(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[9000]OT[3x60 byo-yomi]
GN[57th European Go Congress, Play for 5th place]PW[Shikshin Ilja]PB[Tormanen Antti]WR[7d]BR[6d]DT[2013-08-10]EV[57th European Go Congress]RO[10]PC[Olsztyn, Poland]C[tuquedenne [4d\]: match for 5th place ?
Xirxaven [-\]: Records of Past meetings: Ilja 5, Antti 1.
]
;B[dc]C[kmr [1d\]: yeah battle for 5th place, i wonder how many of this games with Ilya leading 5-1 was after Anti came back from Japan
Xirxaven [-\]: Last game was 2011.  The one Antti won was in 2005 :o
kmr [1d\]: so this is kind a different story now :). 
]
;W[pp]
;B[qd]
;W[cp]
;B[fq]C[mof [4d\]: kgb vs. sissi troops
mof [4d\]: exciting
]
;W[dq]
;B[iq]
;W[ce]C[Muttley [2k\]: not sure the kgb are around anymore ...
Hobbes [2k\]: if.they.were.you.couldn't.know.anyway...
mof [4d\]: :)
]
;B[od]C[Muttley [2k\]: they play chess, anyway, so let's make this a kgb-free zone :)
mof [4d\]: Sissis are tough, imagine being out on that forest road to nowhere
mof [4d\]: and knowing you are going to fight someone named Törmänen
Dupaaxe [?\]: And jedi too :)
Muttley [2k\]: won't e16 be good here for w, or does b plan to push and cut :)
mof [4d\]: I would have another vodka
]
;W[jc]
;B[ed]
;W[ci]
;B[qn]
;W[nq]C[tuquedenne [4d\]: I like black position
]
;B[pj]
;W[mc]
;B[rp]
;W[kq]C[sylvain [2d?\]: Yue LI is 25th.
tuquedenne [4d\]: sorry for li yue :)
kxk: Илья, вперед!
]
;B[qq]C[USSRMan [3d\]: F5
Ootakamoku [2d\]: this fuseki looks like something I think roln would hate soooo much
USSRMan [3d\]: why
Ootakamoku [2d\]: zero fight, standard shapes all over.
Xirxaven [-\]: I was surprised it didn't immediately turn into a big fight also.
Muttley [2k\]: there will be blood, don't worry
Muttley [2k\]: the fight will be around the D8 and H12 areas ;)
Ootakamoku [2d\]: hmm, maybe w could go for the unreasonable g4 here?
]
;W[fo]C[Muttley [2k\]: why go g4 when you can go- f5!
USSRMan [3d\]: g4 seems ok too
USSRMan [3d\]: i play f5 because that is the point black would play
]
;B[io]
;W[im]C[Xirxaven [-\]: ha!
rsnf: J7 first non-standard move in the game
Ootakamoku [2d\]: f5 is kinda like standard shape there
USSRMan [3d\]: not sure about this move
Ootakamoku [2d\]: ok, w really playing thin now, trying to provoke fight
tuquedenne [4d\]: funny one
Ootakamoku [2d\]: pushing black towards white weak group, AND playing super thin
Muttley [2k\]: D8, H12 :))
Ootakamoku [2d\]: this is not tenukiable afaik, I mean, b cannot be killed, bu whoever adds next move decides relative strengths of groups alot
]
;B[dj]C[Ootakamoku [2d\]: and I get proven wrong :(
tuquedenne [4d\]: :)
USSRMan [3d\]: d11
USSRMan [3d\]: or f10 maybe
Ootakamoku [2d\]: w could give b what b asks for, and then tenuki to bottom fight?
Ootakamoku [2d\]: d11 f10 e10 e9 e11 g8 h4 
]
;W[hp]C[Ootakamoku [2d\]: atleast roln agrees with me, that the tenuki wasnt reasonable in the first place, tho Im not sure if I should be happy about that considering how super agressive roln can be.
Gorim [1d\]: Oota if You're not going pro than being similar to Ilija in anything go related should be good enough for You;)
]
;B[hq]
;W[ip]
;B[gp]
;W[jp]
;B[go]
;W[fn]
;B[ho]
;W[er]C[smartrobot [9d\]: w is so aggressive..
gooooo [-\]: smartrobot, was it wrong for black to tenuki and play d10?
]
;B[jo]
;W[ko]C[smartrobot [9d\]: if i was b, i would play d10, too
]
;B[kn]C[klausP [7d?\]: then its a good move for sure
klausP [7d?\]: :)
]
;W[jn]C[smartrobot [9d\]: haha, i'm not sure
klausP [7d?\]: well, if antti and Jack want to play it!
Lesmian [2d\]: we will be proved being aggressive is a virtue
smartrobot [9d\]: this variation is quite risky for w
klausP [7d?\]: I already like blacks position here
holynec [-\]: SMARTROBTO!!1
smartrobot [9d\]: at least i cant handle it as w
bleen [-\]: where is the risk for w?
USSRMan [3d\]: white too thin to attack this way
bleen [-\]: l5 too thin?
smartrobot [9d\]: b h7, w has to atari l7
Xirxaven [-\]: should be help the g5 group here or the l6 stone?  i am v nervous for g5 group
Xirxaven [-\]: b*
smartrobot [9d\]: then it will affect w bottom group
bleen [-\]: ses, it seems so
bleen [-\]: maybe he hopes that b struggles to the d10 stone
hitaus [1k?\]: sorry if this is a trivial question, but why does Antti play for the 5th place if he's 3rd on the results table?
Gardan [?\]: http://egc2013.go.art.pl/EGC-finals.html
Xirxaven [-\]: bc his loss was in the round of 8.  it's a quirk of the tournament rules that someone who goes lww in the knockout will finish at highest 5.
Xirxaven [-\]: while someone who goes wll will finish 4.
Gardan [?\]: there are two diffrent competitions ongoing .. European Championship and Open one
hitaus [1k?\]: thanks!
Ootakamoku [2d\]: b considering somethig like m5 l4 m6 before going to h7?
Ootakamoku [2d\]: looks a bit risky and messy
]
;B[hm]
;W[il]C[Backflash [6k?\]: surprising, b is not Ilya
Ootakamoku [2d\]: j8, cmon, what honte list did that come from?
Backflash [6k?\]: i first looked at board then at player's names
]
;B[hl]
;W[pn]C[Ootakamoku [2d\]: but if you play it out, then you notice it was w who did the first attack
Ootakamoku [2d\]: hence w is roln :)
Backflash [6k?\]: figuers
Ootakamoku [2d\]: my kyu reflexes tell me to play m5, even tho its so very likely to become aji keshi
ChrisHH [3d\]: j9 and W has terrible shape
Backflash [6k?\]: k7 first maybe?
hitaus [1k?\]: how do you maintain kyu instinct and reflexes?
hitaus [1k?\]: Backflash, definitely not
midorisuke [4d\]: think 'what move will i make if i want to lose' 
Backflash [6k?\]: a1
hitaus [1k?\]: Backflash, forcing K7 is the 2nd worst more after a1 : \]
]
;B[ik]C[bleen [-\]: nice tenuki
Ootakamoku [2d\]: j9 is nice indeed
Backflash [6k?\]: yea, i see it know forgot about the cut
Ootakamoku [2d\]: q6 not nearly sente enough
Backflash [6k?\]: now*
hitaus [1k?\]: Backflash, good!
]
;W[qo]
;B[ro]
;W[qm]
;B[rn]C[yrrery: is it match for 5th place ?
Backflash [6k?\]: no idea, look on results page
medical [2k\]: it is
jokkebk [-\]: yrrery: yes
yrrery: tx
]
;W[pk]C[Albertine [2d?\]: Could someone please tell me, who is black and who is white? I am online on Android 
]
;B[jm]
;W[qj]C[Backflash [6k?\]: shikshin vs antti
Backflash [6k?\]: w vs b
Lesmian [2d\]: white is Ilya Shiksin, black is Antti Tormanen
]
;B[cj]
;W[di]C[Albertine [2d?\]: Thank you 
]
;B[ej]
;W[ei]C[Ootakamoku [2d\]: I fail to see the value in k7, well I kinda do, but still think r10 bigger
]
;B[cn]
;W[fj]
;B[bi]
;W[bh]
;B[bj]C[Werfeus [5d\]: q9 was so very uninteresting to answer to
]
;W[fk]C[Ootakamoku [2d\]: well, with this line of play, k7 is indeed shining
]
;B[fi]C[snowman [-\]: funny and dynamic position, indeed
Werfeus [5d\]: i don't see Ilya having any plan but to finish this game quickly
]
;W[dg]C[hitaus [1k?\]: B seems stabile everywhere but little cash
Gardan [?\]: white's cash is not big either
]
;B[fh]
;W[ff]C[hitaus [1k?\]: Gardan, W expansions on top will bring more points than B. So B should get some attack going to expand profitably, I guess.
jokkebk [-\]: D5?
sakugo [?\]: solidity brings cash, weakness will lead to opponent gaining points everywhere
sakugo [?\]: feels to me b has advantage
jokkebk [-\]: hmm actually D5 is silly, but is there cut with E4 or something else
USSRMan [3d\]: black has a huge advantage
eureka [5k\]: is b10 already alive?
USSRMan [3d\]: yes
]
;B[hi]C[eureka [5k\]: thx
Ootakamoku [2d\]: b10 is alive easily because b has moves such as e8 and e7
]
;W[bc]C[klausP [7d?\]: b17 realy big
Ootakamoku [2d\]: b almost forced to h17 now I think
hitaus [1k?\]: W got one expansion for free. H17 doesn't attack yet, so seems W will get another expansion too.
USSRMan [3d\]: yeah
]
;B[hc]
;W[fc]C[Ootakamoku [2d\]: h17 would be sente against the w group in most circumstances
Ootakamoku [2d\]: f17, lol
Werfeus [5d\]: exactly how much have Ilya used of his own time?
hitaus [1k?\]: F17 to help K17 in a natural way : \]
sakugo [?\]: perhaps w is feeling desperate need to turn the game around by creating complicated fight
USSRMan [3d\]: white needs to attack hard to keep balance of territory
]
;B[ef]
;W[eg]
;B[fg]
;W[gf]C[momiji [3d\]: & it's w style to attack hard anyway
hitaus [1k?\]: I'm not sure how E14 helped. Is there some tesujis on left?
Ootakamoku [2d\]: b f13 feels greedy to me
Xirxaven [-\]: f16 g17 g16 h18 h16 j18 d15 or something?
Ootakamoku [2d\]: e14 does give.. b13 a12 c13 c12 d14 c14 e12 d12 a13 
Ootakamoku [2d\]: so the exchange gives some yose if nothing else
hitaus [1k?\]: thanks!
hitaus [1k?\]: I was looking at the wrong place, I thought there's something at B15 or so...
KiraLNear [3d\]: uh. so complicated
]
;B[ge]C[KiraLNear [3d\]: antti tries too hard
dxxd [1d\]: hmm, I thought f15
]
;W[ee]
;B[fd]
;W[cb]
;B[hf]
;W[ob]
;B[qi]
;W[pi]C[hitaus [1k?\]: second expansion for W
]
;B[oj]
;W[qh]C[nnjjhv: w is winning
]
;B[ri]C[BennyLava [1k\]: W strong!
BennyLava [1k\]: maybe Tartrate?
]
;W[rh]C[moro123 [1k\]: what can b do now?
]
;B[md]C[sakugo [?\]: s10 r9 q12 p11 s13 for one, but doesn't work immediately
dxxd [1d\]: this is for ladder breaker
]
;W[ld]C[dxxd [1d\]: but I like w
backpack1 [2d\]: Benny der ist sooo alt.
pancake [-\]: Q12 works now
slkdj [2k?\]: what's going on on the left?
pancake [-\]: nothing atm ;)
slkdj [2k?\]: dont be fooled pancake
slkdj [2k?\]: they might be playing the complete opposite side of the board
slkdj [2k?\]: but the left is where's it at
sakugo [?\]: left is settled for now, action is in right senter
pancake [-\]: he has to q12
pancake [-\]: otherwise white will extend there and b has nothing
blurb1: is m15 sente?
pancake [-\]: I think w will ignore
sakugo [?\]: o17 looks attractive
]
;B[rj]
;W[qk]
;B[ph]
;W[oi]
;B[pg]
;W[nj]C[Muttley [2k\]: ooo, trade?
dxxd [1d\]: yes, since the ladder was made to work
Muttley [2k\]: yeah, not much choice
pancake [-\]: w's resistance with R13 didn't work either
]
;B[rk]
;W[rl]
;B[rg]
;W[ln]
;B[in]
;W[lm]
;B[nc]C[sakugo [?\]: w got 25 pts or so around o6, b about 15 so far around r14
]
;W[mb]
;B[nb]
;W[na]C[EGC2013c [?\]: b 0"58 min W 1:49 min
]
;B[bp]C[moro123 [1k\]: heh w blitzing
USSRMan [3d\]: nice move
blurb1: a move around p2 feels big
USSRMan [3d\]: knight moves are almost always big on 2nd line
sakugo [?\]: p2 may not be sente, but b4 sure seems to be
]
;W[bq]
;B[bo]
;W[cl]C[USSRMan [3d\]: feels like an overplay
blurb1: maybe he can live in sente in some variation
]
;B[cm]
;W[bl]C[moro123 [1k\]: hmm...
Xirxaven [-\]: lol
sakugo [?\]: big question is what would b do with sente
]
;B[dl]C[sakugo [?\]: uh-oh
]
;W[dm]C[Test123 [2d\]: he want sente connection and live
]
;B[el]
;W[em]C[moro123 [1k\]: just f8?
Ootakamoku [2d\]: w getting m7 was soooo huge, Im a bit suprised m5 l4 m6 wasnt sente enough, before w ended up playing m6
moro123 [1k\]: b still has moves like n8 maybe
]
;B[fm]C[sakugo [?\]: b got 15 pts of extra profit on left?
blurb1: needs d5?
sakugo [?\]: only if want to save de7 i think
]
(;W[do]C[blurb1: e4
])
(;W[fl]
;B[gm]
;W[do]
;B[bm]C[moro123 [1k\]: wrong order
sakugo [?\]: ok, now b extra profit 20 pts. does w need to protect corner?
sakugo [?\]: looks like it
moro123 [1k\]: that would be miserable
moro123 [1k\]: b will win this
Ootakamoku [2d\]: corner looks safe, barely, but Im not 100% confident in my read
]
;W[dn]C[sakugo [?\]: start w b2 and consider e4 sente, and corner was looking pretty shaky
Ootakamoku [2d\]: w a8 is a problem if b tenuki?
snowman [-\]: a6 you mean
snowman [-\]: cannot tenuki
MUHAHAHA [-\]: he can tenuki
Ootakamoku [2d\]: a8 a6 e9 d9 a10 works too?
sagesse [-\]: r18 ?
]
;B[al]
;W[pr]
;B[qr]
;W[pc]
;B[pd]
;W[qc]C[Ootakamoku [2d\]: why b r16 and not r17?
Ootakamoku [2d\]: I know r17 isnt pretty but.. its getting close to yose so feels worth the few extra points
]
;B[db]C[Ootakamoku [2d\]: err.. b q16 and not r17
largehc [-\]: it's gote 
Ootakamoku [2d\]: right u r, thx
sagesse [-\]: is black going to invade soon?
]
;W[ib]C[sagesse [-\]: something like n8 ?
Ootakamoku [2d\]: I belive its called reduction, as there aint plans to live inside
sagesse [-\]: sure reduce)
sagesse [-\]: b16 possible?
sagesse [-\]: b16 c16 c17 b18 b13 
]
;B[hb]
;W[gr]
;B[fr]
;W[fs]C[Ootakamoku [2d\]: sagasse, just ask b13 directly in that case?
moro123 [1k\]: c16 b16 d15 at some point better maybe
]
;B[hr]C[robert [6k\]: i've just come on the phone. May I ask,  whose game is it?
fbp [7d\]: black is winning
MentalEdge [5k\]: white Ilya black Antti
]
;W[ha]
;B[aq]C[robert [6k\]: thx
]
;W[ar]
;B[ap]C[Chade [3k\]: go go antti ^^
Chade [3k\]: did antti win against ilja before?
]
;W[cr]C[USSRMan [3d\]: i dont think black is winning
backpack1 [2d\]: in fact w is already ahead ^^
]
;B[kr]
;W[lr]
;B[jr]C[barakeel [4d\]: i don't think w is winning
Chade [3k\]: you should all just listen to SE!
Bolko [2d\]: center is a bit of question still
USSRMan [3d\]: game is close
]
;W[mr]C[Hiridur [2d?\]: what does SE say?
Chade [3k\]: bottom right dead :p
tuquedenne [4d\]: white is a bit ahead
Test123 [2d\]: se says game is close
tuquedenne [4d\]: but black is sente
tuquedenne [4d\]: and plays usually a very strong yose
Bolko [2d\]: s17 gote for both but biggest?
]
;B[lk]
;W[mk]C[Chade [3k\]: what about m15?
Gardan [?\]: first couple "small" sente
barakeel [4d\]:  s17 has you said gote for both
Test123 [2d\]: i think it sente for white
Test123 [2d\]: s17
barakeel [4d\]: m11
]
;B[ga]
;W[ia]
;B[fb]
;W[sk]
;B[qg]C[USSRMan [3d\]: black's endgame will be better because he is more thick
USSRMan [3d\]: less aji
]
;W[qs]
;B[rs]
;W[ps]
;B[pq]
;W[or]C[tuquedenne [4d\]: sure
tuquedenne [4d\]: but i'm not sure it will be enough
hitaus [1k?\]: so, what's the B losing move?
]
;B[sr]C[moro123 [1k\]: u sure he's lost?
tuquedenne [4d\]: almost
moro123 [1k\]: what's the count?
hitaus [1k?\]: perhaps G15?
USSRMan [3d\]: count your self
tuquedenne [4d\]: I count w+komi at least
barakeel [4d\]: so black is ahead
sakugo [?\]: b seems to need more than 10 pts
Psychopath [4d?\]: Antti surely has stronger yose than Ilya though, but it might not be enough.
]
;W[gg]C[barakeel [4d\]: s17?
]
;B[lj]
;W[hh]C[USSRMan [3d\]: i count w + 4.5
USSRMan [3d\]: with his 7.5 komi
Bolko [2d\]: I count w ahead a lot more but then a lot of undecided :S
]
;B[gi]C[barakeel [4d\]: i count b +1.5
Hiridur [2d?\]: I count B+R
barakeel [4d\]: agreed
moro123 [1k\]: :)
Storokoro [2d\]: :|
]
;W[if]C[sakugo [?\]: still seems to me w 5 or so ahead on board. well, we'll certaily see what happens
largehc [-\]: too bad only the result counts :(
Namastee [4d\]: I bet on w
]
;B[he]C[Bolko [2d\]: http://europeangodatabase.eu/EGD/Tournament_Card.php?&key=E050304A&pin=12949310
Bolko [2d\]: antti won against ilya only time :D
Hiridur [2d?\]: and?
USSRMan [3d\]: too many undecided to count
]
;W[ih]C[sakugo [?\]: antti is clearly stronger nowadays
Bolko [2d\]: nobody else finds it funny antti was only 2d and ilya 6d?
]
;B[ll]
;W[ml]
;B[km]C[sakugo [?\]: h12 against m8 is good for b, b got points, w gained little
]
;W[rc]C[tuquedenne [4d\]: game almmost over
tuquedenne [4d\]: -m
finity [1k?\]: yeah, W+9.5 my guess
nanotech [2k\]: guess again....
badpunman [3d\]: i'll guess again in his stead and say it's w+9.5
Test123 [2d\]: a12 big
KiraLNear [3d\]: I counted and it is +5,5
kxk: w+r
USSRMan [3d\]: i have 5.5 as well
KiraLNear [3d\]: 3d power :)
barakeel [4d\]: black need to invade
kxk: egc2013^ as played Dinerchtein
]
;B[rd]C[barakeel [4d\]: a12?
Test123 [2d\]: n15 ?
]
;W[me]C[hitaus [1k?\]: L7 seems odd to take gote, but I guess it was necessary
]
;B[nd]C[Test123 [2d\]: m14 or k15 
]
;W[je]
;B[bd]C[Blair [4k\]: hi who's playing here ?
sakugo [?\]: b seems to be closing the gap, i now count 8 pts or so
largehc [-\]: toermaenen antti and shikshin ilja
Blair [4k\]: thx
]
;W[be]
;B[cd]
;W[ad]C[largehc [-\]: antti is black
]
;B[cc]
;W[bb]
;B[ah]
;W[bg]C[tuquedenne [4d\]: yes black is playing a strong yose as expected
sakugo [?\]: even closer now, i didn't count b gain w/ b16
tuquedenne [4d\]: but it will not be enough
Bolko [2d\]: b lost a13 sente also
largehc [-\]: maybe ha has a secret weapon
barakeel [4d\]: t17
tuquedenne [4d\]: t17 will be black
]
;B[ij]
;W[ii]C[tuquedenne [4d\]: ?? strange
Bolko [2d\]: huh :D
KiraLNear [3d\]: lol
tuquedenne [4d\]: was it played before EGC ?
pancake [-\]: that one was exchanged before, I guess :p
EGC2013c [?\]: yes i know
sagesse [-\]: j10 feels like black is sure of his win
tuquedenne [4d\]: or that scribe is sure not to follow the game ;)
EGC2013c [?\]: that not my mistake, someone elese did it
sagesse [-\]: ah...))
EGC2013c [?\]: so sorry for him
Test123 [2d\]: very cool exchange
sagesse [-\]: i guess it was a white-black exchange then?
klausP [7d?\]: sure
sagesse [-\]: )
barakeel [4d\]: m14 seems necessary
Test123 [2d\]: m13 some points
]
;B[sc]C[USSRMan [3d\]: why j11?
barakeel [4d\]: m13
sagesse [-\]: white might tenuki after t18 t16 
Test123 [2d\]: T18
]
;W[sb]
;B[sd]C[barakeel [4d\]: hard to tenuki
]
;W[qb]C[kxk: egc2013^ how played Dinerchtein?
sagesse [-\]: and play m12 
Test123 [2d\]: o may be resign
barakeel [4d\]: w + 4.5
barakeel [4d\]: i bet black win though
sagesse [-\]: antti is good at counting endgame points so he might pull it off
USSRMan [3d\]: why bet against your own count
barakeel [4d\]: cause i believe in antti 's magical power
kxk: W+15
]
;B[mf]C[Terao2sei [8k\]: With all the prisonners, b is leading
]
;W[le]C[chestr [2d\]: m15 
Bolko [2d\]: is he holding them hostage and threatening to kill them if w doesnt resign? 
]
;B[ne]C[USSRMan [3d\]: that was pretty big
barakeel [4d\]: w is too pa ssive
Gorim [1d\]: w won the game already
barakeel [4d\]: say that to black
Gorim [1d\]: he can pass now and probably win
Terao2sei [8k\]: no Gorim, if you count, it's not as simple as that.
tuquedenne [4d\]: it's kinda close actually
sagesse [-\]: Gorim better yet play a couple of moves inside his territory and still win))
Ootakamoku [2d\]: I feel like b went wrong with k7, should be m5 l4 m6 instead
tuquedenne [4d\]: w+1 or 2 points probably
Ootakamoku [2d\]: k7 is typical antti-honte
sagesse [-\]: w is ahead by less than komi
tuquedenne [4d\]: yep
tuquedenne [4d\]: but b can expect a w mistake in yose and win by a few
]
;W[oq]
;B[rm]C[backpack1 [2d\]:  s7 oO
barakeel [4d\]: quite big
barakeel [4d\]: ?
barakeel [4d\]: why not l13
Gorim [1d\]: guess white can answer with p9
Gorim [1d\]: and have a nice follow up
roamer [1k\]: go antti!
KiraLNear [3d\]: S7 seems unnecessary
barakeel [4d\]: what happen if white tenuki?
USSRMan [3d\]: i predict w + 3.5
Ootakamoku [2d\]: m5 l4 n7 n6 q7 r8 p6 q5 and then kill p11 !
chestr [2d\]: n13 maybe
Ootakamoku [2d\]: q6 might actually die, from the q7 m5 n7 ajis
Ootakamoku [2d\]: tho its hard to find a sequence that works, but its close
]
;W[lf]C[barakeel [4d\]: illya didnt find any sequence?
Test123 [2d\]: no adji
Hellhuman [-\]: go antti
Ootakamoku [2d\]: q7 r8 p6 q5 m5 l4 n4 
]
;B[pm]C[GGo: there is a sente move at m5
slkdj [2k?\]: woow
USSRMan [3d\]: what?
]
;W[ql]C[badpunman [3d\]: oh my
]
;B[ol]C[moro123 [1k\]: here we go
]
;W[ok]C[largehc [-\]: why?
seuraus: P5
]
;B[oo]C[Test123 [2d\]: what if e9 - d9 , than a9  
Ootakamoku [2d\]: p6 q5 m5 l4 n4 m3 n7 n6 p4 looks like works
Ootakamoku [2d\]: instead of p5
goantti [?\]: this works I think
brigantine [2d\]: :O Nice
seuraus: P5 is best
Ootakamoku [2d\]: ah, this works trivial
USSRMan [3d\]: this works
Ootakamoku [2d\]: tho I still feel b should ask m5 first
moro123 [1k\]: wow
barakeel [4d\]: o6 sente
tuquedenne [4d\]: oh interesting
largehc [-\]: doesn't that mean b  wins? :D
Ootakamoku [2d\]: m14 so greedy, w could have won by just answering s7, now he is losing
moro123 [1k\]: can't believe ilja missed this
barakeel [4d\]: no m5 is big
USSRMan [3d\]: p5, p4, p6, m5, l4, n7, n6, o6
Ootakamoku [2d\]: too confident in his own reading, roln that is
moro123 [1k\]: didnt bother double chech
Hellhuman [-\]: i am really to lazy to read, but i bet ilya finds a way
jnalanko [2k\]: very nice
Test123 [2d\]: its one point?
USSRMan [3d\]: wait
Bolko [2d\]: is somebody misreading?
USSRMan [3d\]: my sequence is wrong
Hellhuman [-\]: egc2013c, time?
karakacand: I dont even have a sequence
tuquedenne [4d\]: well q5 p4 and white is in trouble
roamer [1k\]: is there a living stream of the game?
Test123 [2d\]: 1 point
brigantine [2d\]: @karacand : lol
Test123 [2d\]: than p7 
barakeel [4d\]: p5 only move for w to save everything
barakeel [4d\]: q5
tuquedenne [4d\]: q5 p4 p7 o7 
largehc [-\]: q5 p4 p6 then what?
tuquedenne [4d\]: then o6 
largehc [-\]: o5 
Test123 [2d\]: p6 is bad
tuquedenne [4d\]: p6 and p7 didn't work actually
roamer [1k\]: that's a pity this is not on eurogotv :(
USSRMan [3d\]: q5, p4, p6, o7
Hellhuman [-\]: it is on egc website, isnt it?
barakeel [4d\]: so how it works?
kxk: q5
USSRMan [3d\]: o6
jnalanko [2k\]: egc2013.go.art.pl/page/live
churckin [2k\]: q5 p4 p6 o6 p7 o7 q8 r4 o8 
jnalanko [2k\]: live stream at table 3
Test123 [2d\]: q5 p4 p7 
moro123 [1k\]: like to see roln face now
sagesse [-\]:  anyone got a sequence after q5 ?
x0000 [-\]: why not q5?
badpunman [3d\]: neat yose
pancake [-\]: he has to p6, funny :3
akairyuu [2d?\]: too bad the players aren't visible on the stream :/
roamer [1k\]: thanks i saw that but you can see only the board!
barakeel [4d\]: can some one tell me the sequence after q5
slkdj [2k?\]: not sure i get why its so bad for w
tuquedenne [4d\]: ok Test123, then after p7 black plays o7
Ootakamoku [2d\]: wuts going on?
pancake [-\]: q5 p4 p7 m5 l4 m4 m3 o7 q8 n7 
brigantine [2d\]: http://egc2013.go.art.pl/page/live
largehc [-\]: terrible things
brigantine [2d\]: table 3
Farcas [2d\]: whu win?
brigantine [2d\]: Ilya moving a lot in Live
largehc [-\]: I don't think this works
Test123 [2d\]: haha
Mukti [4d\]: It looks vey fishy but I have not found anything to actually work for b if w plays Q5
moro123 [1k\]: q5 p4 p6 o6 o5 m5
Test123 [2d\]: that works
pancake [-\]: see my sequence mukti
Hellhuman [-\]: fredda y u no playing egc?
largehc [-\]: oh right
largehc [-\]: thanks
Farcas [2d\]: who is winner?
USSRMan [3d\]: q5, p4, p7?
tuquedenne [4d\]: then o7 and ?
largehc [-\]: Antti, you're a genius!
Test123 [2d\]: white in trobble
Werfeus [5d\]: q5 p4 p7 o7.. good for b
barakeel [4d\]: thanks pancake
tuquedenne [4d\]: if w plays p7 after q5 p4 it's a ko
tuquedenne [4d\]: if w plays p6 it's just dead
Ootakamoku [2d\]: poor b, cannot even compromise with p6
Ootakamoku [2d\]: err,, w
Ootakamoku [2d\]: p6 m5 l4 o6 
kxk: there's nothing here q5
x0000 [-\]: I don't see ko
tuquedenne [4d\]: q5 p4 p7 o7 q8 p6 then it's a ko
tuquedenne [4d\]: cause white has to connect left
Test123 [2d\]: p6 o6 
Test123 [2d\]: and big trobble
barakeel [4d\]: so is it b+ resign
barakeel [4d\]: ?
tuquedenne [4d\]: yes probably
Werfeus [5d\]: q5 p4 p7 o7 o8 m5
tuquedenne [4d\]: very nice sequence Antti just've read
roamer [1k\]: well isn't a close game anyway?
Poney [1d\]: why P7 and not P6 for white
Poney [1d\]: i don't get it
kxk: w+r
roamer [1k\]: w was pretty ahead
tuquedenne [4d\]: not pretty
jnalanko [2k\]: q5 p4 p6 o6 p7 o7 q8 m5 l4 n7?
kxk: q5
Shinichi56 [-\]: gg b !
tuquedenne [4d\]: w was ahead but by a very few points
ottoovs [1k\]: q5 p4 p6 o6 o5 m5 l4 n7 
barakeel [4d\]: i think antti read it a long time ago
moro123 [1k\]: yeah
Hellhuman [-\]: q5 p4 p6 then?
barakeel [4d\]: because he played s7 so fast
tuquedenne [4d\]: then o6 HellHuman...
Hellhuman [-\]: o5 
WVoron [5d\]: its finished?
Hellhuman [-\]: so what?
moro123 [1k\]: m5
kxk: q5 create miai p4 and p7
Mukti [4d\]: B won now. Nice tesuji.
tuquedenne [4d\]: well just m5
tuquedenne [4d\]: you can't save everrything
barakeel [4d\]: w wil lose more than 15 point any how
moro123 [1k\]: it's huge
Test123 [2d\]: no
barakeel [4d\]: maybe then
Bolko [2d\]: kinda weird for w to misread this, I guess long tournament takes it toll
barakeel [4d\]: ten
WVoron [5d\]: m5=resign
Mukti [4d\]: M5 will lose the game, it was close and w will lose a lot here.
tuquedenne [4d\]: cause b managed to get o6 sente
Ootakamoku [2d\]: q5 m5 l4 n7 n6 n4 
Test123 [2d\]: white no way
USSRMan [3d\]: q5, p4, p7, o7, q8, m4 and white dead
barakeel [4d\]: that was the purpose of getting gote at l7
WVoron [5d\]: q5 only
bleen [-\]: time left?
WVoron [5d\]: and ko
Test123 [2d\]: didn't work
bleen [-\]: @ egc
eureka [5k\]: what was the go term for when you need to capture some stones inside your territory when outside liberties are filled?
Mukti [4d\]: what ko WVoron?
bleen [-\]: semeai
WVoron [5d\]: m4
Hiridur [2d?\]: semedori*
Test123 [2d\]: lol
tuquedenne [4d\]: semedori
barakeel [4d\]: m6 m5
Mukti [4d\]: Q5-P4 and w always loses something. No ko.
Werfeus [5d\]: q5 gives no ko
eureka [5k\]: that's it yea, thanks
pancake [-\]: M4 ko non-existant, he can m4 first and then m5
tuquedenne [4d\]: oh yeah :)
Test123 [2d\]: i think its over
kxk: q5 no tesuji
ottoovs [1k\]: q5 p4 p6 o6 o5 m5 l4 n7 
WVoron [5d\]: ye
tuquedenne [4d\]: please stop it kxk, you show nothing but your guest status :)
Ootakamoku [2d\]: in way, w shouldnt need to think here, he has to play q5 because any compromise no matter how small and he loses the game
Ootakamoku [2d\]: so just play q5 and see what happens next
]
;W[po]C[WVoron [5d\]: ok
WVoron [5d\]: i was right
tuquedenne [4d\]: very nice one by Anttii still
x0000 [-\]: kok
]
;B[lo]C[x0000 [-\]: lol
barakeel [4d\]: now ko
barakeel [4d\]: but still
pancake [-\]: other one was better, but ko is enough to win the game
tuquedenne [4d\]: yeah
moro123 [1k\]: too many threats
WVoron [5d\]: you all say no ko
WVoron [5d\]: now what?
Test123 [2d\]: m4 p4 p6 o6 o5 n5 
Mukti [4d\]: B could have avoided it, WVoron.
kxk: l4
Mukti [4d\]: But he doesn't mind, this is a 100% win also.
pancake [-\]: ^^
barakeel [4d\]: but it would be smaller for black
pancake [-\]: smaller, but win nonetheless
pancake [-\]: like 10 points sequence then
kxk: l4
SirEttin [1d\]: how much time left
Mukti [4d\]: resigning seems the only viable option now, it must be hell fro w to lose like this...
barakeel [4d\]: ten point maybe not enough
tuquedenne [4d\]: for sure it is
Test123 [2d\]: b has so many kos
tuquedenne [4d\]: black was only 3 or 4 points behind
barakeel [4d\]: yes
Wraith [3d\]: No ko
brigantine [2d\]: if Ilya didn't resign he maybe counted ko threats before playing p5
ThiGar [3k\]: SE/ w+13
brigantine [2d\]: q5*
pancake [-\]: b needs quite a few huge kothreats
kxk: l4
USSRMan [3d\]: ko doesnt work
Mukti [4d\]: B only needs a few points from this ko, it was very close before.
pancake [-\]: you mean it's no ko, USSRMan?
USSRMan [3d\]: yes
kxk: l4
pancake [-\]: how not?
barakeel [4d\]: but black gave away some points
barakeel [4d\]: by q7 and p5
Mukti [4d\]: True, Barakeel.
barakeel [4d\]: maybe not p5
USSRMan [3d\]: m4 n4
goantti [?\]: also P8
USSRMan [3d\]: no ko there
pancake [-\]: black has at least 3 huge kothreats at the b5 group
Mukti [4d\]: M4-N4? ussrman???
x0000 [-\]: m4 n4 n5 
kxk: l4
Mukti [4d\]: M5-N5 ko
kxk: there's nothing here
Mukti [4d\]: I don't get what you mean USSRMan...
USSRMan [3d\]: where does white start the ko?
Mukti [4d\]: with M4
pancake [-\]: M4
]
;W[mo]C[USSRMan [3d\]: n5
]
;B[kp]C[Mukti [4d\]: Its a horrific ko bu he has nothing else.
]
;W[lp]
;B[jq]C[USSRMan [3d\]: how does white respond
]
;W[lq]C[akairyuu [2d?\]: impressive
Test123 [2d\]: huge
moro123 [1k\]: whos winning now?!
ThiGar [3k\]: SE: w+3
Test123 [2d\]: m14  overplay
Mukti [4d\]: At N7 USSRMan
pancake [-\]: ThiGar, stop quoting SE, it doesn't even make sense
badpunman [3d\]: superb
]
;B[mg]C[Ootakamoku [2d\]: m5 l4 n4 n5 m4 m3 n7 n6 o7 would have blown up w if he hadnt compromised?
WVoron [5d\]: black+5-6points
badpunman [3d\]: m5 l4 p4 p7 o7 q8 n4 
Test123 [2d\]: still ko
dxxd [1d\]: great tournament for antti
ThiGar [3k\]: only do it if SE has clear cases
badpunman [3d\]: or am i wrong
pancake [-\]: if P9 at P7, would this catastrophe be avoided for w?
WVoron [5d\]: need magic yose
Ootakamoku [2d\]: ah, that too
badpunman [3d\]: nah, white m4 would counter that
x0000 [-\]: b+2
Ootakamoku [2d\]: cant skip p9, otherwise, p11 stones are laddered
]
(;W[df]C[pancake [-\]: ah I see, silly me :)
badpunman [3d\]: oh, right, just black m4 in my sequence instead of n4
ThiGar [3k\]: m13
])
(;W[ko]
;B[ic]
;W[jb]
;B[lo]
;W[df]C[Ootakamoku [2d\]: ok, no need to watch the rest of the game, antti won
]
;B[]
;W[jj]
;B[jk]C[EGC2013c [?\]: sorry
Test123 [2d\]: speed of the light
EGC2013c [?\]: too muchy light
EGC2013c [?\]: didnt see exact sequence
]
;W[ko]
;B[ji]
;W[jp]
;B[jh]
;W[jg]
;B[hg]
(;W[gh]C[Test123 [2d\]: se change his...
Test123 [2d\]: for b
])
(;W[ig]
(;B[gh])
(;B[fe]
;W[ef]
;B[gh]C[SirEttin [1d\]: this b2 bomber should be enough to make w resign
badpunman [3d\]: strange sequence
EGC2013c [?\]: i cant see anything
EGC2013c [?\]: too much light
akairyuu [2d?\]: yea the camera is a pretty crap one :(
Test123 [2d\]: use photoshop
]
;W[]
;B[kg]C[Gardan [?\]: correct position is only thing that matter
EGC2013c [?\]: they didnt play like this
EGC2013c [?\]: ok thx Gard
ThiGar [3k\]: look directly at the board
inte [?\]: right, almost impossible to see the white stones on the video.
Test123 [2d\]: just put the stones - it will be a quest
eureka [5k\]: heh, Ilya's head is also blocking the view :D
Test123 [2d\]: it's allright
EGC2013c [?\]: eyah
EGC2013c [?\]: he tries to trick me
EGC2013c [?\]: with his head
EGC2013c [?\]: ^^
]
;W[lg]
(;B[lh]C[akairyuu [2d?\]: J15/K14 was also exchanged
])
(;B[ie]
;W[jf]
;B[lh]C[Mukti [4d\]: B+3,5
Gardan [?\]: antti gains a lot in yose 
moro123 [1k\]: n11
]
;W[mi]
;B[kf]
;W[ke]
;B[kh]C[Hellhuman [-\]: o13 
x0000 [-\]: I see black stones only
]
;W[id]
;B[hd]
;W[jd]
;B[mh]
;W[oh]C[akairyuu [2d?\]: yeah. well, that's only the relevant part as black is going to win anyways. might as well have only black stones on the board
]
;B[og]
;W[ep]C[Shinichi56 [-\]: yeah 3.5
ErgoProxy [6d\]: n12 was 0 points gain locally
]
;B[sm]
;W[sl]C[wade [5d\]: are there any results between ali and dinerstein?
eureka [5k\]: Ergo why aren't you in Poland as well? :)
kamyszyn [3d\]: wade not yet
]
;B[aj]C[wade [5d\]: thx
ErgoProxy [6d\]: because I was in Peru :)
]
;W[nh]
;B[gq]C[badpunman [3d\]: so you had to peru your trip to poland
eureka [5k\]: haha, ok an acceptable reason :p
tuquedenne [4d\]: cause he's too old
EGC2013c [?\]: no noe is too old to come to Poland
EGC2013c [?\]: I inviet everyone
Bolko [2d\]: too bad that pun only worked in finnish :(
EGC2013c [?\]: *invite
ErgoProxy [6d\]: close game
tuquedenne [4d\]: but enough for black I hope
ErgoProxy [6d\]: yea, lets hope b wins :)
SNES [1d\]: this is going to be a half-pointer
]
;W[gs]
;B[hs]
;W[es]C[Daihokama [1k?\]: 0,5pt game
]
;B[ng]C[tuquedenne [4d\]: well it's not only a hope because I prefer Anttii winning (which I do)
SirEttin [1d\]: wasnt w suppose to resign long time back
tuquedenne [4d\]: but because he found that wonderful p5 tesuji
Test123 [2d\]: h10 e12 
]
;W[da]
;B[ea]
;W[ca]
;B[ip]C[zaboomafoo [3k\]: seems w win
Konservas [2k\]: black ahead by two points?
kurii [3d\]: b+
USSRMan [3d\]: b+ 3.5
x0000 [-\]: w+0.5
USSRMan [3d\]: cant reverse the game now
Daihokama [1k?\]: g6 is sente?
x0000 [-\]: g6 is not sente
ErgoProxy [6d\]: seems like w might take this game after all?
zaboomafoo [3k\]: e12 is
Test123 [2d\]: b +1/5
x0000 [-\]: l4 
WVoron [5d\]: +3
Test123 [2d\]: or 2/5
zaboomafoo [3k\]: e12
ErgoProxy [6d\]: and w has komi
ErgoProxy [6d\]: ...
Hellhuman [-\]: b .5
USSRMan [3d\]: white will play this ko
Test123 [2d\]: with komi
badpunman [3d\]: b+1,5 or so
badpunman [3d\]: maaybe
k0n0 [?\]: if W connects then B+1.5 according to SE
Test123 [2d\]: r4 sente
tuquedenne [4d\]: yes b+1.5 looks good to me
x0000 [-\]: if w connects it's 0.5 ko for win
akairyuu [2d?\]: E12 H10 has been played
]
(;W[])
(;W[eh]
;B[hj]C[WVoron [5d\]: w need to play ko
WVoron [5d\]: to win
Test123 [2d\]: or may be 2 ko
ErgoProxy [6d\]: w wins by 0,5 if connets?
Gorim [1d\]: t10 and then l1
WVoron [5d\]: no
WVoron [5d\]: black +
WVoron [5d\]: for me
Mukti [4d\]: I agree, w mustplay the ko or he will lose by 0,5
moro123 [1k\]: ko is on
KiraLNear [3d\]: lol
]
;W[li]
;B[kp]C[Ootakamoku [2d\]: why is there a b pass in the sequence?
]
;W[ks]
;B[mj]C[x0000 [-\]: W shouldn't play ko, it was 0.5
WVoron [5d\]:  i think roln count better x000
finity [1d?\]: what is the time situation?
Mukti [4d\]: I counted w-0,5 if he would not play the ko, but the position keeps changing...
]
;W[ki]
;B[kj]
;W[ni]
;B[lo]
(;W[sh])
(;W[sj]C[finity [1d?\]: with this fast changes it seems easy to lose points
]
;B[sh]
;W[ko]
;B[ma]
;W[la]C[zaboomafoo [3k\]: b has the endgame threats
x0000 [-\]: I can clone, WVoron
Ootakamoku [2d\]: k1 as big as the ko
]
;B[lo]
;W[rr]
;B[rq]C[Poney [1d\]: what about k1 ?
]
;W[ko]
;B[oa]
;W[pa]
;B[lo]C[Ootakamoku [2d\]: hmm, no, 1 point smaller than ko
]
;W[ek]
;B[dk]
;W[ko]
;B[rb]
;W[ra]
;B[lo]C[Daihokama [1k?\]: k1 and g6 
]
;W[an]C[k0n0 [?\]: p4 many threats
KiraLNear [3d\]: hmm
USSRMan [3d\]: isn this a fake threat
Ootakamoku [2d\]: b9
finity [1d?\]: and o8 maybe
SNES [1d\]: c5 
]
;B[co]C[Ootakamoku [2d\]: c5 wut..
KiraLNear [3d\]: C5...
]
;W[ko]C[USSRMan [3d\]: what the
zaboomafoo [3k\]: it was ko
]
;B[js]C[zaboomafoo [3k\]: another bigger ko
]
;W[ls]
;B[lo]C[moro123 [1k\]: whats wrong with c5?
SNES [1d\]: nope
]
;W[am]
;B[ak]
;W[ko]C[USSRMan [3d\]: makes a million more threats
Mukti [4d\]: W lost a point...
Ootakamoku [2d\]: nothing wrong except c5 cost points
Ootakamoku [2d\]: for w
ErgoProxy [6d\]: f9 are dead
]
;B[ac]
;W[ab]
;B[lo]
;W[gc]C[USSRMan [3d\]: a13 creates ko for seki
]
;B[gb]
;W[ko]C[WVoron [5d\]: really?
USSRMan [3d\]: wait
USSRMan [3d\]: nvm
Ootakamoku [2d\]: a13 doesnt do anything
moro123 [1k\]: no seki
Mukti [4d\]: No seki there USSSRMan
pivoglotov [5k?\]: f9 dead
Mukti [4d\]: w just lost a point
moro123 [1k\]: yeah sad
]
;B[br]
;W[bs]
;B[lo]C[finity [1d?\]: still a half pointer
Mukti [4d\]: and b still has lots of threats left
]
;W[eb]
;B[ec]
;W[ko]C[Ootakamoku [2d\]: p4 
]
;B[op]C[WVoron [5d\]: p4
Ciovo [?\]: m17 also
Ciovo [?\]: no..
Ootakamoku [2d\]: m17 not threat
]
;W[on]
;B[lo]C[zaboomafoo [3k\]: l17 would make eye
Ootakamoku [2d\]: b should use a15 threat before this
Mukti [4d\]: A15 costs poins OOta
Ootakamoku [2d\]: in theory, not in practice
KiraLNear [3d\]: ?
pivoglotov [5k?\]: у белых угрозы похоже кончились
USSRMan [3d\]: a5 is threat
WVoron [5d\]: a5
Ootakamoku [2d\]: ok, maybe it costs points anyways
WVoron [5d\]: then a7
Ootakamoku [2d\]: need to count the end games left to determine if a15 threat costs points or not
ErgoProxy [6d\]: b+ 0,5
WVoron [5d\]: but blac has morre
Mukti [4d\]: Such an exciting game! Too bad the final is so one-sided.
]
;W[ao]
;B[bn]
;W[ko]C[Poney [1d\]: happens often mukti
moro123 [1k\]: o6
badpunman [3d\]: ah, winning this ko is sente too
]
;B[nn]C[Poney [1d\]: Only one winner :)
]
;W[no]
;B[lo]C[sagesse [-\]: black wins by 1.5?
Ootakamoku [2d\]: b has 2 threats, only 1 left for w
Mukti [4d\]: B seems to win by 1 threat...
]
;W[an]C[Mukti [4d\]: and then b played R4 and w took
]
;B[am]C[badpunman [3d\]: oh, it's not, nevermind
Mukti [4d\]: I think w took the ko
Mukti [4d\]: Only logical order
KiraLNear [3d\]: ilya didn't lose his mind after all :)
]
(;W[np]C[KiraLNear [3d\]: ?
Ootakamoku [2d\]: wut?
Poney [1d\]: Well fill
finity [1d?\]: white counted threats too :)
KiraLNear [3d\]: egc forgot the ko?
USSRMan [3d\]: why
Ootakamoku [2d\]: well, b l5 is sente otherwise
Gardan [?\]: it seemed in stream also strange
SNES [1d\]: something smells fishy
Ootakamoku [2d\]: so he played big reverse sente
lilix [3k\]: black win?
badpunman [3d\]: snes, sorry
bistrogo [3d\]: yes
Ootakamoku [2d\]: oh, not
Ootakamoku [2d\]: hmm
moro123 [1k\]: g6?
USSRMan [3d\]: why not g6 instead of this move
sagesse [-\]: r4 was played
Mukti [4d\]: Yes
Mukti [4d\]: This move makes no sense
lilix [3k\]: A13
]
(;B[qp]C[Ootakamoku [2d\]: ok, so b just fills and wins
KiraLNear [3d\]: ?
])
(;B[ko]C[badpunman [3d\]: take ko, play r4, o4
KiraLNear [3d\]: yes :)
badpunman [3d\]: oh
badpunman [3d\]: oh well
WVoron [5d\]: lol
]
;W[ag]C[moro123 [1k\]: messed up
]))
(;W[ag]
;B[ko]
;W[np]
;B[qp]C[Mukti [4d\]: ?
USSRMan [3d\]: g6?
EGC2013c [?\]: no
EGC2013c [?\]: my friend changed me
EGC2013c [?\]: and wtfed the sequence
Mukti [4d\]: R4 is a pass now
EGC2013c [?\]: :D
Mukti [4d\]: G6 is 1 point
KiraLNear [3d\]: well it was played before O4
sagesse [-\]: the order of moves was just different
EGC2013c [?\]: y I am sorry
EGC2013c [?\]: yup.
Ootakamoku [2d\]: r4 was played as a threat
Mukti [4d\]: Oh, OK. No problem.
Ootakamoku [2d\]: and then ko filled
bobstep [2d?\]: mukti, r4 was played to force w to capture
EGC2013c [?\]: y I know
EGC2013c [?\]: but don't know the exact one
sagesse [-\]: g6 a11 now 
moro123 [1k\]: g6 a11
]
;W[gn]
;B[ai]C[bistrogo [3d\]: who played g6?
moro123 [1k\]: w
bistrogo [3d\]: oki thx ;)
ErgoProxy [6d\]: SE says b+2,5
finity [1d?\]: black win now
Mukti [4d\]: Well, B won in any case.
moro123 [1k\]: congratz antti
Mukti [4d\]: Thx very much for the relay.
ErgoProxy [6d\]: official result?
KiraLNear [3d\]: ilya so mad, only got 6/10
ErgoProxy [6d\]: really nice tournament for Antti
KiraLNear [3d\]: yeah. antti now young man cash man
Ootakamoku [2d\]: I guess rolns extreme confidence in his good reading abilities cost him this game, because of the tenuki to m14
USSRMan [3d\]: what is the prize for 6/10
Slowmatch: Snazzy play Antti this tournament!
Bolko [2d\]: lost the wrong game tho
Hiridur [2d?\]: did antti win?
jnalanko [2k\]: seems ilja resigned
jnalanko [2k\]: they're cleaning the stones up on the stream
SNES [1d\]: he always does that :/
tuquedenne [4d\]: or they counted quick
Hiridur [2d?\]: ty
USSRMan [3d\]: did he nuclear tesuji before resign?
KiraLNear [3d\]: egc2013c, can you confirm the result :D
apina [1d\]: ilja resigned again in point counting?
tuquedenne [4d\]: finally p5 tesuji was not useless :)
Ootakamoku [2d\]: naa, just resigned
Ootakamoku [2d\]: no counting occured
EGC2013c [?\]: B+R
pivoglotov [5k?\]: lol
Bolko [2d\]: Ilya still cashed at weekend so cant say he can be too pissed off
ThiGar [3k\]: thx EGC2013c for telling us. Otherwise no way to know
tomason: Anti is for me a big surprise for me
tomason: 8 wins ... wow
eureka [5k\]: Thanks for relaying EGC
zen99 [7k\]: where is anti from?
eureka [5k\]: Finland
zen99 [7k\]: ty
finity [1d?\]: is there any prize for 2nd in main tournament, although 5th in cup?
tuquedenne [4d\]: very strong Anttii
tomason: EGC, could you tell us results of other finished games?
zen99 [7k\]: thanks for the relay EGC
tuquedenne [4d\]: most likely finity
ThiGar [3k\]: Anttii wins 2nd place in EGC open.
finity [1d?\]: it would
zen99 [7k\]: where does this conference rank out of the biggies?
finity [1d?\]: 've been fun if Antti had only lost to Fan Hui twice :)
tuquedenne [4d\]: but he never played fan is it ?
finity [1d?\]: then he would've been 2nd in both main and cup
finity [1d?\]: tuqu: no he lost in round 4 or something
finity [1d?\]: IIRC
finity [1d?\]: R5
finity [1d?\]: only loss apart from Surma in the first round of the cup
zen99 [7k\]: is ROLNs on our KSS  Shikshin????
zen99 [7k\]: kgs
ThiGar [3k\]: http://egc2013.go.art.pl/EGC2013_main.html  --> Anttii second
Blair [4k\]: what is the result here ?
HelloQtion [-\]: b+res
bistrogo [3d\]: but antti is first of the open right?
Blair [4k\]: thx and who was playing
bistrogo [3d\]: it's written
Blair [4k\]: not on phones
bistrogo [3d\]: so Sikshin white
eureka [5k\]: yes
bistrogo [3d\]: shikshin*
Blair [4k\]: thx
bistrogo [3d\]: and tormanen black
Idn [3d\]: tiens un bistro ;)
bistrogo [3d\]: hehe t'as interet a bien representer la ligue ;)
sanamkuta [4d\]: dusan game id
Idn [3d\]: avec qui je vais boire des bieres :)
sanamkuta [4d\]: this? 
bistrogo [3d\]: ben Laurent quelle question ;)
sanamkuta [4d\]: I cant see player cuz using tablet 
Idn [3d\]: mouais
Idn [3d\]: je ferais de mon mieux, je n'ai jamais été un bon représentant, mais qui sais, sur un malentendu :p
bistrogo [3d\]: hehe
bistrogo [3d\]: (dusan's game is not relayed)
Idn [3d\]: ça se passe bien pour toi?
bistrogo [3d\]: ben oui mais bon le chat perso c'est peut-etre mieux non ;)
Idn [3d\]: tu ne veux pas exposer ta vie devant le monde entier?? étrange ... :p
behta [1d\]: alors que d'hab...
Drakemite [7d\]: who win?
behta [1d\]: Tor
behta [1d\]: 2.5
Drakemite [7d\]: ah b so strong
sanamkuta [4d\]: antti!!!!
globax [3d\]: thx egc
hoctempus [5d?\]: Go Antii!
largehc [-\]: isn't the game over 
shaolan [5k\]: it is   EGC2013c [?\]: B+R
largehc [-\]: awesome 
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