(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Chinese]SZ[9]KM[7.50]TM[1800]
GN[Ia-Go Challenge]PW[Catalin Taranu]PB[Mogo]WR[5p]DT[2008-03-22]RO[3]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[IaGoChall [-\]: you can follow the comment in Zure's demonstration
XEPI [1d\]: where is that?
IaGoChall [-\]: in Paris
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;B[ee]
;W[gd]
;B[ge]
;W[he]
;B[gf]
;W[fd]C[Violence [?\]: Does Mogo learn from its past games, or can Catalin just essentially play the same game as the first game and win?
IaGoChall [-\]: mogo is randomized
EagleHelm [13k\]: why is the time not going down?
IaGoChall [-\]: we can't make the time going down in the demonstration
IaGoChall [-\]: it's going down on the real game, and i'll make some time reports during the game
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;B[dd]C[ndfsoccer [2k\]: the series is 1-1?
IaGoChall [-\]: yes
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;W[cg]
;B[hf]
;W[dc]C[botho [2d\]: why did catalin resign in the second game? i counted  about 22 p for mogo and 24.5 for catalin with 7,5 komi
IaGoChall [-\]: after the game, he said he was losing by 3,5 points
IaGoChall [-\]: but he did'nt want to lose by 0,5 points in the end :)
IaGoChall [-\]: 25 minutes left for mogo, 27 for Catalin
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;B[ce]C[permlover: C5 is interesting. if that works as a double move then its awesome
breakfast [3p\]: W can win by sacrificing C3
IaGoChall [-\]: thank you breakfast for your comments :)
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;W[cc]C[breakfast [3p\]: C7 here + good yose
breakfast [3p\]: Black E3- White B5 and game over
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;B[bf]
;W[eg]C[IaGoChall [-\]: 22 minutes left for Mogo, 24 minutes for Catalin
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;B[ec]C[IaGoChall [-\]: Catalin looks embarassed
IaGoChall [-\]: he's frowning
IaGoChall [-\]: pachi !
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;W[ed]C[IaGoChall [-\]: pachi means he smacked the stone down
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;B[fe]C[IaGoChall [-\]: 19 minutes left for Catalin, 21 for mogo
breakfast [3p\]: W cannot skip H6
breakfast [3p\]: if B3 - Black can H6-H7-G7
breakfast [3p\]: H6-B3-B6 and W wins, because of komi
IaGoChall [-\]: time : 11:30 left for white, 21 for mogo
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;W[hd]C[Harmony [-\]: not an uninteresting question : KoReNJe: is mogo thinking, while it's opponent's turn?
IaGoChall [-\]: yes
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;B[gb]
;W[fc]C[breakfast [3p\]: Mogo needs 100 more computers :) still cannot count 5 moves ahead
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;B[eb]
;W[fb]
;B[fa]
;W[db]C[IaGoChall [-\]: In desperate situations, mogo tries desperate moves - this is quite consistent, at least from our point of view of programmers.
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;B[ea]
;W[da]C[breakfast [3p\]: maybe he wants to get J5 in sente, but it's still gote
breakfast [3p\]: so, no benefit at all for B
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;B[bd]C[IaGoChall [-\]: 9:30 left for white, 16 for black
breakfast [3p\]: B3 and game over :)
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;W[gh]C[breakfast [3p\]: yes, it works too
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;B[hh]C[ndfsoccer [2k\]: will mogo resign, or simply play all the legal moves possible if loosing?
IaGoChall [-\]: resign
IaGoChall [-\]: (when he sees he's losing)
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;W[bg]C[arara [1k\]: when is the 19x19 game?
IaGoChall [-\]: tomorrow
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;B[eh]
;W[fh]C[OursBlanc [1k\]: will mogo have handicap tomorrow ?
IaGoChall [-\]: yes, but we don't know how many stones
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;B[ga]
;W[hb]
;B[dh]
;W[dg]
;B[ag]
;W[ah]
;B[bh]
;W[af]
;B[ch]
(;W[ei])
(;W[fg]C[IaGoChall [-\]: sorry for the mistake in broadcasting
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;B[hi]C[breakfast [3p\]: I have a friend here -6d, who can give 30+ stones to Many Faces, level 10
breakfast [3p\]: even if Mogo is stronger ...
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;W[ae]C[IaGoChall [-\]: but still, Mogo won the second game...
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;B[cd]C[permlover: did catalin start laughing yet?
IaGoChall [-\]: no, he's still very concentrated
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;W[bc]
;B[ad]
;W[ei]C[Ciovo [?\]: you should ask Catalin if he let him win, or tried something strange to see how Mogo answered in a strange situation..
IaGoChall [-\]: after the game, he just said : "this computer does'nt make big mistakes"
IaGoChall [-\]: Mogo resigned
IaGoChall [-\]: Thank you for watching the game, see you tomorrow for the 19*19 exhibition game vs Catalin !
tildebis [4d?\]: thx
Kyle [1k\]: and died everywhere
Zhab [6k?\]: mogo got owned T_T
jjermann [2k\]: thx
Suicidal1 [11k?\]: what time tomorrow?
Rotwang [3k\]: Will Catalin review for MoGo?
Zharf [8k\]: 5pm
gaudi [1k\]: what is the meaning of a game like this?
Firebolt [6k\]: losing by 1 pt or 100 makes no difference
Arie [6k\]: CET or?
pointer [-\]: which timezone?
WeakPlr [2k\]: 5 pm GMT?
Zharf [8k\]: CET I think
pointer [-\]: kk
Zharf [8k\]: same time as the first 9x9 today
Zharf [8k\]: erm... or were these games 30 minutes late?
Zharf [8k\]: so GMT?
Zharf [8k\]: I'm not sure
KoReNJe [4d\]: t
og [18k\]: it must GMT
og [18k\]: 5pm CET hasn't happened yet
Zharf [8k\]: it has
gaudi [1k\]: what is the price for Catalin ?
og [18k\]: today? 5pm CET is 9pm GMT right now
ketchup [6k?\]: just look at message of the day
og [18k\]: oh, 10pm, sorry
Zharf [8k\]: CET = GMT +1  :)
sum [5d\]: history: first pro loss against PC
faithkeys [8k\]: so who wons
faithkeys [8k\]: -s
og [18k\]: wait, it is? getting confused with different timezone abbreviations.
Zharf [8k\]: me too
Zharf [8k\]: CET is center europe
sum [5d\]: is correct
Zharf [8k\]: also some in the US timezones?
milton [8k\]: should make an internet time zone
Zharf [8k\]: :)
ulasonder [4k\]: any pro haven t loose any games to cpmputers before?
tukan [4k?\]: there
Zharf [8k\]: there is internet time specification somewhere
tukan [4k?\]: is internet time
calathar [4k\]: sum: actually, I think Guo Juan lost to a computer in 9x9 once on here last year
sum [5d\]: even game?
calathar [4k\]: yeah
sum [5d\]: ic
wysek [3k?\]: it was not even
wysek [3k?\]: AFAIR
sum [5d\]: o
calathar [4k\]: i could be wrong on who it was
calathar [4k\]: but I'm pretty sure it was
heegaard [6k\]: calathar -against mogo
calathar [4k\]: she played like 5 in a row
calathar [4k\]: and lost one
calathar [4k\]: no, not mogo
tmc [-\]: One of them was even, but it seemed like a series of casual games.
calathar [4k\]: I don't think mogo existed at the time?
calathar [4k\]: tmc: correct
calathar [4k\]: it wasn't too deeply considered, at any rate :)
ulasonder [4k\]: maybe they r programming in a common and difficult way. There r not too many possibilities on board I think :S
wysek [3k?\]: guo juan was white and komi 0.5
wysek [3k?\]: so not even:)
Aclase [10k\]: sorry
cring [7k\]: is this game 3?
calathar [4k\]: wysek: ah, my mistake
calathar [4k\]: thanks for correcting me :)
Aclase [10k\]: how many stones mogo have
Aclase [10k\]: on 19*19 handi
wysek [3k?\]: :)
WandererC [24k\]: any confirmation on the exact time the game will be at tomorrow then? i.e. what time GMT?
ulasonder [4k\]: they dont know the handi yet for tomorrow
ulasonder [4k\]: 17. 00 GMY
cring [7k\]: did mogo already play all of its games today?
ulasonder [4k\]: *GMT
ulasonder [4k\]: I know He played 3 
tmc [-\]: I think it is 15:00 GMT
cring [7k\]: did he win any?
ulasonder [4k\]: 2 nd one
cring [7k\]: cool
tmc [-\]: check IaGoChall's info
ulasonder [4k\]: mogo won with white
WandererC [24k\]: why so much confusion? isn't the official time publicised anywhere?
tmc [-\]: Yes.  IaGoChall's info
iam2k [2k\]: confusing nick
og [18k\]: http://paris2008.jeudego.org/ it's on there
milton [8k\]: will mogo play the same game if the human plays the same ?
og [18k\]: basically, 20.5 hours time?
ulasonder [4k\]: no, He randomize sometimes
iam2k [2k\]: randomize against a pro funny...
tmc [-\]: I think it's 19.5 hours time
ulasonder [4k\]: :D, pro s randomize at beginning too :D
iam2k [2k\]: oO
iam2k [2k\]: i do too the first move
ulasonder [4k\]: there r a lots of good moves, and makes not much difference which you play
iam2k [2k\]: ahhhh thats why u are 4k
ulasonder [4k\]: :D
ulasonder [4k\]: in fact im 6k
og [18k\]: it's 20.5, i'm fairly sure.
seaglespn [9k\]: Humans Win!!!
MiniIchi [12k\]: What level is mogo?
Wraith [1d\]: So Catalin won 2-1?
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