(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Chinese]SZ[9]KM[7.50]TM[1800]
PW[MoGoBot1]PB[teytaud]WR[4k]DT[2008-03-23]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]RE[W+0.50]
;B[fd]BL[1763.417]C[paypay [11k\]: salut la personne qui jou
Zure [6d\]: I'll have a clone again :)
pasky [-\]: MoGo is white? Great!
Sparkster [3d\]: is this mogo still on the super computer?
]
;W[de]WL[1710.363]C[Gennosuke [4d\]: bao should play blind go
HFang [2k?\]: wow!
Koyoko [2k\]: lol
BodySlam [6k\]: sorry
HFang [2k?\]: 7.5 komi is like...half the board
BodySlam [6k\]: who's Bao Yun 7d??
Zure [6d\]: not really, 40,5 is half
RamSes [10k?\]: yes but beginning is such an advantage
]
;B[ff]BL[1729.105]C[Modoc [9k\]: yea 7.5 is not right
Sampi [3k\]: 7.5 komi is the komi Go Seigen and Kitani Minoru thought was fair
Zure [6d\]: 7,5 is right
aasdf: bao yun = unknownplr
RamSes [10k?\]: 7.5 IS right
Violence [?\]: 7.5 is correct
Modoc [9k\]: for a 9x9
pasky [-\]: Hmm, I will load this in my mogo in parallel again :)
Pol28k: 7.5 is correct
dragonfist [4k\]: 7,5 to much:S
BodySlam [6k\]: mmm
Thoravatar [2d\]: this is area scoring
Gennosuke [4d\]: 7.5 is correct for 19x19 imo
zawung: e3
RamSes [10k?\]: 7.5 is definetly correct
Gennosuke [4d\]: 9x9 is too much
Thoravatar [2d\]: do not confuse with territory scoring
BodySlam [6k\]: i'm confusing
RamSes [10k?\]: for 9*9
Modoc [9k\]: I thouth for a 9x9 it was 2.5 or 3.5
dragonfist [4k\]: still to much:S
Modoc [9k\]: ooooooooo will
Zure [6d\]: seems they are not going to moderate the chat, so i think clone is useless
RamSes [10k?\]: on the contrary
andy8452 [6k\]: 7.5 may be right in dan games on 9x9 first turn big advantage
Adaron [19k\]: why is the computer so slow
Modoc [9k\]: I was supriced it was a 9x9 game
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;W[eg]WL[1640.313]C[shy [-\]: modoc, the handicap steps are usually 2.5
qwazidan [4k?\]: the value of komi is the value of the first stone relative to the corner ... not the size of the board
RamSes [10k?\]: the more little the goban the more komi you need
tralala008 [5k\]: *waits for moderate chat :P *
ToStrong4u [-\]: who is teytaud?
Violence [?\]: unknownplr
IaGoChall [-\]: bao yun is teytaud
Godfather [3k\]: who's playing? pro?
aitkensam [5d?\]: on 3*3 9 komi is fair =)
pozdnychev: no, but pro level
RamSes [10k?\]: lol
Neverhood [4k\]: How mani supercomputers are there to compute all of the mogo's stuff?
Sparkster [3d\]: bao yun is playing, stronger than some pros
Zure [6d\]: yeah pro level
qwazidan [4k?\]: larger than 7x7 ... there is a corner and komi remains the same
DiGigot [8k\]: it's a snail powered computer
Godfather [3k\]: pro level should win в сухую =)
sms [3k\]: 3c 
aitkensam [5d?\]: D7 seems good
Strateg [4k\]: )
gacua [1k\]: is black bao yun 7d?
pozdnychev: yes
Adaron [19k\]: godfather supercomputer is strong on 9x9
DiGigot [8k\]: cornwall snail, not true, nopanic :)
Adaron [19k\]: but weak at 19x19
RamSes [10k?\]: Yesterday in Paris, a pro played against a program running on 200 computers
zawung: d7
calathar [4k\]: lol at mogo getting w :)
Gennosuke [4d\]: f3
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;B[ef]BL[1629.59]C[RamSes [10k?\]: the pro won the first, the cpu the 2nd
RamSes [10k?\]: and i wasnt there for the ast
pasky [-\]: mogo getting w has bigger chances to win than with b i think
ikami [1k\]: can mogo get strong ?
RamSes [10k?\]: the last
aitkensam [5d?\]: catalin won 2-1
Mjolner [4k\]: mogo seemed stronger with W yesterday
IaGoChall [-\]: this is the same computer today and yesterday
calathar [4k\]: Ramses: are you talking about Catalin?
GOfan [3d\]: strong 4k
Adaron [19k\]: ramsee was it 19x19 board and you telling me the computer beat a pro?
RamSes [10k?\]: hmm
gacua [1k\]: it's not important computer, it depends on the soft
RamSes [10k?\]: i dont remember his name
IaGoChall [-\]: soft is the same too
RamSes [10k?\]: 0*9
Adaron [19k\]: i dont think thats possible
RamSes [10k?\]: no a 9*9 of course
Tasselhof [5k\]: it won againts catalin 5p once out of three
Gennosuke [4d\]: noway a bot can beat a pro on 19x19
Adaron [19k\]: ok
calathar [4k\]: Adaron: no it was 9x9
Godfather [3k\]: mogo improves while cutting opponent's head off =)
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;W[df]WL[1565]C[Tasselhof [5k\]: on 9x9
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;B[dg]BL[1627.159]C[Adaron [19k\]: ok
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;W[cg]WL[1561.223]
;B[dh]BL[1624.926]C[RamSes [10k?\]: yy it was on 9*9
fauxturtle [15k\]: actually the amount of power in this case is extremely important
Tasselhof [5k\]: it blundered on 9H 19x19
draigcoch [28k\]: hello
Warfreak2 [3d\]: haha
ponnuki79 [4k\]: b ahead
gacua [1k\]: seems black is winning
calathar [4k\]: seems difficult for w
Warfreak2 [3d\]: this is the two stone corner squeeze isn't it?
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;W[ch]WL[1534.719]C[Modoc [9k\]: Will on a 9x9 I think a computer may have a advanage
whiteonly [2d\]: no lol
RamSes [10k?\]: b has not won yet
Warfreak2 [3d\]: this isn't...
RamSes [10k?\]: 7.5 komi
gacua [1k\]: it's unfair for a bot to take white against 6d china
Gennosuke [4d\]: huh
Pol28k: lol
Warfreak2 [3d\]: mogo could e2?
Kato [4k\]: komi?
calathar [4k\]: it's not mogo's turn?
Adaron [19k\]: 6d china is strong?  what are you talking about
Music86 [15k\]: 7.5
ikuy [2k\]: seems black is ahead, but w has 7.5 points for free now 
RamSes [10k?\]: 7.5 komi
Warfreak2 [3d\]: nice on calathar
Adaron [19k\]: china is strong nowadays aren't they?
Pol28k: Black should e2
Gennosuke [4d\]: mogo can give handi on 9x9
Zairex [13k\]: isnt it only move for black? :\\
calbonga [13k\]: sorry but I'm new, why is the game 30 minutes
Warfreak2 [3d\]: mogo should e2 instead of c2
calathar [4k\]: sorry, warfreak :)
Kato [4k\]: what is two stone corner sqeueee?
pasky [-\]: E2 C2 B2 B3 C1 C4 D1 C5 C3 D6 was my mogo's idea
Modoc [9k\]: 270 people watching a 9x9 game
tschan [3k\]: warfreak2, are you saying that white E2 can kill ? 
Pol28k: agreed....e2 is important
Warfreak2 [3d\]: e2 c2 b2 b3 c4 b1 a2 d1 a1 b2 a2 e1 
sms [3k\]: g2 & 7d black win
Warfreak2 [3d\]: that one is a textbook problem
pasky [-\]: with 64%
MvBredow [1d\]: imagine black is loosing
calbonga [13k\]: this must be a very smart comp
Aclase [10k\]: mmaaaròòòò
Aclase [10k\]: dog
pasky [-\]: then funny my mogo got it right but the supercomputer one not
Aclase [10k\]: ma non stanno zitti
gacua [1k\]: e2 kills black
Aclase [10k\]: un attimo
pasky [-\]: probably wants to play more peacefully
Warfreak2 [3d\]: pasky, locally best result doesn't mean best chance of winning game...
Modoc [9k\]: And remimber the players can see us talking
pasky [-\]: yeah
Pol28k: lol
pasky [-\]: yes, mogo can hear you, do not hint
RamSes [10k?\]: they can ??
sms [3k\]: 5k & low no opinion pls
Zairex [13k\]: 8D
Adaron [19k\]: that is just creepy
pasky [-\]: 3k & low no opinion pls
Javaness [-\]: pasky: stand in the corner
Adaron [19k\]: MOGO GO TO H9 ITS YOUR OWNLY HOPE!
pasky [-\]: javaness: sorry, sir, yes sir, sir :(
ikuy [2k\]: heh I am 2k
Thoravatar [2d\]: mogo missed that squeeze?
sms [3k\]: pasky , 5k no opinion
Neverhood [4k\]: what is black thinking about? To throw two stones away and gain sente?
Javaness [-\]: you too Adaron
MrShintou [-\]: can i stand in the corner.
Javaness [-\]: no
MvBredow [1d\]: ?
krocionog [4k\]: flog them xD
GrandYan [-\]: [-\] and similar, no opinion please.
andy8452 [6k\]: would it be true to say that go bots do not improve as much compared to the extra time they take to compute when on a more powerfull system??
TheClam [6k?\]: lol @ Java's Boldness power
Modoc [9k\]: Yes the day a 7d takes advice for a 9k you know he is in a bad place.
Thoravatar [2d\]: was this an anti-computer trick or is d2 reasonable?
MvBredow [1d\]: what is wrong with Aaron and parsky?
zawung: e2
Sparkster [3d\]: i wouldnt drop that 2 stones, very big
sms [3k\]: g2 & 7d black wins
Kato [4k\]: how strong i mogo?
ikuy [2k\]: lol why g2?
Pol28k: I am enjoying this....don't get to see high lvl dans often...what a treat
mabuni [1k\]: why so slow??
zawung: later g3 still
IlOI0lO0I0 [-\]: go bots still improve much with more and more power
andy8452 [6k\]: drop them and play d7 maybe
pasky [-\]: andy8452: that depends a lot on the algorithm, UCT (mogo's algorithm) is highly paralellizable and can make very good use of extra time... c.f. with e.g. gnugo where the effect isn't nearly so large
RamSes [10k?\]: the caclulus steps are in log of time
IlOI0lO0I0 [-\]: problem is more parallelization
Sparkster [3d\]: if b doesnt e2 he will lose c1 yose too.. too much
TheClam [6k?\]: *****waits for java to put in moderated chat*****
DiGigot [8k\]: are there learning algorithms ?
Firzen [-\]: well the time it takes to compute raises exponentially to the depth u r computing in
andy8452 [6k\]: how strong is teytaud
RamSes [10k?\]: of course learning algo exist
gacua [1k\]: In facts, with enough patterns, tesuji, joseki, and a high AI in powerful system, a go bot is at pro strength
MvBredow [1d\]: exponentially? sure? not mor?
MvBredow [1d\]: more?
pasky [-\]: digigot: research has not shown much success there so far, but some of the strong programs match against patterns learned from master games
ikuy [2k\]: how much has b time?
go11x11go: the time stopped!!!
DiGigot [8k\]: exists, I know. Is used , i don't
RamSes [10k?\]: dont think
pasky [-\]: or was it selfplay? I'm not sure...
sms [3k\]: whn b e2, w go to 6h game over then
mabuni [1k\]: is bboring
Zhab [6k?\]: well if the player can really see comment it should be moderated chat
TheClam [6k?\]: id love to see the code for a go bot, what program are they designed in?
TheClam [6k?\]: C?
Sparkster [3d\]: gnu go is C
Firzen [-\]: The time a Go problem comes up with a move equal to the ear redening move from shusaku I'll take it as intelligent :d
IaGoChall [-\]: the player doesn't see anything
go11x11go: why is the time not going???
HFang [2k?\]: mogo bot is only 4k?
omer [9k\]: gnu go is open source too
Zharf [8k\]: it's a demo game
Modoc [9k\]: IlOI0lO0I0 I do not think the speed of the computer would matter outside of how long it takes it to do the work. But remimber in a game like this two computers can have the same moves played agenst them and they reply with diffrent moves
Zharf [8k\]: that's why time doesn't advance
ponnuki79 [4k\]: maybe someone escaped??
sophie [14k\]: How do you find out the time limits / handicap / komi  / rules for a game you are watching?
MvBredow [1d\]: it's a very primitive quantum-computer working at the classicla limit
RamSes [10k?\]: options => rules
playmepunk [1k\]: IaGoChall:  You say the player doesnt see anything, like any move?  or anything we say
zawung: brut force can beat us son
gacua [1k\]: if black e7, what will happen next?
pasky [-\]: that's good question since Bao Yun is famous at blindgo ;)
kurwenal56: what is going on, why does black not move?
MvBredow [1d\]: brute force? no
sophie [14k\]: That works, Thanks
johndeep: who are the players?
johndeep: w mogo
johndeep: b=?
gacua [1k\]: white is a software, b is unknownplr
MvBredow [1d\]: brute force: the amarican way of playing
Gennosuke [4d\]: bao yun
Sparkster [3d\]: black is reading the whole game probably, if someone can, thats bao
Sparkster [3d\]: xD
Baduk4you [5d\]: maybe he is playing blind and lost his way^^
gacua [1k\]: black is unknownplr 9d on KGS
playmepunk [1k\]: sparkster, so is white
johndeep: what is the rank of bao yun?
Gennosuke [4d\]: b is playing blind go, he forgot how the board looks
MrShintou [-\]: =D
zawung: just read som random not all moves
HamatoYosh [-\]: this is super mogo still?
Warfreak2 [3d\]: b is reading endgame
Music86 [15k\]: mogo wins by 0.5 moku
pasky [-\]: yes, still super mogo
Zure [6d\]: w disconnected?
gacua [1k\]: Bao Yun used to playing blind go on 19*19. It's hard for him to play on 9*9 now :))
IaGoChall [-\]: bao is thinking
MvBredow [1d\]: right endgame starts at the first move (for a pro)
ponnuki79 [4k\]: mogo is an escaper!
Zure [6d\]: oh, it's bao's turn lol
zawung: w reading newspaper
TheClam [6k?\]: lol
icare666 [19k?\]: is the unknowplr disconnected ??
pozdnychev: bao yun is chinese 6d, one of the best amateur in the world, and the only one who can play simultaneous blind games
send [7d\]: what was the result yesterday 
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;B[eh]BL[1116.332]C[send [7d\]: mogo vs taranu
Music86 [15k\]: was wiating for that move
pasky [-\]: 2-1 for taranu
Baduk4you [5d\]: 1:2
MvBredow [1d\]: game over - black has read it all out. let's go, folks
johndeep: bao yun = 7dan pro?
Jeromin [11k\]: hi there, jut got in. who's teytaud?
aitkensam [5d?\]: white won 3/3
Zure [6d\]: simultaneously blind games is nice
wanchan [1d\]: w won in every game yesterday
Gennosuke [4d\]: lol
Zure [6d\]: that's my goal too :)
Warfreak2 [3d\]: bao yun is a 6d chinese amateur
pasky [-\]: my mogo likes e7 with 60% win probability
Javaness [-\]: former 2dan pro i heard
johndeep: ok thx
pasky [-\]: what move would you make?
pozdnychev: zure good luck :)
Warfreak2 [3d\]: i don't know where "bao yun 7d" came from
gacua [1k\]: moyobot wins Taranu 5p?
Javaness [-\]: but is he really 6dan ama?
gacua [1k\]: he is
Zure [6d\]: thanks pozdnychev?
Music86 [15k\]: white D7
Warfreak2 [3d\]: yes, java, i've met him
Zure [6d\]: -?
send [7d\]: are there some sgf's of the games from yesterday ?
Firzen [-\]: wf from the announcement
Zure [6d\]: who is former 2p?
gacua [1k\]: Bao Yun is 6d china. He's not 7d
Warfreak2 [3d\]: yes, firzen, i don't know where java got 7d from
Music86 [15k\]: or maybe E5
Modoc [9k\]: I like the fact there is 30 min time
pasky [-\]: send:check IaGoChall's info
Zure [6d\]: javaness: who's former 2p?
wanchan [1d\]: the sgf are on iagochall game list
Baobei [-\]: send:just checkiagochall info mybe
Violence [?\]: European 7d
Firzen [-\]: if we knew where java got things from we could possibly timetravel, or worse
Sparkster [3d\]: bao has egf rating?
gacua [1k\]: Is there any "former 2p"? ;))
pasky [-\]: anyone else but me and a fellow 15k is interested in commenting on the actual game? hello?
Zure [6d\]: i know one former 4p personally :)
calathar [4k\]: gacua: probably some 3ps :)
Warfreak2 [3d\]: many, gacua, they go on to be 3p, 4p, etc...
Music86 [15k\]: hey dont call me some 15k :P
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;W[ec]WL[1433.63]C[Music86 [15k\]: i got a name u know ^^,
pasky [-\]: I said "fellow 15k" :)
gacua [1k\]: I was a former 2k
GrandYan [-\]: He called you a fellow 15k
Music86 [15k\]: oh sorry =P
Music86 [15k\]: my bad
Zairex [13k\]: w d1? :\\
Baobei [-\]: i'm a former [-\]
ponnuki79 [4k\]: i am former 3k
GrandYan [-\]: Blasphemy.
Music86 [15k\]: well i guess E7 is better
zawung: g3 aji remain
aitkensam [5d?\]: komi seems big now. maybe b needs to invade
Zure [6d\]: ok, sauna -->
Zure [6d\]: see you
Vade [6k\]: b can't really f7 ;/ 
Music86 [15k\]: D6!
johndeep: if mogo plays e7 this means it knows it is going to win in yose
Violence [?\]: Can black C7?
Firzen [-\]: I guess some crazy E8 thing or smth
Godfather [3k\]: where's action?
gacua [1k\]: c7 too deep
Vade [6k\]: white played c2 because this sequence will win
Violence [?\]: I dunno, I dunno how to kill it
wanchan [1d\]: hard to see a better spot to invade than c7
Sparkster [3d\]: id love to see the insides of baos mind now
go11x11go: d6!
smogogo [6k\]: e8?
gacua [1k\]: this is 9*9, move like c7 can be killed
Sparkster [3d\]: +how far will be he reading
pasky [-\]: E7 F7 F8 C6 E6 C8 B5 C5 B6 B7 is the sequence my mogo expects, the winning probability is 60% right now; E7 F7 E8 F8 D6 were the moves it was considering
Vade [6k\]: f7 loses
Warfreak2 [3d\]: gacua, doesn't matter that it's 9x9
rytuyiuo [6d\]: b will win by 1.5
nd4ever [6k\]: c6?
rytuyiuo [6d\]: black will win by 1.5
Warfreak2 [3d\]: in fact 9x9 makes it easier for b to live as the next corner is nearer
Warfreak2 [3d\]: and corners are easy to live in
Thoravatar [2d\]: 1.5? really
pasky [-\]: b can never win on points, mogo would try something crazy and resign rather than lose on points
NemoEimi [5k\]: this is yet another mogo game in paris?
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;B[cc]BL[978.299]C[Violence [?\]: I thought so.
Crescent [3k\]: heh
pasky [-\]: wow
Music86 [15k\]: ouch
Thoravatar [2d\]: (area scoring accounted for?)
Music86 [15k\]: =S
Godfather [3k\]: action!
Violence [?\]: Black can't play just regular endgame, he has to live
Vade [6k\]: yeh, that's what I thought
Violence [?\]: and knowing Bao Yun, he's probably already read this out pretty deeply
NemoEimi [5k\]: have any strong players commented on the level of mogo in the 19x19 game so far?
LordKevin [4k\]: game's about to get interesting
LordKevin [4k\]: :)
pasky [-\]: My Mogo wants to E6 now, with winning probability 57%
Music86 [15k\]: whit D6? 
GOfan [3d\]: oo testing the pc
tmax [8k\]: bao yun = teytaud?
IaGoChall [-\]: right
wanchan [1d\]: i don't like e6. can't w play f7 ?
tmax [8k\]: thx
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;W[ed]WL[1367.791]C[Violence [?\]: Mmm....
Crescent [3k\]: hah
Music86 [15k\]: haha
Violence [?\]: Now B5?
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;B[be]BL[970.671]C[pel [2k?\]: o.o
pasky [-\]: supermogo agrees :)
Violence [?\]: Sweet.
Sparkster [3d\]: lol pasky you already know what will happen
LordKevin [4k\]: nice
Music86 [15k\]: mogo comunications
rats [10k?\]: why plays f7, then black would cut
vdanjean: pasty: how many cores for mogo on this run ?
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;W[bf]WL[1351.05]C[ponnuki79 [4k\]: looks good for b to me
Saira [1k\]: I don't like E6
sum [5d\]: mogo strength in 19x19 h9 game was ca. 3k on average
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;B[ce]BL[965.522]C[Violence [?\]: C5 first?
Music86 [15k\]: =)
pasky [-\]: my mogo fancied f7 instead of b4
Violence [?\]: I am Bao Yun.
MapleLeaf [1d\]: whats bao yuan's rank?
kurikuri [9k\]: c6?
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;W[cf]WL[1328.13]C[aitkensam [5d?\]: sum - how do you work that out?
wanchan [1d\]: w more or less needs to kill ow
Violence [?\]: D8?
Zairex [13k\]: chinese 6d
sum [5d\]: my personal estimate
Zairex [13k\]: amateur
aitkensam [5d?\]: i see
Warfreak2 [3d\]: nah, w got komi
YukiJyagan [9k\]: c8 
Warfreak2 [3d\]: w can win without killing
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;B[db]BL[944.112]C[gacua [1k\]: Is Bao Yun living in Europe now?
pozdnychev: no
Sparkster [3d\]: how many chinese 7d are there?
Violence [?\]: Haha, sweeet
IaGoChall [-\]: fan hui is setting just near bao yun, they are talking
pasky [-\]: sum: that is very strange since mogo running on regular hardware is kgs 3k on 19x19
pozdnychev: bao yun live in beijin
Thoravatar [2d\]: sum is that on a local machine?
pozdnychev: lives*
pasky [-\]: my mogo wants to g3 now :-)
sum [5d\]: no on the superPC
pasky [-\]: the winning probability is 56%
gacua [1k\]: How come Bao Yun get 7d egf?
Gennosuke [4d\]: hard for w now
Thoravatar [2d\]: because i played mogo on my windows machine 9 times and won 5 (h9 of course)
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;W[eb]WL[1271.61]
;B[bb]BL[941.149]
;W[hd]WL[1269.445]C[Zhab [6k?\]: I tought 3k on kgs would be like 5 or 6k in real life ?
johndeep: who is representing mogo on the real board?
Violence [?\]: B8 is obvious
LordKevin [4k\]: ooooh
Music86 [15k\]: white will win with 0.5 moku is he wins
Violence [?\]: H6 is weird...
pozdnychev: gacua he should be 8d egf, at least :)
aitkensam [5d?\]: your mogo is weak pasky :-)
Neverhood [4k\]: woo that was fast
Vade [6k\]: wowsers
zawung: after this g3
pasky [-\]: aitkensam: yes :) but it agrees on h6
Music86 [15k\]: G7
ponnuki79 [4k\]: mogo missclick? =)
Warfreak2 [3d\]: mogo's strength should not be judged by its moves, or its results in handicap games
pozdnychev: h4
Vade [6k\]: this 9x9 got a bit difficult ._.
aitkensam [5d?\]: %?
gacua [1k\]: ericdai is 7d egf, and he beat bao yun 2 times
pasky [-\]: 64%
Warfreak2 [3d\]: only on its results in even games
Violence [?\]: I'm thinking of a move like H4
aitkensam [5d?\]: nice
Pol28k: wow 
Violence [?\]: or something safe like that
calathar [4k\]: pasky: i wonder if that's related to the speed with which it played it
Music86 [15k\]: G7 for black
pasky [-\]: H6 H5 G3 F5 G5 are the top moves
leger [2k\]: white looks ahead
Violence [?\]: Maybe G6?
Music86 [15k\]: G7 !
nd4ever [6k\]: g6
Thoravatar [2d\]: aggreed warfreak
pozdnychev: gacua look at the games, bao was very ahead, he just omit to play seriously in the end
MvBredow [1d\]: black ahead
GrandYan [-\]: Er... h8
Modoc [9k\]: wow I go away for 2 min and look at the changes its like the teytaud is playing me 
aitkensam [5d?\]: is it available for free d/l somehwere?
Pol28k: Agreed g7
pasky [-\]: calathar: it probably expected b8 and thus had h6 pre-read
HamatoYosh [-\]: c3 not alive yet, w must be careful
godaime [3k\]: C1 groop is not alive ?
pasky [-\]: aitkensam: yes, google it out
vk1 [2k\]: g5?
zawung: h3
axlui [15k\]: why r there somany obs?
Thoravatar [2d\]: i don't know many people in the 6-3k range who have tried that though
playmepunk [1k\]: c1 group is dead!
GrandYan [-\]: Why are you here, axlui?
playmepunk [1k\]: its not even on the board
go11x11go: e5
sms [3k\]: white lost
Sparkster [3d\]: id love to see mogo running on this : http://www.top500.org/system/8968
axlui [15k\]: shut up
MvBredow [1d\]: maybe we are watching history today
pasky [-\]: thoravatar: CzechBot plays many ranked 19x19 games per day on KGS
Neverhood [4k\]: pasky will you ask your mogo how should he move as Bao Yun?
sms [3k\]: game over
Neverhood [4k\]: And we'll comape -)
gacua [1k\]: g7 g5 f5 g3 f3 g2 and?
sms [3k\]: black win
pasky [-\]: neverhood: sure
GrandYan [-\]: Sigh. 
Music86 [15k\]: G7 i sad milion times:P
MapleLeaf [1d\]: h7 
pasky [-\]: mogo would g5 as black, with 36% probability of win
sms [3k\]: g7 was ok
calathar [4k\]: MvBredow: how's that? computer has beat pro on 9x9 before :)
YukiJyagan [9k\]: h7 tsuke hard
playmepunk [1k\]: yes and we heard you a million times too. stops aying it
Thoravatar [2d\]: yeah sure, the kgs rank is known, Mogo can maintain up two 2k KGS
MvBredow [1d\]: usually, I consider 9x9 games as boring, but this one is not
sum [5d\]: mogo superPC is stronger than free mogo on 19x19: it avoided some stupid tactics like toothpaste
sms [3k\]: i take the winner here !!
IaGoChall [-\]: fan hui said : H6 is interesting
Lula [5k\]: b g7 white f5
Neverhood [4k\]: so it seems your mogo is cheering for supermogo -)))
gacua [1k\]: I wonder from which database white plays h6
pasky [-\]: G5 G6 H4 G7 H5 are the moves mogo likes best for b now
Thoravatar [2d\]: does it recognise seki?
pasky [-\]: but overally it thinks black is in trouble now
NemoEimi [5k\]: I agree that ideally, we should judge mogo by it's performance in even games, but my feeling is it is unlikely we are going to see supermogo play on kgs for a few days ;)
pasky [-\]: thoravatar: yes
johndeep: what is toothpaste tactic?
pasky [-\]: johndeep: look toothpaste up at SL
]
;B[ee]BL[728.226]C[Thoravatar [2d\]: i played mogo recently and got a seki, he made me pass for 80 moves before he resigned
gacua [1k\]: Oh :D
Music86 [15k\]: D 6 ftw
go11x11go: i waS RIGHT)
Sparkster [3d\]: i doubt inria is willing to spend so much computing power in mogo for too long ^^
Warfreak2 [3d\]: mogo recognises win and it recognises loss
Thoravatar [2d\]: that was rankbot001
tschan [3k\]: sparkster, it's weekend~ :) 
Thoravatar [2d\]: you can look up the game in my record if you like
pasky [-\]: my mogo likes g4 now with 66%
gacua [1k\]: Who codes mogobot?
]
;W[dd]WL[1210.856]C[pasky [-\]: gacua: team of french computer scientists
Sparkster [3d\]: sylvain gelly or something like that
tschan [3k\]: g4 is rather nasty...
royalty [4d\]: pasky, your mogo is weak
pozdnychev: some computer scientists in LRI (french research lab)
go11x11go: g7
Music86 [15k\]: now G4 or G7
pasky [-\]: royalty: I know :)
Gennosuke [4d\]: h4
MvBredow [1d\]: around G3....
pasky [-\]: royalty: it runs on much worse hardware
royalty [4d\]: my mogo is strnog though
eb5 [2d?\]: g7
Pol28k: d6??? there was no need for that?
tmax [8k\]: teytaud is only 13kyu
Crescent [3k\]: lol
Sparkster [3d\]: my mogo was strong , when i ran it on a q6600 at 3ghz 
pasky [-\]: (this mogo runs on my notebook, not on the same machine as czechbot)
XenoQ [5k\]: why Bao Yun = teytaud? isn't he unknownplr?
pozdnychev: he is unknownplr
IaGoChall [-\]: he is
yolka [7k\]: because he is unknown
pasky [-\]: disregard the nickname in game info :)
pozdnychev: but playing on teytaud's account
Sparkster [3d\]: pasky, what hard does czech run on?
pasky [-\]: sparkster: check its info
XenoQ [5k\]: teytaud = 21k 
Thoravatar [2d\]: this game favours black or not?
pasky [-\]: mogo thinks the game is favourable
Pol28k: yeh
gacua [1k\]: This is a demonstration game. It's not important of black or white nick
Violence [?\]: I like black
Pol28k: Blacks in the lead
Sparkster [3d\]: not bad, quite computing power there
aitkensam [5d?\]: baoyun must be close to time trouble?
icare666 [19k?\]: black is favour 
royalty [4d\]: dont forget the komi
Gennosuke [4d\]: g5 maybe
Archmage [2d\]: White wins :)
captnapalm [1k\]: how come time stops?
pasky [-\]: it's a demo
Pol28k: I dunno
MvBredow [1d\]: they play near a black hole
Sparkster [3d\]: because its a demo
leger [2k\]: Pol28k White leads, think of the komi
Sparkster [3d\]: being relayed
pershing [2d\]: i clone
Modoc [9k\]: he may have droped off line
iami [1k\]: .
IaGoChall [-\]: fan hui and bao are looking for the best  move together
johndeep: time stop: mogo's trick
pasky [-\]: oh
pasky [-\]: no fair!
Archmage [2d\]: White has only a one group
calathar [4k\]: they are double teaming mogo? :(
XenoQ [5k\]: wow, Fan Hui is there too
XenoQ [5k\]: :d
Music86 [15k\]: lol
pasky [-\]: let my mogo look at the best move with the supermogo then!
Crescent [3k\]: Who's Fan Hui?
gacua [1k\]: who codes mogobot?
GrandYan [-\]: Won't that like, hinder supermogo?
pershing [2d\]: mogo
YukiJyagan [9k\]: arf
go11x11go: the time changes every time after a move)
pasky [-\]: grandyan: no way :)
GrandYan [-\]: :)
Zhab [6k?\]: lol... well mogo do use 100 computer so why not 2 pros in team :P
Music86 [15k\]: G 7/4
calathar [4k\]: this is like seigen vs shuusai and his entire school now :)
Thoravatar [2d\]: are they really collaborating?
]
;B[gc]BL[513.154]C[pershing [2d\]: mogo for windows vista
Music86 [15k\]: DING!
IaGoChall [-\]: they are talking chinese
gacua [1k\]: It happens
GrandYan [-\]: Comparing SuperMoGo to Go Seigen is blasphemous. :P
go11x11go: I WAS RIGHT AGAIN!!!)))
Music86 [15k\]: haha translate please
Baobei [-\]: mogo+vista is a 45k combo
pasky [-\]: my mogo suggests g3 with 69% without much thinking
Crescent [3k\]: Does Bao Yun plan to humiliate mogo?
johndeep: fan hui+bao yun versus a bot !!
jhnc [1d\]: what account should I look for the records from paris2008 games?
aitkensam [5d?\]: seems like mogo is getting confident
Music86 [15k\]: now mogo plays G4 ?
pasky [-\]: jhnc: they are on igs only
ponnuki79 [4k\]: w not alive yet , right?
snowmen [3d\]: White is not alive
eb5 [2d?\]: g3, F2
IaGoChall [-\]: it's just for fun, nothing official here
gacua [1k\]: Paris 2008 doesn't start yhet
]
;W[ge]WL[1160.487]C[Sparkster [3d\]: have bao and fan hui played in the tournament?
Pol28k: mogo is in lal land
Music86 [15k\]: DING
Zairex [13k\]: ;o
Music86 [15k\]: again
gacua [1k\]: then g3
anapazapa [1d\]: whats lal?
Pol28k: lala
Music86 [15k\]: has to be G3 now
pershing [2d\]: poor w
jhnc [1d\]: I got email that said they would be relayed on KGS. wrong?
gacua [1k\]: black will f5, that's a must
Thoravatar [2d\]: white has to live on both sides still
IaGoChall [-\]: Sparkster : yes
Leguepard [7k\]: G4 
Analysis [3k\]: who is teyaud?
pasky [-\]: mogo seems to think b group is in more danger than w group
]
;B[fe]BL[475.585]C[Analysis [3k\]: teytaud*
Music86 [15k\]: :O
gacua [1k\]: then g3
DerGast: g3
gohunter [2k\]: g3
icare666 [19k?\]: teytaud is Bao yun 7d
Music86 [15k\]: yeah G3
pasky [-\]: my mogo again suggests g3
aitkensam [5d?\]: mogo might have a point pasky ;-)
yolka [7k\]: pasky how do you run mogo on linux ?
pershing [2d\]: komi?
MapleLeaf [1d\]: KILL the dragon!
]
;W[gg]WL[1138.089]C[pasky [-\]: this time 72.5%
Thoravatar [2d\]: G4?
Music86 [15k\]: BING F3
gacua [1k\]: g3 f3 . what happens next
batgirl [1d\]: maybe they kill the left w group
johndeep: w dies in one side
pasky [-\]: yolka: simply downloaded it :)
Pol28k: mogo might be going fot capture
yolka [7k\]: did this
ponnuki79 [4k\]: b also not alive
pasky [-\]: yolka: running inside of gogui right now
MapleLeaf [1d\]: g4 h4 g2 h2 f3 h3 f8 
yolka [7k\]: downloaded
yolka [7k\]: gogui = windows ?
Baobei [-\]: pasky: on synaptic?
MapleLeaf [1d\]: w kinda dead
gacua [1k\]: black is in danger
pozdnychev: white won
Sparkster [3d\]: not in synaptic of course..
Pol28k: yeh
jhnc [1d\]: I mean the mogo vs Catalin Taranu games, in case I wasn't clear
Sparkster [3d\]: download the tar gz
Thoravatar [2d\]: i agree with maple
]
;B[fg]BL[425.797]C[ww [2k\]: semeai ?
Thoravatar [2d\]: hmm
Music86 [15k\]: G4
pasky [-\]: baobei: no I use opensuse... but let's take this to the computer go room after the match
gacua [1k\]: I think it's overplay for c7
icare666 [19k?\]: g4
johndeep: g2 
Music86 [15k\]: or H4
pershing [2d\]: mogo maybe drink)
Sparkster [3d\]: g2
Thoravatar [2d\]: mayb kesy than..
Music86 [15k\]: nah G4
]
;W[gh]WL[1117.724]C[pasky [-\]: my mogo likes g2
MapleLeaf [1d\]: its already in the computer go room
pasky [-\]: \\o/
Sparkster [3d\]: g2 only move
smogogo [6k\]: is c7 ylive for sure?
Thoravatar [2d\]: but g2 is too nice
GrandYan [-\]: Wouldn't it be great if MoGo wins? Catalin would be able to so gloat over the two defeated humans here. :P
smogogo [6k\]: *alive?
]
;B[fh]BL[409.735]C[gacua [1k\]: h7
pasky [-\]: grandyan: he lost with b too :)
Sparkster [3d\]: mogo is a demon as w
pasky [-\]: mogo is strong with w
wanchan [1d\]: looking really bad for b...
Music86 [15k\]: H7
royalty [4d\]: who else played mogo?
]
;W[gb]WL[1099.147]C[pasky [-\]: guo juan
gacua [1k\]: H7: the only move
calathar [4k\]: i played mogo :)
pasky [-\]: but not supermogo
gacua [1k\]: Oh oh oh 
Music86 [15k\]: =O
Sparkster [3d\]: bao looks in trouble
GrandYan [-\]: My bad, pasky. :P
tschan [3k\]: black in a pinch
HamatoYosh [-\]: guo juan lost to normal mogo?
Music86 [15k\]: hmm i think black is loseing now
pasky [-\]: my mogo agrees on g8, with 74.7%
rats [10k?\]: blacks looking stuffed
ponnuki79 [4k\]: w wins
gacua [1k\]: h7 is very simple to play
]
;B[hb]BL[386.484]C[invivo [3k\]: yes, guo juan lost
Music86 [15k\]: F7
playmepunk [1k\]: i thought she won like 7-3
Thoravatar [2d\]: still i don't understand why black did not try to get g2, it seems very important
GrandYan [-\]: gacua, but with h7, can the other White group live?
macisajt [7d\]: i hate computer
calathar [4k\]: she took w with no komi though
gacua [1k\]: thanks to g8, now black seems alive
zawung: f7
MatchFree [-\]: h7 would kill white
tschan [3k\]: white h7 next  ?
johndeep: lol macisajt
Music86 [15k\]: F7
wanchan [1d\]: h7 doesn't work
pasky [-\]: my mogo suggests h7 71%
gacua [1k\]: h7 g6 
Zhab [6k?\]: I wonder where that 23k who said he could own mogo yesterday is today :P
NemoEimi [5k\]: h7 looks good, no?
aitkensam [5d?\]: oo the % went down 0_o
go11x11go: w f7
wanchan [1d\]: can't b live if h7 ?
Music86 [15k\]: probably dead
Violence [?\]: H7, white will lose
Pol28k: yeh
fauxturtle [15k\]: the1?
Music86 [15k\]: F7
Lula [5k\]: f7 better
MvBredow [1d\]: we are watching history, folks
pasky [-\]: yes, % kept going down during reading
Pol28k: f8
pasky [-\]: mogo not so happy
]
;W[da]WL[1017.788]C[tschan [3k\]: woot
YukiJyagan [9k\]: lol
Music86 [15k\]: OI!
calathar [4k\]: MvBredow, again, how is that?
ponnuki79 [4k\]: oh
Thoravatar [2d\]: ?
Thoravatar [2d\]: what's going on?
Gennosuke [4d\]: mogo wants to ko?
]
;B[ca]BL[369.507]C[sum [5d\]: whole board exchange?
pasky [-\]: good, supermogo came up wiht something better
Music86 [15k\]: F8?
IaGoChall [-\]: both players are laughing
Music86 [15k\]: by black
Koyoko [2k\]: lol
Music86 [15k\]: w00t?
HamatoYosh [-\]: poor mogo :(
icare666 [19k?\]: favour black ^^
pasky [-\]: iagochall: you mean mogo too? ;)
gacua [1k\]: What happens?
Sparkster [3d\]: mogo is laughting?
Crescent [3k\]: lol
Sparkster [3d\]: can that happen?
Music86 [15k\]: haha
mexican5d [3d\]: what is the significance of this game?
Violence [?\]: Fan Hui and Bao Yun
GrandYan [-\]: IaGoChall, do you mean Fan and Bao or Bao and MoGo?
calathar [4k\]: haha
wanchan [1d\]: hmm but komi is too big...
]
;W[ea]WL[994.63]C[Music86 [15k\]: AHAHHAahahahahaHAHAHA
lethern [-\]: both black players..
IaGoChall [-\]: hé hé :)
Music86 [15k\]: F 8
MvBredow [1d\]: the significance is awesome
pasky [-\]: my mogo does not like this
Warfreak2 [3d\]: 7.5 komi is appropriate
Pol28k: f8
Thoravatar [2d\]: ??
tschan [3k\]: MOGO CRUSH LAUGHING HUMAN. 
tmax [8k\]: white f7 kills surely
Sparkster [3d\]: mogo is opening and closing the cd rom slot like crazy
daizo [7k\]: g6 
gacua [1k\]: c9 is alive
smogogo [6k\]: if all the group live white is winning?
MapleLeaf [1d\]: wow
MapleLeaf [1d\]: sente
Gennosuke [4d\]: h7 
GrandYan [-\]: Which CD rom slow, Sparkster? :)
Jeromin [11k\]: is this rengo or are they consulting each other?
GrandYan [-\]: There are 200...
Vade [6k\]: all of them GY
Sparkster [3d\]: all of them
MvBredow [1d\]: HAL 9000
pasky [-\]: jeromin: it's informal match
Sparkster [3d\]: scary isnt it
GrandYan [-\]: ...Whoa.
GrandYan [-\]: Yeah
Koyoko [2k\]: man bao yun might be in trouble
]
;B[ga]BL[310.143]C[Music86 [15k\]: yeah
Warfreak2 [3d\]: b's group doesn't even necessarily live
Jeromin [11k\]: what happened to the 19x19 game?
Music86 [15k\]: i was asbout to say G9
Violence [?\]: Yeah, I don't think white can get even a ko in top left
pasky [-\]: jeromin: catalin won
Thoravatar [2d\]: white dies
GrandYan [-\]: Must... kill...
YukiJyagan [9k\]: b6 
gacua [1k\]: h7 
Koyoko [2k\]: yea i think top left is alive
Jeromin [11k\]: thanks
MvBredow [1d\]: Futurama
YukiJyagan [9k\]: B6 !! 
pasky [-\]: my mogo wants b2, 69%
wanchan [1d\]: if it's seki, w could still win
Gennosuke [4d\]: haha
Thoravatar [2d\]: catalin played mogo on 19x19????
pasky [-\]: considered b6 before but then changed its mind
pozdnychev: with 9 stones
Shtorm [3k\]: f7
GrandYan [-\]: With 9 handicaps, yes.
playmepunk [1k\]: at 9 stones earlier today
aitkensam [5d?\]: B2? sounds like it wants to win 0.5
wanchan [1d\]: f8 pls
YukiJyagan [9k\]: B6
gacua [1k\]: H7 first
Thoravatar [2d\]: nonsense
Warfreak2 [3d\]: can't judge mogo strength in handicap games
rats [10k?\]: f7
YukiJyagan [9k\]: b6
Music86 [15k\]: typical of mogo to sin with 0.5
Thoravatar [2d\]: no sense in playing mogo on 19x19
daizo [7k\]: в чем прикол то?
GrandYan [-\]: But Catalin did, anyway.
gacua [1k\]: h7 f8 a2 
]
;W[dc]WL[912.051]C[Violence [?\]: Haha
YukiJyagan [9k\]: and b6 
sum [5d\]: g4
Gennosuke [4d\]: w alive
Thoravatar [2d\]: i can win from mogo on 19x19 with h9, even on the supercomputer
lethern [-\]: hunter
Violence [?\]: how good is Mogo's life and death ability?
pasky [-\]: feels like supermogo is reading much further
Sparkster [3d\]: thoravatar
Thoravatar [2d\]: (i'd like to try that ;))
Sparkster [3d\]: not from supermogo
GrandYan [-\]: Black can live kinda easily here...
playmepunk [1k\]: look at the game thor
pasky [-\]: than my mogo
Baobei [-\]: about 3.5 violence
Music86 [15k\]: C6
johndeep: who won catalin mogo game on 19x19 and with howmany handicaps ?
Pol28k: There is no computer in the world today that can beat pro players on 19x19 
Thoravatar [2d\]: i wonder
macisajt [7d\]: 9x9 i dont call go
GrandYan [-\]: Catalin, 9 handicaps
aitkensam [5d?\]: catalin won by r 9 handi
Goreon [1k\]: ko
zawung: a7 bad aji
]
;B[cb]BL[265.824]C[Sparkster [3d\]: there was no handi in the game i saw
YukiJyagan [9k\]: b6
wanchan [1d\]: pol28k: just yesterday catalin lost 1 game to mogo
pasky [-\]: macisajt: but it's nice training ground for 19x19 for the programs
YukiJyagan [9k\]: b6
YukiJyagan [9k\]: b6
aitkensam [5d?\]: i agree maci, pro level on 19*19 doesn not necessarily mean the same on 9*9
GrandYan [-\]: Sparkster, the 19x19 game, not the 9x9
]
;W[ac]WL[892.077]C[Music86 [15k\]: :O
Leguepard [7k\]: oO
johndeep: wow
wanchan [1d\]: pol, oh you said 19x19... lol
Sparkster [3d\]: the game earlier, 19x19
pasky [-\]: heh
MapleLeaf [1d\]: :(
Zhab [6k?\]: yesterday mogo lost as black and won as white
GrandYan [-\]: Oh, there were 9.
smogogo [6k\]: seki?
Koyoko [2k\]: this doesn't work
YukiJyagan [9k\]: ahha better b6   king 
Koyoko [2k\]: b6?
MvBredow [1d\]: how does black feel right now?
Gennosuke [4d\]: b6
johndeep: that is called BRUTE FORCE
Goreon [1k\]: ko at least
Violence [?\]: just b6 works.
icare666 [19k?\]: c6
pasky [-\]: my mogo prefers a5
macisajt [7d\]: b is crushed
pasky [-\]: to a7
Music86 [15k\]: A8
macisajt [7d\]: in this game
Koyoko [2k\]: c6 and a5 icare
royalty [4d\]: alive..
GrandYan [-\]: Go MoGo.
GrandYan [-\]: Kill the scheming humans
MapleLeaf [1d\]: go ko mogo
gacua [1k\]: This bot rocks
royalty [4d\]: atleast becouse surrounding white dies
IaGoChall [-\]: fan is making fun of bao yun , he wasn't agree with the last move
pasky [-\]: lol
smogogo [6k\]: if seki black has no points¨
gacua [1k\]: "Making fun"
johndeep: mouhahaha
isshoni [4k\]: in the catlin-mogo games yesterday, white always won
Violence [?\]: This is a ko, I think
icare666 [19k?\]: ok with you koyoko
Koyoko [2k\]: so fan is playing mogo's moves?
qwazidan [4k?\]: that 5-4 might be good
]
;B[bd]BL[184.571]C[Thoravatar [2d\]: if seki, white still dead
IaGoChall [-\]: sorry  about my bad english :)
Crescent [3k\]: Who's stronger.. Fan or Bao ? :P
pozdnychev: bao
isshoni [4k\]: do you remember if farid ben malek was white or black?
lethern [-\]: isshoni what're u taling about..
macisajt [7d\]: 7,5 sound much
Crescent [3k\]: k
zawung: a5
]
;W[ab]WL[869.32]C[EarthFirst [2k\]: A8
GrandYan [-\]: Crescent, if Black wins, Bao is stronger. If not, Fan is stronger. :P
coltrane [5k?\]: fan is 2p
smogogo [6k\]: a8
Music86 [15k\]: =(
Pol28k: oops
Baobei [-\]: fan is stronger
Crescent [3k\]: lol
Music86 [15k\]: should have played a8 lasdt move
Pol28k: yeh
pasky [-\]: mogo agrees on a8 but probability dropped to 66%
pasky [-\]: +my mogo
Zhab [6k?\]: they are both strong :P
Koyoko [2k\]: ko?
ToWeak [3k\]: w alive
ToWeak [3k\]: withot ko
Music86 [15k\]: seki
]
;B[aa]BL[155.262]C[gacua [1k\]: no seki
ToWeak [3k\]: just alive
Violence [?\]: just ko
Koyoko [2k\]: it's ko?
Pol28k: alive
aitkensam [5d?\]: bao gonna struggle on time :-)
ToWeak [3k\]: b didnt need ko
Music86 [15k\]: where are the ko threats ^^,
ToWeak [3k\]: to kill
GrandYan [-\]: Alive. Seki. Ko.
Shtorm [3k\]: big 
pasky [-\]: my mogo wants a5 now
Koyoko [2k\]: ko, can't do b7
moetero [1k\]: bent four in the corner..
ToWeak [3k\]: i dont think its ko.
pasky [-\]: with as much as 82%!
ToWeak [3k\]: or seki.
YukiJyagan [9k\]: alivze
johndeep: kooo
ToWeak [3k\]: alive.
Kgs20k [8k\]: pasky how good is ur comp?
YukiJyagan [9k\]: alive
batgirl [1d\]: w needs a4 in sente
GrandYan [-\]: It's obviously a triple ko in this corner.
Violence [?\]: Black has more ko threats, I think
Warfreak2 [3d\]: w a4 is sente for life
johndeep: c6 b7 b9 
johndeep: ko
pasky [-\]: kgs20k: it's weak, 1.6GHz intel singlecore
Vade [6k\]: white and black die in seki with triple ko
ToWeak [3k\]: B DONT NEED KO!
]
;W[bh]WL[817.568]C[pasky [-\]: but it can give good insight to what mogo considers i hope
ToWeak [3k\]: he can alive withot ko
aitkensam [5d?\]: oo
Violence [?\]: Haha
Pol28k: lol
Leguepard [7k\]: oO
rats [10k?\]: lol
YukiJyagan [9k\]: a3
johndeep: what??
Thoravatar [2d\]: hmm
aitkensam [5d?\]: time for the 0.5 win
Violence [?\]: Black at A6 now, I think.
sum [5d\]: big win
Koyoko [2k\]: oh wait b7
Jeromin [11k\]: compared to a network of supercomputers, anything is weak
Koyoko [2k\]: ahah
Pol28k: what is mogo thinking
Thoravatar [2d\]: ko threat without playing the ko?
Zhab [6k?\]: well only way to get a rank on kgs is with 19x19 games so....
gacua [1k\]: Time for h7
ToWeak [3k\]: w-b9 b -b7
Fredda [8d?\]: if A6 B is behind no?
GrandYan [-\]: Er, can't White like, die there?
Neverhood [4k\]: pwned
pasky [-\]: hmm, my mogo did not think about b2 much
GOfan [3d\]: pc just said i won man?
Music86 [15k\]: A6
ToWeak [3k\]: b alive
ToWeak [3k\]: alive
Violence [?\]: A6 is sente, right?
ToWeak [3k\]: he dot need..
ToWeak [3k\]: dont*
YukiJyagan [9k\]: yes b alive
GrandYan [-\]: Oh, or not. A7 is sneaky.
YukiJyagan [9k\]: see
MvBredow [1d\]: is there a problem with the voltage? mogo seems irritated?
Crescent [3k\]: lol
playmepunk [1k\]: maybe its trying to remove ko threats?
]
;B[hh]BL[107.369]C[icare666 [19k?\]: lol
pozdnychev: oooooh
Warfreak2 [3d\]: who knows what it is doing
Thoravatar [2d\]: hmm
ToWeak [3k\]: i cant get it..
ToWeak [3k\]: 1k dont see it not ko?
gacua [1k\]: white dies
Zhab [6k?\]: you get rank only with 19x19. So prehapse pasky's mogo is stronger than 20k on 9x9
ToWeak [3k\]: b alive there
GrandYan [-\]: Nooooo. Go Mogo
pasky [-\]: my mogo proposes h3 with 77%
ToWeak [3k\]: withot ko
pasky [-\]: still has no worries
Leguepard [7k\]: black has 1:47 sec time
GrandYan [-\]: Whoa, 77%... Nice leap
MvBredow [1d\]: I lost faith in mogo
ToWeak [3k\]: b9 b7
]
;W[gf]WL[777.388]C[Music86 [15k\]: G1
]
;B[gi]BL[102.979]C[Violence [?\]: only move.
johndeep: now w has to kill upper side
widowmaker [2d\]: who is teytaud ?
playmepunk [1k\]: pasky, your numbers are % chance its gonna play it, or % chance it thinks it will win
tschan [3k\]: the supercomputers must be dells
pasky [-\]: playmepunk: win chance
Pol28k: lol
pozdnychev: teytaud is bao yun chinese 6d / unknownplr kgs 9d
Warfreak2 [3d\]: pentium floating point precision
pasky [-\]: h1 75%
gacua [1k\]: I think this game black wins
]
;W[hi]WL[745.426]C[widowmaker [2d\]: thanks pozdny
Pol28k: yeh
ToWeak [3k\]: yeah.
fauxturtle [15k\]: but this mogo can see further
]
;B[ii]BL[99.431]C[Violence [?\]: haha, H1
pasky [-\]: of course
Vade [6k\]: dell is a...
Archmage [2d\]: White for the win :)
gacua [1k\]: pasky knows the next move
Music86 [15k\]: D1
CBlue [1k?\]: H7 ?
GrandYan [-\]: Will MoGo feed on our brainpower if we put our heads next to the CPU?
Gennosuke [4d\]: b9
gacua [1k\]: Now g3 is dead
Neverhood [4k\]: j3 &
pasky [-\]: my mogo hesitates between h3 and h7
Zure [6d\]: oh
]
;W[ae]WL[710.407]C[pasky [-\]: oh
Zure [6d\]: this game is still going?
Zure [6d\]: w00t
Violence [?\]: now for this ko?
Music86 [15k\]: yeah how was the sauna =P
ToWeak [3k\]: ha
GrandYan [-\]: Looks like a desperate attempt, honestly...
Zure [6d\]: lots of dead stones
ToWeak [3k\]: no ko!
wanchan [1d\]: w+T in a moment
ToWeak [3k\]: you dont get it..?
GOfan [3d\]: b lost on time
ToWeak [3k\]: no ko.
Pol28k: mogo doesn't know how to resign looks like
rats [10k?\]: a6 good
]
;B[bc]BL[71.21]C[Music86 [15k\]: A6
pasky [-\]: hmm, interesting, my mogo still looks happy
Music86 [15k\]: lol
Sampi [3k\]: ko?
tschan [3k\]: ko
Warfreak2 [3d\]: direct ko
rats [10k?\]: a5 good for mogo
gacua [1k\]: b9
Thoravatar [2d\]: there's ko allright
Gennosuke [4d\]: wheres b threats/.
YukiJyagan [9k\]: alicve
pasky [-\]: b9 89% !!!
CBlue [1k?\]: lol
heegaard [5k\]: w+
GrandYan [-\]: Wow
gacua [1k\]: only move
ripitaf: W has ko threats
Violence [?\]: this is a ko
]
;W[ba]WL[686.909]C[GrandYan [-\]: 89%..
Music86 [15k\]: C1
Hieh [3k\]: again
]
;B[fb]BL[65.937]C[pasky [-\]: sorry, that was 92%
GrandYan [-\]: Long live MoGo
Hieh [3k\]: what game is this now
piernikowy [1d?\]: good for b
dragonfist [4k\]: gg
gacua [1k\]: â
gacua [1k\]: a6
heegaard [5k\]: a6
Baobei [-\]: c6 
johndeep: so w wasted 2 ko threats at g3 and h1 ???
shino22 [17k\]: gg
GrandYan [-\]: Eh... Who wins, then?
Leguepard [7k\]: C6
Koyoko [2k\]: can b win?
pasky [-\]: a6 98%
pasky [-\]: seems over
Thoravatar [2d\]: white wins
heegaard [5k\]: w has enough?
Koyoko [2k\]: a6?
Music86 [15k\]: A6
smogogo [6k\]: a6
Warfreak2 [3d\]: d1
Zure [6d\]: oh, mogobot wins?
GrandYan [-\]: Doesn't seem like W has enough
Zhab [6k?\]: wow 98 %
]
;W[ad]WL[656.362]C[zawung: w loses h7
xhi [-\]: why did b b7 ???
tschan [3k\]: ...
Koyoko [2k\]: c1?
Violence [?\]: White + 2.5
Thoravatar [2d\]: 2.5
Thoravatar [2d\]: indeed
Baobei [-\]: w wins
]
;B[fc]BL[45.71]C[aitkensam [5d?\]: seems like w 0.5 even if b get every yose so no hope
GrandYan [-\]: Whoa
Thoravatar [2d\]: ?
Warfreak2 [3d\]: more like 0.5
GrandYan [-\]: Long live MoGo
widowmaker [2d\]: +time ?
Thoravatar [2d\]: now 3.5
Warfreak2 [3d\]: mogo always wins by 0.5
aitkensam [5d?\]: bigger than 0.5 if god yose
GrandYan [-\]: Eat that, scheming humans
Warfreak2 [3d\]: throw some points away
aitkensam [5d?\]: good*
pasky [-\]: c1 99% ^^
gacua [1k\]: d1
johndeep: now 0.5 move comes .....
Veda [4k?\]: 45 sec for b :/
Music86 [15k\]: i want c 1 for black and D1 for white
Zure [6d\]: w+2,5
GrandYan [-\]: A3?
johndeep: a1!!!!
tschan [3k\]: eh, c1 ?? 
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;W[ci]WL[627.827]C[Zure [6d\]: so will probably turn to 0,5
pasky [-\]: yah
]
;B[di]BL[43.099]C[Violence [?\]: C1?
pasky [-\]: c1 the best
tschan [3k\]: i don't understand c1 
Zure [6d\]: what's c1
Violence [?\]: That's a weird move.
pasky [-\]: it's enough
Warfreak2 [3d\]: it wins
Violence [?\]: Now only 1.5
pel [2k?\]: heh
tschan [3k\]: not d1 for white ? 
Gennosuke [4d\]: mogo wins
Music86 [15k\]: D 1 ? why not D 1 ?
gacua [1k\]: seems to me that most of the bots are the same
aitkensam [5d?\]: highest win% it might forget to reaspond when you atari :p
Warfreak2 [3d\]: c1 wins, music, so why not c1?
fauxturtle [15k\]: c1 keeps sente
Saira [1k\]: don't  forget A9 sente
Zure [6d\]: because mogo is going for 0,5
pasky [-\]: now f9
Ricky1 [8k\]: .5 point win
heegaard [5k\]: it always tries to win safely
pasky [-\]: and that is it
tschan [3k\]: ah, sente
leger [2k\]: Music86, this is a computer, it tries to win, not to win by too much
GrandYan [-\]: Someone tell Catalin about this humiliating human loss. :P
GrandYan [-\]: He can gloat now.
gacua [1k\]: it's no longer sente
leger [2k\]: Music86, mogo avoided trouble
pasky [-\]: grandyan: why? he lost as b too
heegaard [5k\]: pass
Baobei [-\]: catalin lost one too
YukiJyagan [9k\]: Time stops ? 
GrandYan [-\]: Just don't remind him about the loss as B.
pasky [-\]: hehe
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;W[cd]WL[577.696]C[widowmaker [2d\]: lol why keeping sente ? it's tha last move...
master117 [9k\]: ! TURN KO FIGHT ^^
aitkensam [5d?\]: haha
Warfreak2 [3d\]: :-D
Zure [6d\]: lol
]
;B[fa]BL[38.701]C[Gennosuke [4d\]: wha
Zhab [6k?\]: oh.....
GrandYan [-\]: 0.5 :)
MvBredow [1d\]: we are watching history !!!!
Elfwood [3k\]: :X
gacua [1k\]: ?
tschan [3k\]: ...
johndeep: mohahahha
DeepTuna [2k\]: rofl
icare666 [19k?\]: aaaaaaaaaaaaarg
Zure [6d\]: can he afford this one too?
Crescent [3k\]: lol
pasky [-\]: pom pom
ToStrong4u [-\]: KLOLOLLOL
Thoravatar [2d\]: 2.5 again
Pol28k: lol
Vade [6k\]: NO RISKS ME SMASH
Pol28k: omg
Zure [6d\]: oh btw
Zure [6d\]: hmm
MvBredow [1d\]: *whoopie*
Archmage [2d\]: White smart :)
wanchan [1d\]: w+0.5
ayman71 [19k\]: mogo wins
Violence [?\]: Now it's a .5 win
pasky [-\]: now time for random move
tschan [3k\]: how's them cdrom slots doing ? 
Violence [?\]: that's hilarious
gacua [1k\]: w+ 0.5
Graouleu [6k\]: who s teytaud?
Zure [6d\]: yeah 0,5 now
macisajt [7d\]: should add one more
Pol28k: .5
Elfwood [3k\]: ow, chinese rules >.>
Violence [?\]: Now white plays H3...
Music86 [15k\]: i told u for like an houra  a go
vk1 [2k\]: c8!
Music86 [15k\]: 0.5
Music86 [15k\]: win
Warfreak2 [3d\]: mogo always throws away points until it is only a 0.5 win
Pol28k: 0.5 win
Zhab [6k?\]: mogo always win by 0.5 :P
tschan [3k\]: does white know how to pass ? 
johndeep: mogo: Mission is to destroy human by 0.5!!
gacua [1k\]: are you sure?
GrandYan [-\]: MoGo is the best.
]
;W[ih]WL[529.69]C[GrandYan [-\]: Well, it's not.
tschan [3k\]: ...
Warfreak2 [3d\]: lol
Music86 [15k\]: haha
evenflow [-\]: hoho
GrandYan [-\]: But...
Archmage [2d\]: lol
Crescent [3k\]: even a bot has a sense of humor
pasky [-\]: tschan: yes, it will usually pass only fafter the opponent passes though
Zure [6d\]: wtf.................
]
;B[ig]BL[33.084]C[Music86 [15k\]: sick
ToStrong4u [-\]: omg it wants time win
Ijime [5k\]: lol?
Modoc [9k\]: remimber the 7.5 komi on a 9x9 
ayman71 [19k\]: lol
wanchan [1d\]: it's gonna time scum
Music86 [15k\]: hahahaha
gacua [1k\]: Will mogo try to win only by 0.5?
Music86 [15k\]: =P
Thoravatar [2d\]: game is over
Crescent [3k\]: mogo's trying to win by the time limit
GrandYan [-\]: MoGo is gloating.
Music86 [15k\]: pass pass ffs?
Warfreak2 [3d\]: 7.5 komi on 19x19, too
Vade [6k\]: yahoo tesuji \\o/
Zure [6d\]: please mogo, pass
icare666 [19k?\]: teytaud is a *****
johndeep: Mogo: I got excited...
Warfreak2 [3d\]: it is chinese rules
johndeep: sorry
ToStrong4u [-\]: mopgo rude
Thoravatar [2d\]: white does not pass untill black does
pasky [-\]: zure: it won't pass until the opponent
Archmage [2d\]: Mogo has read about time tesuji
Music86 [15k\]: haha
Music86 [15k\]: =P
gacua [1k\]: f1
MetallicaX [3d\]: 7.5 komi wow
Vistani [13k\]: the komi seems too big
johndeep: mogo needs to get coded some manners
GrandYan [-\]: White can jsut fill in his own territory, right?
Warfreak2 [3d\]: it is correct komi for chinese rules
Thoravatar [2d\]: 7.5 is normal
Music86 [15k\]: should be 7 :)
wanchan [1d\]: now it's gonna wait until time is over?
Music86 [15k\]: not 7.5
Baobei [-\]: the komi is normal
heegaard [5k\]: omg Mogo will lose
]
;W[ic]WL[486.468]C[Zure [6d\]: pasky: it will, after dames
Wolf84 [-\]: 7.5 komi unreasonable
Thoravatar [2d\]: for area scoring
tschan [3k\]: ..........
gacua [1k\]: F1 will be the only move
Archmage [2d\]: whaaat
Zure [6d\]: hmm
pasky [-\]: zure: yeah yeah
]
;B[hg]BL[26.102]C[Koyoko [2k\]: >.>
heegaard [5k\]: because of the pass thing
pasky [-\]: well, "dame"
Music86 [15k\]: so that he cant win on such gay behavioir
pasky [-\]: after the whole board is filled
dragonfist [4k\]: should be less on smaller board not hard to understand
pel [2k?\]: wtf?
Crescent [3k\]: Couldn't black ignore this and win?
tschan [3k\]: black's not resigning ? 
Koyoko [2k\]: if it plays another move bao will pass
Gennosuke [4d\]: chinese rules
heegaard [5k\]: b should resign
Thoravatar [2d\]: game is over
gacua [1k\]: It's chinese rule so white will play until black passes
Modoc [9k\]: will W may lose it yeat
Warfreak2 [3d\]: crescent, no, chinese rules
Thoravatar [2d\]: black should stop playing
wanchan [1d\]: in chinese counting prisoners don't matter
Pol28k: good game...itz over
Crescent [3k\]: oh
Zure [6d\]: oh right it'c chinese of course
gacua [1k\]: bao yun doesn't know this
pasky [-\]: he should
Zure [6d\]: it doesn't matter how many stones he plays on b's territory
]
;W[ca]WL[447.654]C[pel [2k?\]: ah..
johndeep: what would happen is b passed?
tschan [3k\]: .....
DeepTuna [2k\]: rofl
heegaard [5k\]: damn
Baobei [-\]: oO
]
;B[]BL[23.51]
;W[]WL[447.654]TW[aa][bb][cb][db][bc][cc][bd][be][ce][af][ag][bg][ah][ai][bi]TB[ha][ia][gb][ib][hc][ic][gd][hd][id][ge][he][ie][gf][hf][if][eg][gg][gh][ih][ei][fi][hi]C[pasky [-\]: ding ding
Strateg [4k\]: ))
Neverhood [4k\]: LOL
Zure [6d\]: score tool
daizo [7k\]: lol
Zure [6d\]: and.......
DeepTuna [2k\]: W's got some good yose
Zure [6d\]: 0,5!!!!!!
johndeep: 0.5
MatchFree [-\]: should be more on smaller boards.. first move has more impact
nachodude [7k\]: .5
wanchan [1d\]: epic
MapleLeaf [1d\]: wow
GrandYan [-\]: Wow.
ToStrong4u [-\]: 0,8
Leguepard [7k\]: lol
Music86 [15k\]: gat
Music86 [15k\]: gay
gacua [1k\]: human - bot : 2-2
Veda [4k?\]: wow
GrandYan [-\]: It really happened.
icare666 [19k?\]: who win?
pasky [-\]: mogo strong as w
Zure [6d\]: 3,1415926535
Javaness [-\]: aww rats
Zure [6d\]: w+
smogogo [6k\]: who win?
heegaard [5k\]: who is teytaud?
Zure [6d\]: :<
gacua [1k\]: so the score is now equivalent
qwazidan [4k?\]: the value of komi is the value of the first stone relative to the corner ... larger than 7x7 there is a corner ... which always remains the same size however large the board
Music86 [15k\]: 0.5
Music86 [15k\]: to white
Violence [?\]: The real winner in 9x9 is white.
MetallicaX [3d\]: its only 9x9
tschan [3k\]: 0.5
Vistani [13k\]: w - b : 4-0
wanchan [1d\]: teytaud = unknownplr, some said
pasky [-\]: maybe with 7.5 komi w wins with perfect play :)
Vistani [13k\]: komi is too big
Pol28k: MOGO wins by 0.5
Music86 [15k\]: should bee 7 pts komi
Thoravatar [2d\]: Zure you are wrong
gacua [1k\]: komi 7.5 is so much on 9*9
Music86 [15k\]: not 6.5
Warfreak2 [3d\]: don't be ridiculous, qwazi
Music86 [15k\]: not 7,.5
Music86 [15k\]: i mean
MvBredow [1d\]: I don't believe it
Zure [6d\]: am I wrong?
Zhab [6k?\]: yeah black mogo is significantly weaker than white mogo
tmax [8k\]: a chinese guy is using teytaud's account
Zure [6d\]: where?
qwazidan [4k?\]: i am not qwazi
Thoravatar [2d\]: 3.1415926538
Warfreak2 [3d\]: tengen is always the best move, not corner
GrandYan [-\]: Vistani, White played to win by 0.5. Doesn't matter here.
MvBredow [1d\]: can't believe it
tschan [3k\]: is this a one shot or 3 games in a row like yesterday ? 
tmax [8k\]: teytaud is a weak french player
Pol28k: escape
Baobei [-\]: no
Zure [6d\]: 1415926535897932384
pasky [-\]: we want another high dan to play
MetallicaX [3d\]: ?
Zure [6d\]: i am right
MvBredow [1d\]: mankind has lost again
Zure [6d\]: you are wrong :)
GrandYan [-\]: Zure, pie?
MvBredow [1d\]: we are doomed
MetallicaX [3d\]: computers are taking over the worls
Zure [6d\]: no one can beat my at pi
MetallicaX [3d\]: world*
gacua [1k\]: mogo rules on 9*9
Thoravatar [2d\]: oki ;)
MvBredow [1d\]: time for the Terminator
qwazidan [4k?\]: mogo's 5-4 seemed to work
Zure [6d\]: how many decimals you can memorize?
Thoravatar [2d\]: computers still suck, just don't play 9x9
MvBredow [1d\]: 1
MvBredow [1d\]: 2
Hagen0 [9k\]: hm
GrandYan [-\]: Er... I let my calculator do it for me.
MvBredow [1d\]: 3
Crescent [3k\]: Fan hui's prolly pointing his finger at Bao and laughing as we speak
GrandYan [-\]: I only know 3.... 3.
pasky [-\]: exactly :)
MvBredow [1d\]: ~3 or 4
Thoravatar [2d\]: maybe we should change the standard goban size to 21
MvBredow [1d\]: yes
MvBredow [1d\]: changes the balance too much
qwazidan [4k?\]: 19x19 maximizes complexity
ToStrong4u [-\]: lol the faster computers beat pros 19x19 the better 
tschan [3k\]: DA HUMANS ARE SCHEMING AGAIN. 
evenletter [10k\]: next time we r gonna say--computers still suck ..just dont play 13*13
StoneDown [8k\]: pi = 3 (roughly)
MvBredow [1d\]: per lay PI= 4
MvBredow [1d\]: law
MvBredow [1d\]: law says pi=4
GrandYan [-\]: Pi + infinity = Pi
MvBredow [1d\]: depends
sum [5d\]: German king declared that law
MvBredow [1d\]: amarican state sometime 18xy
sum [5d\]: also?
MvBredow [1d\]: yes
MvBredow [1d\]: germany was smartest country in the world until 1933....
sum [5d\]: except for some inflation
GrandYan [-\]: Then what happened? Einstein moved?
MvBredow [1d\]: Göttingen was THE center of mathematics in the world until 1933
MvBredow [1d\]: now, it's all gone
sum [5d\]: still has prof IQ average 170
GrandYan [-\]: Average 170??
sum [5d\]: y
MvBredow [1d\]: on what scale?
GrandYan [-\]: That's like...
sum [5d\]: only the professors
GrandYan [-\]: Er... What is that like?
GrandYan [-\]: Still, professors or not professors, that is extraordinarily hgih
sum [5d\]: its like 15 above mine
dragonfist [4k\]: xP
GrandYan [-\]: And like 50 above mine...
sum [5d\]: so when will bots teach us strategy?
GrandYan [-\]: When it stops using MC, maybe.
GrandYan [-\]: Or maybe it can brute force everything, but then we might need to redefine strategy.
sum [5d\]: MC + endgame database + nakase database + local search should do it
GrandYan [-\]: Its strategy might be abstract, though
GrandYan [-\]: Which is what I meant by redefining strategy here...
sum [5d\]: y
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