: h7 
Zaagmans [3d\]: :)
megaschaf [1k\]: isnt artem in the semis ?
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;B[gk]C[maciek [2d\]: wow
dsfafewf: pro
UFO [-\]: w hasnt an eye
maciek [2d\]: what a nice defend
xio [5k\]: nice connection
apina [1d\]: no, he lost against debarre
MicMac [2d\]: g9 is nice
EdhelDil [3k\]: m2 still looks big to me... :/
UFO [-\]: almost 1 eye
tuquedenne [4d\]: white's privilege, EdhelDil
maciek [2d\]: black attacked this gropu like a cho chikun!
maciek [2d\]: this still has no eyes and black is so strong everywhere around
Weakling [1d?\]: and ilya lost to lisy. didnt expect that.
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;W[ml]C[xio [5k\]: not always stronger player wins
maciek [2d\]: p12 black stones not in danger now?
gisel [4d\]: one person ilie could lose to in his own game i guess
P0tat0 [?\]: pavol is getting stronger
maciek [2d\]: m13 now maybe ??
dssfdg: upsets very common in go
CBlue [?\]: m13 now?
apina [1d\]: it seems that ilya's fighting power isn't too much for others anymore
USSRMan [3d\]: black ahead?
Maek [3d\]: n7?
crowis [-\]: It seems the new generation takes over the lead of European Top place.
MicMac [2d\]: to connect m12 is better and threath n17 too
dsfafewf: o5
apina [1d\]: he has had problems in earlier years also, but fighted his way to win usually
maciek [2d\]: m13 is 7d move^^
maciek [2d\]: 8d?:
maciek [2d\]: 14d?:)
yabyum [3k\]: endgame now?
maciek [2d\]: how much dan u have crowis?:
crowis [-\]: P8 must be the strongest move. 
MicMac [2d\]: yep depend on the purpose of m13
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;B[mc]C[MicMac [2d\]: if you want to close middle m13 is good
crowis [-\]: or just N9 to make a scoaring game.
maciek [2d\]: go on Mateusz play p8!!!
dsfafewf: !!!!!!!!!!!!
MicMac [2d\]: if you want to connet m12 is better
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;W[lc]C[xio [5k\]: maciek, sensei lib says 7d EGF
JEGO [7k\]: n16 and black wants tu pressure white again :)
Namastee [4d\]: I bet on w
CBlue [?\]: is b p6 aji keshi?
USSRMan [3d\]: game is close but i think b is slightly ahead like by 3.5-5.5
dssfdg: wow they get 150 min of main time thats a lot of time
kmr [1d\]: 5.5 isnt close on that level
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;B[mn]C[crowis [-\]: N17 is not working, Black is playing there in order to make sente moves in the middle or squeezing
maciek [2d\]: ouch this one black looks dirty
HisokaH [-\]: just enough dssfdg
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;W[lm]C[MicMac [2d\]: m12 also pressur more bottom white group
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;B[ol]C[dssfdg: lol but world championships only have like 2hrs
crowis [-\]: Oh..wow, he takes out his sword :)
Rukasu [3k\]: nice!
maciek [2d\]: yeah Mateusz!!!
crowis [-\]: P8 is on the board
maciek [2d\]: kill it all!!!!
hobbit [5k\]: there will be blood
CBlue [?\]: lord of the board
UFO [-\]: :)
xio [5k\]: lord of the dance
dssfdg: kill this aint easy at all
kmr [1d\]: so its do-or-die attempt?
pancake [-\]: wow, it'd be a great surprise if Fan would lose here
JEGO [7k\]: black maintain white under big pressure ^^
crowis [-\]: As an observer, it's a very interesting game, however, it's very difficult game for both of players!
maciek [2d\]: poor white, he is escaping and looking for eyes since 50 moves or so
pancake [-\]: shikshin and dinerstein also not in finals, we would have a surprising champion again :)
maciek [2d\]: it must be very annoying for the 7d player
ayslcmn [1k?\]: artem???
UFO [-\]: lisy
cannelle [-\]: what are the clock times
hobbit [5k\]: but can b win if w lives here?
blurb1: sure
maciek [2d\]: of course he can
USSRMan [3d\]: yes
pancake [-\]: Depends on how much points he gets out of it
kolorek [4k?\]: catalin isnt playing at all in this champs?
maciek [2d\]: i think black is better now
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;W[nj]C[maciek [2d\]: already
pancake [-\]: He's behind on points right now
Weakling [1d?\]: CBlue: is that not about snowboards?
tymak [1k\]: I wouldnt say suprising, Surma and Fan Hui are strong same as Ilja and dinerstains best years are gone
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;B[lg]C[egcreview2: 48 min for black and 32 for white
CBlue [?\]: yeah it is >.>
pancake [-\]: Fan wouldn't be a surprise tymak, a non 7d player would be ;)
Weakling [1d?\]: \\m/
dsfafewf: death!
crowis [-\]: Honestly, if I were Black, I would have tried to get the point and going to the end game stage. Because Black was definitely ahead.
JEGO [7k\]: n16 now
crowis [-\]: M13 is a good forcing move.
JEGO [7k\]: yeah
dsfafewf: and then m10
hyperbirdy: k5 dead ?
Songe [1d?\]: M13 has been induced all this time. So nice
xio [5k\]: m13 on the board so shake and roll
crowis [-\]: Black exchanged N17 in order to make this as 100% sente move.
maciek [2d\]: Mateusz played all crowis's ideas
Weishenme [4d\]: b dominates
dssfdg: capture this group is pretty much impossible cuz b is not thick enuff
maciek [2d\]: its very optimistic!:)
Rukasu [3k\]: some of the w stones will just have to die...
fada [2k\]: L10
dsfafewf: korean school
tymak [1k\]: surma isnt 7d just because he simply had no oporunity to get high rating during study in Korea
Bauer [1d\]: b is still behind in points, but somewhere will be the missing 5 points
dssfdg: how old is surma?
CBlue [?\]: let's hope he can stay focussed
josekimq [1d\]: n15
maciek [2d\]: older than dragons
JEGO [7k\]: crowis is true its a forcing move
crowis [-\]: Poland is his home ground :)
TurtleDove [4k?\]: about 17
dssfdg: really 17?
tymak [1k\]: not sure, something abou 18 I guess
maciek [2d\]: Mateusz!!! Mateusz!!!
pancake [-\]: no he's older I think
pancake [-\]: ~19
AlpnCactus [5k\]: Home field advantage seems to work in Go, too
dsfafewf: 17
dssfdg: hes like 22 at least i thought
globax [3d\]: n12 nasty
maciek [2d\]: yes, Mateusz win the congress in Poland is a dream of all polish players!
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;W[mf]C[Shantideva [?\]: :)
FCALL [8k\]: I thought that Fan Hui wasnt playing anymore in such tournament...
zaboomafoo [3k\]: ??
samoht [2k\]: 2010 he played EYGC U16
xio [5k\]: he just started in fact
zaboomafoo [3k\]: he is the star
josekimq [1d\]: my move
crowis [-\]: M10 is a proper move.
Serehn [?\]: Mateusz will be 18 soon
crowis [-\]: Break the dog's face :)
pancake [-\]: oh really? wow 
xio [5k\]: breaking dog's face is korean point of view :)
pancake [-\]: M10 looks like shape :3
Tristero [2d\]: In-seong - what can b do in the b14 area? Is a deep reduciont possible? E.g. start with c14 and then so something with b17?
globax [3d\]: m10 via point
zaboomafoo [3k\]: first time I've seen fan in trouble
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;B[mk]C[globax [3d\]: vital*
pancake [-\]: haha
UFO [-\]: im a korean with a dog
dsfafewf: Polish way to break a dog
pancake [-\]: haha
pancake [-\]: just kick it
xio [5k\]: Polish way to break a hot dog :)
crowis [-\]: @Tristero: I don't think that theres' something Black can do.. it's too solid..
UFO [-\]: his name is hektor
crowis [-\]: Oh Black played harder move :p
Tristero [2d\]: tx
maciek [2d\]: black at work, no mercy
JEGO [7k\]: blacks wants central territory now
maciek [2d\]: this is not vacation Fan Hui!!!
crowis [-\]: I thought Mateusz is a caml player but it looks he is not :-
JEGO [7k\]: for sure
pancake [-\]: haha In-Seong, you got the wrong impression entirely ;)
zaboomafoo [3k\]: w seems dead.
hobbit [5k\]: with some white stones, jego
dsfafewf: he is waiting player
xio [5k\]: not in this game it seems
JEGO [7k\]: Dracula seach blood ^^
Rukasu [3k\]: nah, mateusz is a berserker ;)
pancake [-\]: He's a lean mean killing machine, haha 
natsu27 [11k\]: il leurs rest combien de temps 
kmr [1d\]: Black nickname tell it pretty much all about his go style
Nilatarion [3d\]: korean insei calm, good joke ;p
tymak [1k\]: seems like Korea beat every piece of calmness ou of you :)
zaboomafoo [3k\]: turn calmness to calamity
dssfdg: crowis, are u in korea or europe?
maciek [2d\]: Mateusz is very calm person, but when he is playing he is a shark
USSRMan [3d\]: white must have read this move when he played o10
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;W[nk]
;B[nl]
;W[lk]C[CBlue [?\]: b too thin?
GoRoGoRo [7k\]: EGC2013a
crowis [-\]: There was no Western player who became a pro in Korea with a tournament, I heard from one of the teacher(pro) of his dojo that Mateusz could become the first Western guy :)
Rukasu [3k\]: will he try t go after j8, k9, l7 stones?
gisel [4d\]: maybe w did not expect sucha bold move
crowis [-\]: It's expectable move, what is Black's plan..?
EdhelDil [3k\]: crowis: there was a german player, iirc
telchar [-\]: Un jeu de partage pacifique, qu'ils disaient. Rengagez vous, qu'ils disaient
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;B[li]C[CBlue [?\]: wow..
dsfafewf: nice
maciek [2d\]: wow
UFO [-\]: kill!!
zaboomafoo [3k\]: b wants death
tymak [1k\]: yep, but the german player get pro title in Japan, not in korea
fatih [1d?\]: black plan esay: kill them all 
xio [5k\]: kill kill kill the poor
maciek [2d\]: this is humiliating
NoWin4You: hunt the hunter
USSRMan [3d\]: i dont see how white can live
wade [5d\]: Surma is one of the most talented there is now i believe... he became much stronger after going to korea
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;W[lj]C[crowis [-\]: Hmm.. it's too thin..
maciek [2d\]: in the first game in this tournament Mateusz was very close to kill Fan Hui too
JEGO [7k\]: he can kill the black lower groupe but i hope Fan has 2 eyes ?
maciek [2d\]: but Fan won the game
gisel [3d\]: b wont kill it
maciek [2d\]: i hope this is not the same scenario
kmr [1d\]: EdhelDil who you mean? Crowis was referring to Korea not asia
NoWin4You: i hope fan gets killed :-)
Weakling [1d?\]: jego, b can connect with either of h1 k1 n2 
JEGO [7k\]: just to pressure, mateusz win around 10 points  ^^
EdhelDil [3k\]: kmr: ah ok, sorry
NoWin4You: kyus lack reading comprehension
kmr [1d\]: np :)
wade [5d\]: it looks like w lives
maciek [2d\]: my feelings is Mateusz tried to kill to much
crowis [-\]: White has a one eye possibility on the left side. B5, B4, A6. It's Ko but anyway there's a way.
Rukasu [3k\]: how? b m8 now
fada [2k\]: you see two eyes ?
xio [5k\]: b k10?
mike25 [3k\]: w seems connected to r9
watayasu [3k\]: k12
handofclod [6k?\]: it's ko, fada
backpack1 [2d\]: l11 
zaboomafoo [3k\]: l10
karabos [1d?\]: dans le poulet noir préfère le blanc
NoWin4You: what is the score if w lives?
MicMac [2d\]: white has one real gote eye at bottom or left
LKay [2k\]: it's very close then
MicMac [2d\]: with j2
crowis [-\]: It looks difficult to kill. 
Idn [3d\]: Fan va dinersteiniser Mateusz
zaboomafoo [3k\]: isnit left one a ko?
playful [?\]: B resigned?
slowy [2k\]: ah, hi crowis =)
crowis [-\]: If White lives, the game is good for White because Black lost the potential in the middle.
crowis [-\]: Hi :)
myspeed [1k\]: The big groups never die...
CBlue [?\]: is b too busy at both L11 and P6 now?
oshiohsdg: probably black resigned
Anquetil [1k\]: thats what I said from the start, crowis
NoWin4You: how is your school going crowis?
backpack1 [2d\]: there should be a `silence all guests`function... -.-
Anquetil [1k\]: b led an elephant into his living room
UFO [-\]: mlackaybe surma s b group dies
crowis [-\]: it goes well, thanks for asking :)
UFO [-\]: maybe
chibiVP [5d?\]: there should be a "silence all ppl below rank X" function
apina [1d\]: myspeed, this might only the second biggest dead group for Fan in EGC this year
Benerit [-\]: Mateusz resigned
NoWin4You: glad to hear that crowis :-)
AlpnCactus [5k\]: Shame to see it end so quickly
chibiVP [5d?\]: or not silence, but hide their messages from me.
maciek [2d\]: this game is a dream of a lot of peoples here crowis, i beg you, dont tell "this game is better for white" anymore pls!^^
apina [1d\]: tho, I don't think this will die
kolorekkkk: whaaat
dsfafewf: ups
EGC2013a [?\]: W+R
handofclod [6k?\]: there should be a silence all ppl who complain about other ppl function
crowis [-\]: N9 probably too much. 
dsfafewf: resing was bad move!
slowy [2k\]: lol
Uchiwa [-\]: youuuuhouu
slowy [2k\]: dat escalated quickly
Idn [3d\]: omg
kmr [1d\]: No, just no
backpack1 [2d\]: whaaaat ?
USSRMan [3d\]: what
blurb1: how sad
chibiVP [5d?\]: hand, that's hard to autodetect :P
kolorekkkk: hooooow
Rukasu [3k\]: W H A T ?!
slowy [2k\]: i would at least try
USSRMan [3d\]: troll?
Anquetil [1k\]: Fan is too strong
crowis [-\]: Haha, Mateusz should become better :-p
MicMac [2d\]: now white is alive
dsfafewf: wow
crowis [-\]: to win against Fan :)
USSRMan [3d\]: there is still game left
dsfafewf: Mateusz didn't use goban as a table
Evaugh [3k?\]: can anybody give the sequence for the W group to live?
dsfafewf: to write a result
MicMac [2d\]: he has on eye in n9
JEGO [7k\]: yes qhite j8
Anquetil [1k\]: too much bad aji for b
backpack1 [2d\]: i would ve tried l11 
MicMac [2d\]: black can't m8
JEGO [7k\]: white j8
Reym [-\]: thanks egc and thanks Inseong for the comments!
Goeland [6k\]: White can connect M6 or K13 or kill L7
NoWin4You: thanks crowis
crowis [-\]: It was interesting to watch this game. See you all!
maciek [2d\]: Resigning at this moemnt shows Mateusz is very strong player
USSRMan [3d\]: i think white will win by 6.5
IkkiRyu [8k\]: he's read far ahead
sylvain [2d?\]: Thanks Inseong.
USSRMan [3d\]: he attacked to kill not for territory
MicMac [2d\]: h2 k2 make the second yey
Reym [-\]: Mateusz is scary strong, i hope he becomes pro in korea! will he try?
MicMac [2d\]: or b5 a ko eye
Evaugh [3k?\]: thanks MicMac
NoWin4You: so fan vs cheater in the final tomorrow?
FCALL [8k\]: who is cheater ? why do you call him like that ?
globax [3d\]: thx egc
kmr [1d\]: Cheater is his nickname on KGS
IkkiRyu [8k\]: lisy pavol
MicMac [2d\]: jthx for relaying egc
FCALL [8k\]: ok
JEGO [7k\]: q9 move necessary for black
EdhelDil [3k\]: black resigned?
Anquetil [1k\]: yes
Evaugh [3k?\]: What happens if B M8?
Anquetil [1k\]: does the final start at the same time as this game did?
ZyBeX86 [4k\]: who won?
gisel [3d\]: fan hui won
MicMac [2d\]: m8 n7 and o6 j8 are miai for an eye
MicMac [2d\]: b5 h2 are miai for the second
hikarutoya [7k\]: any chance that somebody do a commentary of the game later?
ZyBeX86 [4k\]: on egc maybe :P
JEGO [7k\]: ok
ZyBeX86 [4k\]: guo - will you makme a comment on this game PLZ? :D
hikarutoya [7k\]: ok i hope so:)
on1 [12k\]: game ended?
MicMac [2d\]: yes
andreiraz [3k\]: how won ?
ayslcmn [1k?\]: who won the game?
pourri [4k\]: Fan
pourri [4k\]: go upper to see ;)
ayslcmn [1k?\]: how???
ayslcmn [1k?\]: is w alive?
dssfdg: wait how?
pourri [4k\]: read the comments, search for EGC2013a
pourri [4k\]: W+R
raptek: hey, is this game over?
kmr [1d\]: yeah, Fan won, bad day for all of us
kmr [1d\]: alhought it was really fighting game
kmr [1d\]: black showed no fear
EdhelDil [3k\]: black deserved the win too. nice game. Maybe tried to hard to kill at the end?
EdhelDil [3k\]: he will be one to watch in the following years
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